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Baccaurea angulata.  The entire fruit has six sides, but not the actual flesh.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Moisture inside top of mango graft
« on: April 03, 2025, 08:16:53 PM »
I've had a ton of grafts fail because of moisture inside the wrap.

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I had two do the same thing here in Thailand, but now wonder if sun burn on the trunk the cause?  I did not have any symptoms like Fitfarmer.  Mine also flushed out beautifully and I had several successful grafts in progress.

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Everything looks great.  Excellent job on all the grafting.

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Marang and kwai muk...can't see how you wouldn't enjoy these.  Cempedek on the other hand....I think is an acquired taste.

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Brian...golden nugget is what I fruited in my greenhouse.  Flavor was outstanding, but the soft texture was off-putting.  However...to be fair...I was not expecting the soft texture so was not prepared for it.  I don't think my wife was either.  Now after having soft fruits like this such as marang, keledang, and such, maybe it would be a better experience?  It is certainly a difference eating experience when compared to the drier, crispier fleshed varieties.  Since you are ready for the texture, I believe you will have a better go at it than I first did. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plant Shipping Nightmares
« on: March 14, 2025, 06:18:55 PM »
USPS should limit their options to only sending postcards.  I don't have the time to spend typing up all of the blunders I've had to endure from those fools.  Yeah...cheapest alternative, but it's a gamble.

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There are little "nurseries" here and there along the southern route and on west end is Jardines Enadas.  Brian is correct about the Ag inspections...and they definitely take it serious.  The best way is to just Priority mail the trees back yourself.  Bringing something from Florida shouldn't be an issue.

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I agree with Kalopa Guy.  The cuttings need to be as fresh as can be and preferably cut, wrapped, and mailed on the same day.  I believe putting the wrapped cuttings in a ziplok will help keep moisture levels up.  Does anyone have any opinions on whether adding a damp paper towel in the ziplok would be a benefit or not?  I think it might, but not sure very hot climates.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse artocarpus updates
« on: March 10, 2025, 09:11:50 PM »
Of all the artocarpus species I brought back from Borneo, mutabilis and brevipedunculatus have had the least amount of germination...and couldn't get fresher than this.  So be very patient with them.  They may very well take much longer to germinate.  Good luck and hope they all germinate.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Keledang seed pictures? Not fruit
« on: March 04, 2025, 08:49:46 PM »
Keep them under a humidity dome and careful not to over water.  If fresh, should germinate very quick.  Seeds of many of these look very similar.

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Brian...it's not that the maprangs were bad.  They were good.  I just don't believe they lived up to all of the hype and expectation I had.  I don't consider them any better than a decent mango, and certainly nowhere near top-tier.

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Caimito and abiu...just not for me.  Maprangs...waited so long to try them and hyped up so much only to find them just okay fruits...good, but nothing to get worked up over.  Garcinia prainiana was probably my biggest disappointment.  While extremely tasty, the latex in the flesh itself shot all hopes and dreams of this fruit for me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting tool good or bad?!
« on: February 26, 2025, 06:00:29 AM »
The only time I've seen anything positive about this tool was from someone trying to sell them.  Invest in a good grafting knife.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse artocarpus updates
« on: February 23, 2025, 07:15:37 PM »
I certainly hope they are not all male, but if first flowering, might prepare yourself for them being all male.  There are so many flowers though.  One would think a female or two would show up to the party!  Here's hoping!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yay! Got a peanut butter fruit tree!
« on: February 20, 2025, 05:56:26 AM »
Nice looking trees and the fruit is not bad.  Just let them get real red and soft.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Borneo fruit hunting - with pics
« on: February 15, 2025, 05:20:12 PM »
Fliptop...believe me...stomach issues were definitely on my mind.  We were warned NOT to drink the water...not even get it in our mouths.  So it was bottled water for brushing teeth and such.  Food you just had to be aware of.  One evening we were searching for a new place to eat and Sinyo stopped at this buffet stand.  Had quite the selection.  It was also all cold.  Hard to say how long it has been sitting out there, but I was taking no chances on it and risking food poisoning.  Peter ate it and had no issues.  I wasn't taking the chance and would rather go hungry.  Of course...you have to check any food stand for this...just never know.  Other than that, I don't think it was a huge concern.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Borneo fruit hunting - with pics
« on: February 15, 2025, 06:21:47 AM »
When deep in the forest, mosquitoes were massing around Peter but he seemed to never get bitten!  I sprayed down with Deet and that kept them at bay...they did continue to find holes in my defense.  I believe Yuki was having a tough time with them.  The hotel rooms were more issues for me than the forests.

