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East Kalimantan - Balikpapan Experience or advice?
« on: January 24, 2023, 09:06:41 PM »
Will be flying in to East Kalimantan - Balikpapan in the future and would like to ask if there's anyone with advice for finding Durian or other rare fruit around the area or the greater part of East Kalimantan.
Or areas that are one- two days away by buss.

I know All the fruit found Durio grandiflorus there.
East Kalimantan - Balikpapan Experience or advice?
It seams like All the fruit is in kalimantan now, might try to contact him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoP1tG23-HA
Pontianak

It seams possible to take ferry from Tarakan to Sabah but would have to cross the Border to Malaysia then.

Or would it be good to spend most time in N Kalimantan, Central Kalimantan, S or West Kalimantan?
It depends on the season but also would be good to know botanical gardens or good markets.
https://www.worldatlas.com/islands/borneo.html

I know there is a botanical garden in Balikpapan.


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Re: East Kalimantan - Balikpapan Experience or advice?
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2023, 09:34:58 PM »
you should go see if lonely planet has their thorn tree forum still up and running. if they do, you can select by country and start a thread there with all your questions.  in addition to other travelers being active on that forum, there are many local guides/translators etc that hang out on that site.  you can possibly get good references for translator guides to help you search.  OR you contact lindsay gasik. she does some custom trip itinerary type stuff if you don't want to go on her tours. 

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Re: East Kalimantan - Balikpapan Experience or advice?
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2023, 02:31:35 AM »
Lindsay has lots of contacts and does consultations.

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Re: East Kalimantan - Balikpapan Experience or advice?
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2023, 06:05:33 PM »
Rather not deal with Lindsey. But thanks anyway and someone else might find it useful.

Was mainly asking for advice from forum members as there is so much knowledgeable people here.
If the info is put in the public then new members can see the advice for free so that they will be able to plan their Kalimantan trips better. Without costly tour guides or consultations.

Instagram is really good for knowing when the Durian season is 'on' in different areas because there is usually durian sales post there from Indonesian growers but I am not really looking for Zibethinus, trying to find individual trees of Durio sp. preferably in the bush as the seed will less likely be a zibethinus hybrid.

Thanks for the Lonely planet forum advice but most of the time those forums are dead.
"The world of travel is changing. Following the global upheaval caused by the COVID-19 plandemic, we decided to put our beloved forum, Thorn Tree, into "read-only" mode, "
https://www.lonelyplanet.com/landing/lonely-planet-community

January does not seam to be a good month for Durio in Kalimantan, only some high altitude areas where the season is different due to the climate high up there. According to All the fruits videos.

To find local markets search "pasar" + "name of local area/town", Pasar is market.
https://rajatransit.com/5-pasar-tradisional-atau-pasar-basah-di-balikpapan/
Doing this worked really well for Bali last time we here there.
Going really early or at night is advisable.
Remember there are "wet" and "dry" markets and fruit is found at wet markets.
Most markets are hybrids.

Botanical gardens:

Balikpapan botanical garden east kalimantan
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g317100-d7917999-Reviews-Balikpapan_Botanical_Garden-Balikpapan_East_Kalimantan_Kalimantan.html

samarinda botanical garden east kalimantan
https://www.alltrails.com/trail/indonesia/east-kalimantan/kebun-raya-unmul-samarinda

Binusan botanial garden north kalimantan
https://www.alltrails.com/trail/indonesia/north-kalimantan/kebun-raya-binusan

Banua Botanical Garden Banjarbaru South Kalimantan
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/357957088_Ethnobotany_studies_of_Clusiaceae_family_plants_at_Banua_Botanical_Garden_Banjarbaru_South_Kalimantan_Indonesia

Sambas Botanical Garden West Kalimantan
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Sudarmono-Sudarmono/publication/325549417_Biodiversity_of_Medicinal_Plants_at_Sambas_Botanical_Garden_West_Kalimantan_Indonesia/links/5b4d6992a6fdcc8dae246e75/Biodiversity-of-Medicinal-Plants-at-Sambas-Botanical-Garden-West-Kalimantan-Indonesia.pdf?origin=publication_detail
There's a Durio testudinarium at this botanical garden.

