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Cherapu first flowers
« on: October 05, 2025, 11:12:56 PM »
Bangkok, Thailand.  One of my five remaining cherapu has started its first flowers.  This was a much needed pleasant surprise.  These cherapu were among the first trees I ordered after arriving in Thailand.  They came from Malaysia.




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Re: Cherapu first flowers
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2025, 07:27:21 AM »
I'm not impressed Jay. You're in Thailand. I want to see pics of your flowering apple or cherry tree.

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Re: Cherapu first flowers
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2025, 09:05:31 AM »
Congrats! I hope the others start flowering soon. It is tough to have a lone tree flowering that needs the opposite sex.
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Re: Cherapu first flowers
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2025, 03:43:12 PM »
awesome!

hope you get a herm

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Re: Cherapu first flowers
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2025, 07:56:45 PM »
Nice!  Can you show how big the tree is?

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Re: Cherapu first flowers
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2025, 08:40:35 PM »
Sheehan...As much as I enjoy a good cherry and apple, and while many trees are available here, I doubt any that actually work in this climate would taste good enough to want to grow.

The trees average 4', a few a little more.  I really don't like the way they grow so far.  Very top heavy and no matter what I tried, the strength of the trunk could never overcome that weight.  So unfortunately, each needs to be staked.  The trunk and limbs seem more rubbery than most trees.  They seem to want to grow up and very straggly.  They also seem to put any new growth/branches at the very tips further causing weight and balance issues.  I've been thinking about pruning them back, but given one has started to bloom, I may have missed that window.







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Re: Cherapu first flowers
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2025, 08:55:49 PM »
Very nice!  I hope you get fruit and it is as good as people claim. 

I wish I could get cherapu to grow but I can't even get them to start, and the few pre-germinated seeds I got I couldn't get to leaf out.  I imagine that others in US have similar issues because I never see seedlings for sale.  Whoever can grow them could make a killing.

All of my garcinias get floppy, staking them has been almost mandatory for me.  You could ask the locals but I just assumed this is how they are. 

Also, no offense, but your leaves look somewhat chlorotic.  I wonder what the cause could be?  My mangosteen used to have always dark green leaves but this past year or so they have started having this same nutrient-deficiency pattern.  I figured for me it's because I planted them in clay soil instead of the recommended compost mix. 

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Re: Cherapu first flowers
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2025, 09:54:30 PM »
Brian...good points to all.  I've planted hundreds of seeds and only a few will germinate and none have gotten past the first two leaves.  The only killing I've made at them is my ego.  Not worth the frustration.  The fruit is very very good, but I've had issues with latex in the fruit here.  Others have trees that produce fruit without the extreme issues I've encountered.  So there's hope.  Yeah, I've been doing all sorts of shit trying to correct whatever imbalance is going on that is affecting the leaf color.  I've sprayed micros.  Experimented with different soil PH levels.  Fertilizers.  It's a hit and miss...mostly miss it seems.  Some leaves are nice and deep green, while the majority are less so.  I'm tired of pissing around with them.  I just want all to start flowering and hopefully get at both a male and female in the bunch.  Once identified, I will decide what to plant out.  Hopefully some of the leaf issues will work itself out.  They just are not attractive, well-shaped trees at this stage.  At this point, I'm just happy to have any alive.

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Re: Cherapu first flowers
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2025, 08:50:18 PM »
Brian, I don't think clay specifically is an issue. Puerto Rico farms we visit have clay soils and the mangosteen grow great.

I have a tough time with nutrient deficiency issues with garcinia.  I have a group of a species of trees that all get the same treatment and some will look good and others will have interveinal chlorosis.  Also, I have grafted trees that are grafted at around 12-16 inches will push beautifully below the graft,  crazy large dark green leafs, and new growth above the graft at the same time is weak and chlorotic. With the last push, I tried weekly foliar sprays and it didn't help.

Many of my potted garcinia require staking. Established trees in the ground do not.
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Re: Cherapu first flowers
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2025, 10:30:00 PM »
I would plant the trees out. I firmly believe that trees do better planted out then in pots.
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Re: Cherapu first flowers
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2025, 07:09:57 AM »
Peter...I don't have room to plant all five trees.  Need to identify them first

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Re: Cherapu first flowers
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2025, 09:53:17 PM »
I suppose I could plant all five into the ground now and remove any of the trees not needed later.  If multiple females, never know...one might have fruit with better characteristics like less latex.  If jackpot...then one could exhibit hermaphrodite flowers.

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Re: Cherapu first flowers
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2025, 12:06:12 AM »
The flowers are starting to open and they look like they are most likely male.  Thoughts?





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Re: Cherapu first flowers
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2025, 11:22:18 AM »
That is a dude. My males are flowering much more than females and likely the first to show sometimes months before the females. There is still hope a female will expose their goods in the next few months.
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Re: Cherapu first flowers
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2025, 05:29:47 PM »
Those photos are definitely male flowers. The females do not have the ring of pollen. Whitman's male trees produced flowers nearly year-round whereas the females much less so.

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