The screen mesh on the vents in the hotel rooms were large enough for any mosquito in the country to easily fit thru.  Second floor didn't seem to have them as bad as the first floor.  My first, first floor room must have been located near a breeding farm.  I could not keep up with the number I had in the room.  I must have killed two dozen and yet they continued to appear.  Sinyo blocked off the vent and that helped.  About the time I had the mosquitoes under control, the toilet stopped working.  So I had to move a 3rd time...just two doors down.  I immediately taped off the vent, but I think they were coming in from the floor drain as well, just not as concentrated...so not as bad as previous room, but they kept me on my toes! 

Every now and then we would see a large ant...about an inch long.  I asked Sinyo about them and he just said..."yeah, they hurt".  Aside from a good sized, but very dead, cobra in the road, we didn't see any other snakes.  I did see a large hornet or two and stayed way the hell away from that.  I don't think it was the giant Asian hornet.  As far as critters go, that was about it.  We did a lot of walking around the forest looking for fruit and seeds moving plants and crap on the forest floor out of the way.  Only now and then did we remind each other by saying "hope there's no cobras around".  That was when you were like "Oh shit!  Forgot about that!". 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Borneo fruit hunting - with pics
« on: February 13, 2025, 08:06:09 PM »
Getting seeds from Sinyo now is best since they are at their freshest and can get you a phyto if you choose.  He and his crew cleaned seeds each night going thru quite a rigorous procedure to not only clean, but add anti-fungals to them.  He has to do this cause it will allow him to store seeds for several months.  Peter and I did not have to go thru all of that since we were planting as soon as we got home.  We did opt to remove the flesh since that would have starting stinking.  Adam Shafron uses vermiculite in a bag and runs that thru a wash cycle.  I just used an old t-shirt with the ash and rubbed them clean.  In fact, the ones I left covered in the ash to clean the next day actually cleaned up a lot easier and faster...chemical from creating the ash broke down the flesh.  Luckily all of the artocarpus seeds popped right out of the flesh without any scrubbing necessary.  The mixture would have been nice for cleaning the durian seeds, but I had already cleaned those prior to receiving the ash.

Brian...just in case I confused anyone...the candy corn reference was just about the limpato's shape reminding me of giant candy corn.  Not the taste.  The taste difficult to describe.  It is sweet, bright, a little tangy.  A true delight.  For me...getting any of these artocarpus and willughbeia species to get past that stage has been a challenge as well.  I did manage to get a few keledang big enough to plant out, but that was it.  A big fat zero for the willughbeias.  I'm hoping some of the seedlings I pulled and brought back survive as well as the seeds...most of which were already in the process of germinating.

Speaking of germinating.  Here are my observations of what I found in the forest looking for seeds.  It was hot and the humidity was off the charts.  Everything was damp or just plain wet.  Borneo seems to get more rain or at least the frequency of showers whereas my area in Thailand is a desert bunghole.  So...chokingly high humidity and wet.  Lots of leaf and rotting fruit and tree litter on the ground.  And completely shaded over.  Seeds of any kind of nearby fruit littered the ground and all of them germinating where they landed...most not even covered by anything at all...loosely sparcely at best.  I tried to recreate this as best I could here.  What is driving me crazy is how can it be so wet in the forest and do just fine, and when I have done that here, the seedlings would dampen off and die.  I'm missing something.  Obviously the forest soil is full of microbes and mycorrhizal fungi...which I have added to the coco choir when mixing.  Maybe this will help.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Borneo fruit hunting - with pics
« on: February 13, 2025, 03:20:20 AM »
Peter and I met up in Jakarta and flew together to Central Kalimanton(Muara Teweh).  Eddie has been with Sinyo since the last part of December and is not going back home until the end of March.  Hardcore.  I've know people who can eat a lot of durian, but I am now convinced there is nobody who can gobble it up like this guy!  It was a great group of guys and having Peter and Eddie along sure made it easier on me.  Not only are they super knowledgeable, but it was great to be able to speak and hear so much English...if you can call Eddie's English!  LOL!

