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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Air-layering Sabara jaboticaba - possible ???
« on: August 31, 2025, 01:25:49 PM »
agreed, and the grafted ones have stronger roots for storms, airlayered and cuttings good for greenhouses and pots
Jaboticabas are air-layered in other countries. I've seen or read about examples in Brazil and Costa Rica. The key is that weather is not much of an issue those places, not getting too cold or too dry, because it takes over six months for a finger or thumb-sized branch to root enough to sustain itself. If you think about it, the technique makes sense. You get a fruiting jaboticaba in far less time compared to growing one from seed. You also avoid the possibility of a graft failing or the tree getting broken at or below the graft. The downside is that I do not believe the root system ever becomes as strong as a seed-grown plant. That might not be an issue if you want a container plant and live in an area where storms are not an issue. I am not sure the technique is the right one for Florida but maybe is for California or greenhouse grown plants in temperate areas. I have thought about air-layering one of my Grimals; it has a fairly substantial branch I want to cut off to improve its shape. That may be a garden project for next year, if I have the time.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Butterscotch Sapodilla Tree best suited for Florida not California
« on: August 10, 2025, 10:13:06 PM »
mine all perform poorly compared to others, like alano, and makok
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Maha "splash" Variegated Maha Chanok (Rainbow Mango)
« on: August 06, 2025, 12:48:50 AM »I might have some rootstock to donate to the cause homie
thanks I will let u know! I been planting a bunch of FL grown types, mostly maha, cogshall, pickering, carrie, and turpentine. They all seem to be similar so far, but i don't have a lot of turpentines up yet.
and thanks Lets Mangooooo, I appreciate the kind words!!
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Maha "splash" Variegated Maha Chanok (Rainbow Mango)
« on: August 03, 2025, 11:43:50 PM »
coming along nicely, the pattern just keeps getting better...I got my rootstocks in gear, and grafting them now, trying to have them ready for sale ASAP, it would be really nice to have them by xmas, but spring of 2026 more likely. I only have about 5 now, including the mother tree, I need over 50 before I think of selling any. I have about 38 rootstocks coming, but my grafting success is about 50-60% at best. Water intrusion to the scion seems to be what gets me, I need to wrap better or something, jabos are easier for me.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not much luck air layering Miracle Berry plants
« on: July 23, 2025, 01:47:13 PM »
they sell these peat coco plugs called rapid rooters or something, had amazing success just cutting them and slapping them on with some hormone, the trick was only using upright and semi hard wood branches in a vigorous state of growth, i think in spring or summer months. Roots in about 45 days, i used two stacked longways for each marcot
https://www.amazon.com/General-Hydroponics-Rapid-Rooter-Replacement/dp/B0002IU8K2
https://www.amazon.com/General-Hydroponics-Rapid-Rooter-Replacement/dp/B0002IU8K2
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: After another route shift, fruit farm stands in way of 417 airport connector
« on: July 19, 2025, 04:46:12 PM »
yooo they used the clip of me buggin out when yung unc fester cut me off mid passionate speech…
hurt my feelings immensely
https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/orlando-sanford-international-airport-connector-proposed-toll-road-sparks-outcry-from-residents
hurt my feelings immensely
https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/orlando-sanford-international-airport-connector-proposed-toll-road-sparks-outcry-from-residents
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: After another route shift, fruit farm stands in way of 417 airport connector
« on: July 19, 2025, 04:14:03 PM »
thank Crisp,
i think this link has the comment form at the very bottom, but im not sure if there’s another way to formally submit a letter that actually goes into public record
https://www.cfxway.com/agency-information/plans-studies/project-studies/pde-study-sr417-sanfordairportconnector/
i think this link has the comment form at the very bottom, but im not sure if there’s another way to formally submit a letter that actually goes into public record
https://www.cfxway.com/agency-information/plans-studies/project-studies/pde-study-sr417-sanfordairportconnector/
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: After another route shift, fruit farm stands in way of 417 airport connector
« on: July 19, 2025, 02:22:19 PM »
went to the meeting, everyone was real pissed off, and they cut people off in the middle of their comments, allowing for only 3 min per person, they cut me off as I was all passionate, and a bunch of other people, really disgusting show by those who ran the meeting.
They also threw in some new info, about how they are planning to make it 4 lanes in the future, so it will be even more intrusive to this area. All last minute, and not much time to react for the community.
