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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Blackberry (Rubus sp)
« on: December 30, 2019, 08:13:03 PM »
Thry will throw out root suckers everywhere and easily take over your yard.  Careful where you put blackberries if you dont have a lot of space.

3 ft spacing is fine, just realize that they sre very aggressive and will fill in and spread.  Especially the thorny upright ones.  They are the most agressive and invasive type.

Agreed! In my yard, started producing in 2nd season, grew wildly and yes, suckers abound; after harvesting the 3rd season, I pulled them all off...: too much maintenance and very thorny. (I heard those thorn less variety is not a good producer).

Tropical Fruit Discussion / First ever Carambola
« on: December 10, 2019, 07:05:39 PM »
I just want to share my excitement of seeing my Kari carambola tree produces 4 fruits
for the first time ever. Bought as a 3 ft tiny stick in April 2017, in the ground since May 2018:

The tree:

Looking forward for the taste test, soon!

Thanks again for the replies guys, I decided to cut off half of the panicles, leaving the other half alone; let see what's going to happen with them this coming Spring...

My 4 years old Mahachanok scion is blooming now on its few branches, I thought it's rather early.
Should I leave them alone, or cut them off? Sorry if this has already been discussed on this thread, thanks!

Thanks Behl, I noticed that too, but Drip depot’s free shipping minimum is $49 compared to $149 at Sprinkler Warehouse, as a small backyard grower the Drip depot serves me better...

This is one has the adjuster built in.  Check out all the antelco products, they make nice stuff.

I couldn't find this adjustable kind myself, there is another choice from different brand, but I also prefer Antelco's better, just ordered a bunch, thanks for sharing the link, Brad!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Santa Anas
« on: October 25, 2019, 04:20:54 PM »
Sorry to see what happened to your plants around the house. In my area where I live in the flat land, the wind blows "only" about 20 -40 Mph; so practically no damage suffered, but I guess since you are on a hill, the wind is stronger.

 I try to make a habit of checking the wind and night temperature  in the Fall and Winter here in SoCal, but sometimes still forget and caught me by surprise...
Hope no serious damage in your orchard, Brad!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / No seed mango husk
« on: October 14, 2019, 11:40:20 PM »
Consumed 2 mangos the last couple days, besides their excellent taste,
was surprised to see that their husks contain no seed in them.
I had no seed papaya before, but first time on mango for me:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this a "NDM" mango?
« on: September 17, 2019, 11:33:33 PM »
Wow, that is plenty of info about "Peggy" mango, right here at this forum; interestingly I couldn't find any when I Googled it earlier.
Thanks a lot Oolie!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this a "NDM" mango?
« on: September 17, 2019, 10:27:31 PM »
If it were not for the leaves and the smell, yes it could possibly pass as a White Sapote too...! :D
Oolie, can't find info on "Peggy"; did you probably meant "Betty", as in Ugly Betty?
Yes, I'll describe how does it taste in a few weeks.

By the way, I bought that grafted tree labelled as "NDM" from a guy named "Charlie" of Champa Nursery in El Monte, CA; which few people here recommend, but I guess I got one that was incorrectly labelled, all is not loss however, since it looks like I got a decent looking fruit...
Thanks for your replies, guys!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Is this a "NDM" mango?
« on: September 17, 2019, 02:59:24 AM »
The 4yrs old budwood I obtained from my own "NamDocMai" mango is now holding a single fruit on a Manila rootstock for the first time. (While the original grafted NDM tree I bought in Sept. 2014 did not produce any fruit yet).
But from the looks of it, I am doubtful if it is an NDM if I compare it to other NDM mango photos elsewhere:

Hope someone(s) can help me guesstimate of what kind of mango do I have instead?


I would recommend an apricot like tropic gold or a pluot instead of CnC, any other fruit really.

Thanks for your reply Oolie, I keep this in mind!

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Latest Video From Dan Wiley The Fruitmentor
« on: September 11, 2019, 08:01:14 PM »
Thanks Millet for sharing a useful and important info.
Hoping to continue reading your valuable opinions...