I had five days of fruit hunting.  The first three were incredible and these three alone made the entire trip worth every bit.  The last two days was more desperation and hoping to pull a rabbit out of their hats, but it was a miss with many fruits due to bad timing.  But no big deal.  I won't go into hotel issues here.  The city was much bigger and nicer than my believed we would find.  The people from the city to the ones in the far rural areas were all incredibly nice and welcoming.  Never once did I feel any fear of the area.  Most folks wanted pictures with us and/or waving and smiling.

Takeaways/conclusions:  First off...the artocarpus fruits are amazing.  If you are planning for a future trip, if possible, wait until the last minute to book your flights.  This will give you the best timing to hit as many fruits in season as possible.  Sinyo will send you a list of trees/fruit in each area and the general time frame.  Just keep in mind that the timing can shift either way.  Patience.  Their way of life is uncomplicated by timing restraints.  However, you must insist that the day's tour start early at a given time.  Be firm.  Afterall, you are the one paying for the service.  So early starts and late endings.  Try to keep everyone on track or things can get derailed for a time.  Also insist that there is no smoking in the vehicle.  Probably every male over the age of 14 smokes...non-stop...everywhere.  Sinyo is very very good at finding trees and fruit in these areas.  He has spent lots of time with the locals searching them out.  You could drive or even walk by an area and not have a hint that the trees were nearby.  Many are single trees in a family's yard.  Some are a bit more off the grid.  The first three days of fruit crossed many off of my bucket list.  My pitiful descriptions fall far short of how good some of these really were.   

The group from left to right:  Yuki Kanie from Japan.  Peter Kring from Costa Rica.  Eddie Ahahametoglu from Melbourne, Australia.  Sinyo...local and our guide.  Iplik...local and our driver.  Me.


The boys already had a car full of durio dulcis


Durio dulcis.  Good durian.  A creamy, kind of menthol-like flavor.


Walking the streets.  Baccaurea edulis.  This was excellent.  Flesh still clung to the seed, but not as bad as most others.


A wild nephelium.  Very tasty, but flesh really clung hard to seed.  And tiny.


Durio kutejensis.  Probably the most grown and most sold on streets and elsewhere.  They really love it.  These were not good.  Picked too soon.  We had better later in the week.  Lindsay
remarked that tree-dropped kutejensis was really good.  The riper they were, the better tasting for sure.


Another kutejensis.  Definitely cool looking.  Has the consistency of peanut butter.


Rambutan


Artocarpus lanceifolius (keledang).


Keledang fruit.  Sinyo was 20+ feet up in the tree getting fruit.  Can't stress enough just how good this fruit is.  Very sweet with a little apricot/mandarin orange, hint of acidity.  Almost like the drink mix Tang.  This sky rocketed to a top fruit.  Couldn't get enough of it.





Eddie and Peter checking out some roadside durian.




Artocarpus brevipedunculatus (bondon).  More climbing for Sinyo.  Very similar to keledang in all respects...much smaller.  Flavor may have been even more pronounced.  Crazy good.  Wasn't too many from the tree. 






The family who owned the tree wanted a pic with us.


Mangifera pajang. Mango relative. Strong, not exactly pleasant odor or flavor. Very juicy and as you can see, fibrous as can be. Thick strands too. Felt like fiberglass splinters in my mouth.


More roadside dulcis.


Going a bit off grid here in search of something special.


Prainea limpato.  Not only does it look something from a psychedelic acid trip, it tastes like it too cause nothing this crazy looking should taste this damn good.  Like pulling out giant candy corn.  This fruit is the holy grail of many in the hobby and I am really happy to finally get to try it.  I have read varying reviews about it, but I can tell you that it was quite amazing. 