Purwodadi bitanical garden java
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purwodadi_Botanical_Garden

AG universities and research stations usually have some good gardens around
List of Indonesian AG universities:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indonesian_agricultural_universities_and_colleges

Bali and Nusa Tenggara
Bali
Udayana University[1]
East Nusa Tenggara
Artha Wacana Christian University, Kupang
Kupang State Agricultural Polytechnique, Kupang[1]
Nusa Nipa University, Maumere, Flores[2]
West Nusa Tenggara
Muhammadiyah University, Mataram
University of Mataram, Mataram
Java
Banten
Indonesian College of Technology, Tangerang[3]
Jakarta Islamic State University, Ciputat, South Tangerang
Sultan Ageng Tirtayasa University, Serang, Banten
Central Java
Baruna Fishery Academy, Slawi[4]
Diponegoro University, Semarang[1]
Jenderal Soedirman University, Purwokerto[1]
Satya Wacana Christian University, Salatiga
Sebelas Maret University, Surakarta[1]
Slamet Riyadi University, Surakarta[5]
Soegijapranata Catholic University, Semarang
Widya Dharma University, Klaten[6]
East Java
Brawijaya University, Malang[1]
Cipta Wacana Christian University, Malang[7]
Jember State Polytechnique, Jember[8]
Jember University, Jember[1][9]
Malang College of Agriculture, Malang[10]
Muhammadiyah University, Malang
PGRI University, Banyuwangi[11]
Tribhuwana Tungga Dewi University, Malang[12]
Trunojoyo University, Bangkalan, Madura
Widya Gama University, Malang[13]
Wijaya Kusuma University, Surabaya[14]
Yudharta University, Pasuruan[15]
Jakarta
Mercu Buana University
West Java
Bogor Agricultural University, Bogor[1]
Djuanda University, Bogor[16]
Nusantara Islamic University, Bandung[17]
Padjadjaran University, Bandung[1]
Polytechnique of Agroindustry, Subang[18]
Winaya Mukti University, Sumedang[19]
Yogyakarta
See also: List of universities in Yogyakarta
Estate Education College, Yogyakarta[20]
Gadjah Mada University, Yogyakarta[1]
Institute for Plantation Agriculture (INSTIPER), Yogyakarta[21]
Janabadra University, Yogyakarta[22]
National Development University "Veteran", Yogyakarta[23]
Semarang University, Yogyakarta[24]
Yogyakarta Institute of Agriculture (INTAN), Yogyakarta[25]

Kalimantan
Central Kalimantan
University of Palangka Raya, Palangkaraya
Christian University of Palangka Raya, Palangkaraya
East Kalimantan
East Kutai School of Agriculture, East Kutai Regency[26]
Mulawarman University, Samarinda
Samarinda State Agricultural Polytechnique, Samarinda[1]
South Kalimantan
Lambung Mangkurat University, Banjarbaru
Syekh Salman Al-Farisi Islamic Polytechnique, Tapin Regency[27]
Tanah Laut Polytechnique, Pelaihari, Tanah Laut Regency[28]
West Kalimantan
Agribusiness Management Academy, Sanggau[29]
Bumi Sebalo Agribusiness Academy, Bengkayang[30]
Tanjungpura University, Pontianak[1]
Tonggak Ekuator Polytechnique, Pontianak[31]
Mollucas
Maluku
University of Pattimura, Ambon
North Maluku
Agricultural Faculty Khairun University, Ternate
Papua
Papua
Agricultural Polytechnique of Yasanto, Merauke[32]
Cenderawasih University, Jayapura
Musamus University, Merauke[33]
Santo Thomas Aquinas Agricultural College, Jayapura[34]
West Papua
State University of Papua, Manokwari
Sulawesi