CnC= Cot-n-Candy; yeah, I 've heard this before, but couldn't recall it!
This one stone fruit tree that I don't have, and considering to get one
this Winter; wondering of why did you top it Oolie?

I am looking to do the same thing to the CnC I just lopped.

FG is still under patent, but I would not be opposed to approach grafting, but that would mean seeking out an already grafted one which is far more difficult than getting the budwood of an off-patent but similarly appreciable variety.

I've already decided some of the tree will be an apricot. Maybe there are some similar low-chill pluots that members of this forum could recommend.

Yes Oolie, thanks for the added info, I was thinking maybe the OP needs to go get to purchase the tree instead, thus providing multiple potential scions, since OP likely needs to do multiple grafting on the multiple sprouts that would normally come out from a topped tree. The concern that we have in SoCal is the chill requirement of the FG; Dave Wilson site says it needs 500-600 hours, but I see OP said this is for Santa Barbara region, which is further North than LA/San Diego. My tree is still young, in fact it fruits the first time this season even in my less than the chill requirement specified above, so Santa Barbara's location should be an advantage in this department.

Just for and added note, I even regard the FG flavor to be even better than the rave reviews of SpiceZee nectaplum: a lot juicier, sweeter and as the name implied "imploding" flavor like a grenade, as one magazine described it...
(I didn't bother typing more earlier since it was awkward to do so on a tiny smartphone screen...). By the way, I still can't figure out what CnC stands for, it shows I am still a newbie... ;D

Correction: Double check the chill hrs. of FG: "300-400 hours below 45°F"  Samu 09/11/19

I highly recommend “Flavor grenade” pluot; my best tasting stone fruits (4) that I grow...

Looks like you are on your way to becoming tropical fruit tree growers, congratulations!
Glancing at your photo, seems like you got plenty of open space available and having the favorable climate where you live, a great combinations to growing more fruit trees!
Wish you more successes in the future!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Soursop fruiting in living room.
« on: August 11, 2019, 03:02:59 PM »
This encourages me not to give up trying to fruit Soursop in SoCal...
Thanks Radoslav!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: July 31, 2019, 04:24:54 PM »
Your young avocado trees look so healthy.
I also notice that you use adjustable mini sprayers to irrigate them. That's
what I use on some of my trees, besides using drip lines as well.
I am thinking of yanking my very slow growing Holiday (bought in pot)
with a direct seed in the ground planting; learnt it from Simon's thread.
Thanks for sharing those pictures, Brad!

I got to thinking maybe I should do something with my Golden Nugget tree too?!

They were planted almost 4 yrs ago, side by side with a Kishu Mandarin at about the same 5G size; the Kishu has been a prolific producers the last 2 years; but none from the Golden Nugget; also the Kishu tree size overwhelmed the nugget by about 5:1 easy!
So, I am thinking maybe take out the Nugget, and give all the space to Kishu.

Note: The Kishu was from local Durling Nursery while the Nugget was a tree given to me from my sister in San Jose, Ca; maybe it doesn't adapt well with our SoCal climate; just wondering if that maybe the reason for it's retarded growth...

Just wanted to update this old thread; while googling around, I found someone who stated living in Orange County zone 10a-10b (SoCal) was able to grow and fruited to maturity of Soursop tree she grew from seed.

She (user name "Diana ---") also included some photos of the fruit(s) while it was still hanging and when she cut it open, her first entry was dated June 30 2017, in case you want to jump to it.  Here's the website where I found it:

So, there is one proof that I can find, hope this will give encouragement to others and myself. So, I intend to plant the 2 seedlings that I have into the ground...soon!

Another creative way of grafting;
I would like to try this method, thanks for sharing, Kumin!

That fruit looks like still hard to touch, so it’s crunchy. If you can wait for snother week or two, they become softer, sweeter and bigger at a fast rate. Sorry tor spelling error, hard to correct on iphone...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Video tour
« on: June 24, 2019, 07:49:07 PM »
Wow Brad, that’s a dream SoCal fruit gardener’s back yard! Thanks for sharing, wish I have just a portion of your lot size to play with...erm, to work with... ;)

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