My lawyer says I should come out quite well from this, but that's besides the point, I wanted to be where I'm at, and now I have to dig up all these trees, and even my beloved pets, who I planted my most special trees upon, as a memorial.
When I have to see my cats bones, I wonder who at the CFXway really cares?
They also threw in some new info, about how they are planning to make it 4 lanes in the future, so it will be even more intrusive to this area. All last minute, and not much time to react for the community.
My lawyer says I should come out quite well from this, but that's besides the point, I wanted to be where I'm at, and now I have to dig up all these trees, and even my beloved pets, who I planted my most special trees upon, as a memorial.
When I have to see my cats bones, I wonder who at the CFXway really cares?
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grouping Plinia (jabuticaba) Fruit into Astringent & Non-Astringent Varieties
« on: July 10, 2025, 01:47:45 PM »
no it has to do with being able to consume them early or having to wait for them to ripen like a persimmon.
Anomaly one of least astringent.
Anomaly one of least astringent.
Grouping Plinia (jabuticaba) Fruit into Astringent & Non-Astringent Varieties,
Astringent:
Sabara
Grimal
cambuca
Paulista? (ate some early borderline edible, but I say astringent, very chalky)
Non-Astringent:
Red
Anomaly
Escarlate
Phitrantha/Aureana
trunciflora
have not been able to taste coronata, I assume astringent...
Adam, when you say "astringent", do you mean the skin of the fruit?
Which variety is the least astringent?
Thanks
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pitangatuba/Pitomba 5-of-6 Cross Looks Promising So Far
« on: June 27, 2025, 10:29:53 AM »Found this fruit today on 6-of-6... notice the distinctive cracks and red toning in the skin... fairly tart too:
Kevin
temps below 50F will cause poor flavor and red skins on tubas
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Maha "splash" Variegated Maha Chanok (Rainbow Mango)
« on: June 24, 2025, 01:59:47 AM »
a very strong pattern on this small grafted tree, I’m in the phase of increasing my stock, with hopes of releasing this before 2027.
the best thing to do, would be to wait for it to fruit, to confirm whether or not the fruit is variegated and if it tastes anything like the mother tree (maha chanok)
the best thing to do, would be to wait for it to fruit, to confirm whether or not the fruit is variegated and if it tastes anything like the mother tree (maha chanok)
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fair price for a fruiting Sabara Jaboticaba
« on: June 09, 2025, 12:45:06 PM »
i'm sharing this link if they try to take my property through eminent domain lol.
these things aren't cheap.
still waiting on the final decision, but I can't imagine a plant appraiser coming out and telling me what my rare stuff is worth...they don't even know what a shatzer's hybird is, and they never saw the variegated maha chanok, lol
these things aren't cheap.
still waiting on the final decision, but I can't imagine a plant appraiser coming out and telling me what my rare stuff is worth...they don't even know what a shatzer's hybird is, and they never saw the variegated maha chanok, lol
If it makes you happy it is worth it. Especially if you can afford it.
I've been growing Jaboticaba for 25 years and have several very large trees and have most of the common variety.
I basically eat jaboticaba every day. Totally worth it in my opinion.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Luc's Garcinia recent discoveries
« on: June 06, 2025, 05:55:58 PM »
reminds me of pawpaw hunting in Ohio!
congrats on the nice fruits!
nice pics!
congrats on the nice fruits!
nice pics!
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: June 05, 2025, 01:32:14 PM »
no problem lol, i had to scroll for like 10 seconds to get past them though... great pics congrats on the nice trees
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Im sorry i didn't made the pics big... they turned big.can you make the pic a little larger so I can see it on my 15 inch monitor?
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« on: May 31, 2025, 06:34:27 PM »
can you make the pic a little larger so I can see it on my 15 inch monitor?
Jaboticaba Momotaro new leaves
Red Hybrid jaboticaba new leaves
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia sp. Squat
« on: May 30, 2025, 04:24:26 PM »
very beautiful well behaved plant, with sour sweet fruits...I think they have great health benefits, there's a certain bitterness they posses when eaten too early that is unique. Maybe be a compound in the fruit, such as a benzophenone that is only found within this species.
You're welcome Adam.
By the way, what you've said about Garcinia sp. Squat has convinced me to grow 'em. Someone in Australia sells grafted plants for $150, I think I'll need to buy one
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: another precocious Eugenia - sp. "Pitangão Amarelo da Unicamp"
« on: May 30, 2025, 04:17:58 PM »
try to peel n eat, maybe the resin is mostly in the skin, im pretty sure it is, because the first bite and chew was nice, then as I got into the skin the resin really picked up the pace...
