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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Amalfitan Rangpur?
« on: July 31, 2024, 09:42:09 AM »
How do your seedlings and the original fruit compare to this Amalfi Citron from Italy ?
https://agrumilenzi.it/en/negozio/citrusen/citrons/amalfi-citron-citrus-medica/

The leaves of your seedlings look closer to this than Citron leaves ??

Also, the seed in the fruit you uploaded don't really look like Citron seed to me. They seem rather big, more like Sour Orange seed ?

Thinking that the Amalfi Citron is possibly a Citron / Sour Orange hybrid ?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Amalfitan Rangpur?
« on: July 26, 2024, 04:52:35 PM »
I am wondering if there are other hybrids in there too ? Pic 1 has a small leaf type in the bottom rh corner ? I am not seeing exact Citron seedlings in the pics, a lot look slightly different. How do they compare to this ?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Amalfitan Rangpur?
« on: July 25, 2024, 06:57:55 PM »
The seedlings look pretty good. The odd one looks pretty interesting. Also looks bit lime like to me. It could depend on if the Amalfi Citron is a 'pure Citron' or a Hybrid. It is possible to get unusual seedlings from genetic re shuffles, without X pollination. ( recombination ). Citrons do not normally produce foliage variants, but I did get slight fruit shape + size variants from seedlings. Lemons seedlings are often slight foliage variants. Can't quite see, but does the odd seedling have red growth tips like other Citrons. ?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: fungi and bacteria potting soil
« on: April 05, 2024, 09:06:08 PM »
That is not always great in pots. The microbes will consume the nutrients and water. Sometimes they can form a mat on the surface and cause water repellence. They may start to break down the wood waste and organic components in the pot mix causing shrinkage. You need beneficial microbes in pot mix, but not to dominate it. You may need to inspect the surface of pots for matting.

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Australian Sunrise. Yes it has edible peel. It does not match Fortunella Kumquats pulp wise. I would not say it is bad, but it is not up to the former hype. Big fruit are OK. Seems 100% true from seed.

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Citrus General Discussion / Citrus in art exhibition
« on: February 21, 2024, 02:38:05 PM »
This came up on my FB feed, I thought it was impressive.

A rare opportunity to see the work of this significant member of the Madrid Realists, Isabella Qunitanilla. Featuring 100 works spanning the artist’s entire career and including her most important paintings and drawings, I'll be travelling to see this one and look forward to sharing more images with you. 'Isabel Quintanilla's Intimate Realism'
Thyssen-Bornemisza National Museum, Madrid. 27 February to 2 June 2024. Pictured: 'Garden' 1966.
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=894385026022226&set=a.518347880292611

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Canola oil for pests experience?
« on: October 22, 2023, 03:23:08 PM »
I wen't down the non hazardous / non toxic route for plant pest control. Still noticed minor effects from many " natural " control agents, biological control agents. If you have safety equipment, I would be using it. If a spray tank line nozzle gets blocked or pops off, you can get drenched or hit in the face. It is probably pretty safe, but you don't need canola and pyrethrum in your eye or up your nose. Yes it probably takes longer to suit up than spray, but might be worth the hassle. On of my friends who worked long term in a fried food shop developed a lung disorder from the oil vapour, not uncommon it seems. You won't get that from occasionally spraying, but your being exposed to tiny atomised droplets, which is different to what the rats were tested on. I would go safety where possible.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Planting seeds of Citrus Bergamia
« on: September 22, 2023, 03:41:55 AM »
The Bergamias I have seen are pretty close to an Earl Grey Tea Bag in scent.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Planting seeds of Citrus Bergamia
« on: September 21, 2023, 07:29:54 AM »
The scent of Bergamia is pretty distinct. If yours match that scent, it is going to be very similar. If the scent is only somewhat the same ( weaker ), that is another clue.
If your seedlings are either  identical, or quite different that will tell your more.
You could have variable seedlings from self pollination, or from crossing to another Citrus.
Since Bergamia are mainly grown as ornamentals or for perfumery, not edible fruit, you could get something interesting.