Sulawesi, 1977
Central Sulawesi
Alkhairaat University, Palu
College of Fishery and Marine, Palu
Polytechnique of Palu, Palu
Tadulako University, Palu
Gorontalo
Ichsan University of Gorontalo, Gorontalo
Polytechnique of Gorontalo, Gorontalo
University of Gorontalo, Gorontalo
State University of Gorontalo, Gorontalo
North Sulawesi
De La Salle Catholic University, Manado
Indonesian Christian University, Tomohon
North Sulawesi Technological University, Manado
Nusantara University, Manado
Sam Ratulangi University, Manado[1]
Sariputra Buddhist University, Tomohon
South East Sulawesi
Haluoleo University, Kendari
Kendari University, Kendari
South Sulawesi
Cokroaminoto University, Makassar
East Indonesia University, Makassar
Hasanudin University, Makassar[1]
Pancasakti University, Makassar
West Sulawesi
University of West Sulawesi, Mamasa
Sumatra
Aceh
Syiah Kuala University, Banda Aceh[1]
Teuku Umar University, Meulaboh
University of Serambi Mekah
Venezuela Polytechnique, Aceh Besar
Bengkulu
Bengkulu University, Bengkulu
Dehasen University, Bengkulu
Jambi
Jambi University, Jambi City
Lampung
Lampung State Agricultural Polytechnique[1]
Lampung State Polytechnique
Lampung University[1]
North Sumatra
Agricultural Academy, Gunung Sitoli
Islamic University of North Sumatra, Medan
Muhammadiyah University, Medan
Nommensen HPBP University, Medan
Preston University, Medan
Quality University, Medan
Santo Thomas University, Medan
Simalungun University, Pematangsiantar
Tugu 405 Polytechnique, Medan
University of North Sumatra, Medan[1]
Riau
Indragiri Islamic University, Tembilahan
Pasir Pangaraian University
Riau University, Pekanbaru
South Sumatra
Muhammadiyah University, Palembang
Sriwijaya University, Palembang[1]
University of Musi Rawas, Lubuklinggau
West Sumatra
Agricultural Development Academy of Lubung Alung, Pariaman
Andalas University, Padang[1]
Ekasakti University, Padang
Payakumbuh State Agricultural Polytechnique, Payakumbuh[1]
Science and Technology College of Padang, Padang


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_Agency_for_Agricultural_Research_and_Development

It seams most of the research in Indo have gone into BRIN:
https://indonesiaatmelbourne.unimelb.edu.au/brin-and-the-bureaucratisation-of-knowledge-in-indonesia/
"Scientific knowledge may be universal but the organisation of knowledge is always political."
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Re: East Kalimantan - Balikpapan Experience or advice?
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2023, 08:17:07 PM »
If anyting start downriver and work your way up. 

I'd look at Instagram tags and see if that pulls up any pictures and maybe connect with the owners and figure out when and where they acquired and go from there?  Too bad the thorntree was taken down, woudl've been good to find translators there. 

Or DM Maryoto and Beni?  On IG find "Duriantraveler" 

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Re: East Kalimantan - Balikpapan Experience or advice?
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2023, 09:48:14 PM »
You are only going based off all the fruits videos this season? It wasnít a good year for durian this season apparently. Look at his previous videos where heís eating kutenjensis and hybrids. December and January usually are the main seasons on Borneo, starting November in Sabah. There are sometimes smaller seasons in the middle of the year or other times. Based off videos Iíve seen of fruits in Kalimantan, there may be a better variety of jungle fruits compared to the Malaysian side as I never even came across willughbeia species on the Malaysian side, although I know they exist in some of the jungles. Iím not that adventurous. stick to roadside stands and markets. On the Malaysian side, you will find different species of durio too. Itís worth going to Sarawak to experience eating dabai alone.
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Re: East Kalimantan - Balikpapan Experience or advice?
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2023, 05:54:00 PM »
Yes only based on that. Thanks for adding more info about the Durian season in Kalimantan.

"December and January usually are the main seasons on Borneo".

He has so many videos and travels to a lot of different places and I think recently he renamed a bunch of them because some people don't like the name "Borneo" so it's made it harder to search his videos. Also some videos where deleted.

These two have some bearing.




The one from John Glue from Rare Fruit Australia archives are accurate IMO since Always when I have been to Thailand the season have been around May- July and in Bali it's been great in Feb.
And it states Dec-Jan for Kalimantan which coincides with the info given by Ben.

So now it's quite easy to plan a road trip through Kalimantan.
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Re: East Kalimantan - Balikpapan Experience or advice?
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2023, 07:18:58 PM »
Ya that chart looks familiar. This is another good resource Iíve used- https://www.yearofthedurian.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/A-Travelers-Guide-to-Durian-Season-2016.pdf

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Re: East Kalimantan - Balikpapan Experience or advice?
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2023, 06:21:00 PM »
That's a good source too. They did well on putting that together.

But FNQ Peak durian season is usually in February not march, her and Rob judged it to much on the Tully area season and not Mossman, Cape trip or Cooktown season. This year there where good Cooktown durians in Nov, so Dec or Jan is more like peak season there.
And around Cape trip it's Peak Feb.

There's also Julatten at 500m with peak season months later with last durian falling usually in June. In Julatten there is a heavy biannual bearing pattern.
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