Durio Graffithii


Baccaurea Laceolata


Willughbeias.  Another group on my bucket list.  Round one is angustifolia and elongated one is sarawacensis.  Yes...flavor brings to mind orange sherbet.  Both delicious.  Angustifolia may be just a tad better, but too close to really call it.  Flesh does cling to the seed, but they are so damn good, you just don't care.




Sinyo way up in a tree looking for willughbeias.


Willughbeia sp. (tampirik).  Again...very similar to other two.  This one has black seeds.


Artocarpus Teysmannii. Big sucker.  This is what was left after dropping three miles! Very similar to marang but much better. Like mashed bananas with a hint of honey. Very delicious. Would loved to have had more.




Artocarpus Kemando.  Looks like brevipedunculatus and about same size too.  But so different.  The shell was very leathery and didn’t want to split open by hand so out comes the knife. Another home run. Sweet with tones of honey and citrus…to me at least. Damn good fruit. Definitely wish we had dozens more.




Durio oxleyanus and dulcis. 


Cleaning seeds with burnt rice hull ash wetted down some.  Makes short work of it.  The willughbeias were the worst to clean.


Durio oxleyanus.  This is a very good durian and we ate all we could purchase.


Went to another limpato tree.  Still delicious.


Artocarpus anisophilus. Fruit looks ready but was really hard. I didn’t try any. Pretty cool color though.


Various selections for consumption.


A deconstructed keledang.  So good.


Must purchase more durian!






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Borneo trip
« on: February 09, 2025, 08:45:30 PM »
No garcinias

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Borneo trip
« on: February 07, 2025, 10:06:28 PM »
Hey all, if you are interested in seeing some pics and such of our in progress Borneo tour, go to my Facebook page “tropical fruit hunters”.  Unfortunately, I am having issues uploading pics ro the post.  I will do so when I get back.  In meantime, all I can offer is Facebook. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango tree makes the news
« on: January 22, 2025, 05:17:46 PM »
I can see going to war over someone cutting down my mango trees.  But no, just reporting a slow news day here in Thailand.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango tree makes the news
« on: January 21, 2025, 08:45:28 PM »
This roadside mango is down south in Surin, Thailand.  Everyone amazed at how many and thick the flowers are and say the leaves are not visible.  Even made the news.  Must not be a lot going on in the country...besides the lung crushing pollution.
https://www.facebook.com/watch/?extid=MSG-UNK-UNK-UNK-IOS_GK0T-GK1C&v=625347890027112

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Certainly depends upon the number of trees you need to have inspected and of course how busy they are.  You might be able to obtain info on when the best day/times it would be to show up.  I don't believe they take all that long to do the actual inspection.  You can bare root prior to getting there, or do the bare rooting at the station.  Might bring a bucket so you can fill with water and store your trees in that while working on the next ones.  They also offered some sphagnum moss to pack around the roots, but maybe not something to count on unless you check ahead.  Have your plastic bags and ties to bag the roots.  You will also need your luggage, boxes, whatever method you will be bringing the trees into the country.  They will put a seal on that item so that your customs knows that it left their station in the manner that it was supposed to.  I would have a late evening flight so that the trees spend as little time bare rooted as possible.  Double and triple check your country's regulations and especially if they have any particular methods on soilless products you can use to keep the roots moist.

I think I did some maprang varieties and tried this with around six trees.  It was terribly stressful and bare rooting is more time consuming than one would think...if you are being careful.  After doing all of this as well as some bare rooting while in PR, I no longer complained about the extra charges for bare rooting when I ordered a tree...especially if shipment required a trip to an inspection station like when coming from Hawaii.  It's a pain in the ass!

98% of the places that sell trees in the Bangkok area will all pretty much sell the same varieties of trees.  These will be the normal varieties and you will not find anything out of the ordinary.  Durian varieties will of course be Monthong, Chanee, Puanmanee, Ganyao.  You may find Musang King.  There are of course a few online nurseries that sells many more varieties of durian and there is one very close to Bangkok that sells over 50 older varieties.  Bottom line...have a good plan and good preparation for obtaining your trees and readying them for transport. 

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