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On the topic of Terra Preta, what did you find out about the method it was originally made ? Bio Char is interesting, but not the same thing ??

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Syzygium glenum from the Daintree FNQ, not edible but very rare.....on 17 trees ever found in the wild.rare.....
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=639499711622660&set=a.619248743647757

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https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=636115795294385&set=a.440980541474579
Variegated Fig (Ficus variegata). The figs change from green to red as they mature and feed many species of birds and bats.
The figs grow on or close to the tree trunk, a feature termed cauliflory.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Thief Caught
« on: September 10, 2023, 09:13:01 AM »
There is a big leap from grabbing a few fruit to eat or grow seed, to ripping off trees full of fruit to sell.
Most often I will ask first, and rarely get knocked back. If a tree looks neglected or fruit falling unpicked, I may not ask first.
I must admit to collecting a fair few seed in this way, so find it hard to get too mad when people do the same to me.


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Citrus maxima has a lot of cultivars, from SE Asia as far south as Indonesia and PNG to Japan an China. I saw them growing in Tokyo, which has humid summers and cold winters. You might want to choose cultivars from similar locations. That certainly works in reverse, as Tropical varieties can have fairly sour fruit in temperate areas, but other varieties taste fine there.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Thief Caught
« on: September 09, 2023, 06:36:23 PM »
“He" that is without sin among you, let him cast the first stone fruit''

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Dwarf Avocados usually have shorter internodes, ie spaces between the buds. This causes dwarfing as the foliage is more compact.
Some varieties are smaller growing trees, but not dwarfing as above.
There are a few of these varieties.
Rootstock may also be another factor.
Not sure it has been researched, but a dwarf on a less vigorous rootstock variety may be more compact than the same on a very vigorous rootstock.
Gem Linda and Wurtz are compact types.

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Sorry I missed that from your earlier post.
I enjoyed racemosa cluster fig, faint strawberry flavour, like a strawberry cookie. I thought NSW sandpaper figs are nice. If I remember, Deciduous Fig was ok, Moreton Bay was ok, but a few are enough. Not sure any come near Ficus carica in flavour.

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Have you tried investigating the accession number. Ficus 52406 might have other records, like introduction information.

I have tried quite a few Australian Rainforest Figs, this doesn't really ring a bell.
If it was that good, it might be better known.

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"A large clean tree with fruit of fine delicate sweet flavor and size of a black Smyrna fig, only more rounded and dark crimson when ripe."

Interesting that this doesn't clearly ring bells.
Cluster Fig sounds pretty close by size and colour. Flavour is OK too.
Sandpaper Fig seem closer to domestic figs, but I have never seen red fruit, and they are smaller fruited than carica.
Going by the above description, you could eliminate a good 35 to 40 of the 45 Australian Ficus.
That leaves the most likely candidates for you to experiment with.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Foreign mango familiarity
« on: August 25, 2023, 07:56:23 PM »
Just tried a tray of Chaunsa here in Australia. Very nice, slight Durian note. Also coconut. I ate too many Mangoes free off the trees on my first days in Cairns, so most varieties are not top of my list, but these were really nice.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Calamansi / Calamondin as rootstock
« on: August 21, 2023, 05:01:25 AM »
I believe it is used in the Phillipines as a rootstock, along with Calamandarin. Maybe try researching that. From what I recall, it was used as rootstock for Pummelo.
It should be OK for related things, like Fortunella and Mandarin, maybe Limes ?

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Apart from crossing for hybrids, have you considered grafting ?? Hardy rootstocks could increase the productivity of existing Tomato cultivars.

Another possibility is graft chimeras, this has been done for Tomato X S.nigrum.  Budding is done so that a combination shoot grows out, creating a hybrid.

nullzero, what is the source of your Solanum opacum ?? It grows wild around here in Australia, probably unnoticed as most people would think it is introduced S.nigrum.

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Greensand is a rock dust source of Potassium, basically very fine granite dust. You can get it from the places that make cemetery headstones by cutting granite.
Potassium citrate is another source I have seen. Potassium is common in rock minerals, so there should be other sources.

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