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: another precocious Eugenia - sp. "Pitangão Amarelo da Unicamp"
« on: May 30, 2025, 04:15:23 PM »
resin flavor kept intensifying after I ate it...it's ok fruit, but not if you hate Suriname resins...
I could see myself letting a big crop of these go to waste....but maybe flavor improves and I ate this first fruit a little too early...I see they get reddish...
and it's easy enough to grow, pretty little tree.
not something I'm real excited about personally.
I could see myself letting a big crop of these go to waste....but maybe flavor improves and I ate this first fruit a little too early...I see they get reddish...
and it's easy enough to grow, pretty little tree.
not something I'm real excited about personally.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrciaria Asa-Grayii / Plinia Asa-Grayii
« on: May 30, 2025, 01:02:39 AM »
very similar yes thank you very much!
Is it this?
https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=54014.0;topicseen
https://www.colecionandofrutas.com.br/eugeniaburkartiana.htmno i have no ideamine turns out to be mislabeled, i hope someone didn’t distribute/sell a bunch to people on accident, or on purpose. Thankfully the tree was gifted to meAdam, do you have any guesses as to what it is?
not my favorite fruit, resinous flavor akin to suriname cherry
Still looks to be a pretty fruit.
The people who have fruited the Asa-Grayii say it is bland anyways?
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: another precocious Eugenia - sp. "Pitangão Amarelo da Unicamp"
« on: May 30, 2025, 12:56:20 AM »
kinda tastes like carrot pitomba and pitanga
maybe this is same as what yall are talking bout
maybe this is same as what yall are talking bout
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrciaria Asa-Grayii / Plinia Asa-Grayii
« on: May 29, 2025, 10:29:49 AM »
no i have no idea
mine turns out to be mislabeled, i hope someone didn’t distribute/sell a bunch to people on accident, or on purpose. Thankfully the tree was gifted to meAdam, do you have any guesses as to what it is?
not my favorite fruit, resinous flavor akin to suriname cherry
Still looks to be a pretty fruit.
The people who have fruited the Asa-Grayii say it is bland anyways?
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Coconut Cream scale infestation help
« on: May 28, 2025, 06:54:06 PM »
try the iv organics tree paint, it worked for me
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrciaria Asa-Grayii / Plinia Asa-Grayii
« on: May 28, 2025, 06:51:39 PM »
mine turns out to be mislabeled, i hope someone didn’t distribute/sell a bunch to people on accident, or on purpose. Thankfully the tree was gifted to me
not my favorite fruit, resinous flavor akin to suriname cherry
not my favorite fruit, resinous flavor akin to suriname cherry
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia sp. Squat
« on: May 27, 2025, 10:59:51 PM »
Rob thanks very much!
I'm not sure but I think I updated the description on the video, and changed the title...but not sure if I worded it that way on the caption...
any how, the squat is great for my needs here, being such a strong tree, able to withstand all the abuse. Probably 33F to 105F in greenhouse.
If you enjoy lemon drop mangosteen you will definitely like these...the ornamental appearance of the fruit is very appealing, making people want to eat them based on looks alone...just don't try to eat the skin or eat them too early, they need to soften up, and the skin is not edible like a lemon drop.
seems like these are larger than even the superior lemon drop, but has a thicker skin and larger seed.
I love the texture of the pulp too.
I'm not sure but I think I updated the description on the video, and changed the title...but not sure if I worded it that way on the caption...
any how, the squat is great for my needs here, being such a strong tree, able to withstand all the abuse. Probably 33F to 105F in greenhouse.
If you enjoy lemon drop mangosteen you will definitely like these...the ornamental appearance of the fruit is very appealing, making people want to eat them based on looks alone...just don't try to eat the skin or eat them too early, they need to soften up, and the skin is not edible like a lemon drop.
seems like these are larger than even the superior lemon drop, but has a thicker skin and larger seed.
I love the texture of the pulp too.
i have been selling these as grafted trees, I messed up my labels because of some confusing emails i got from Jim years ago, where he offered me the similar looking Lindero madrono shortly after I had already got the squat. I figured he changed the name to the local native name, but they are in fact two separate trees. This was my fault for assuming they are the same.
https://youtu.be/IDa2hYClwos?si=m7csv6tFAoVZZbIO
Adam, I watched your youtube video the other day, loved it!
Would be great if you edited it and added in a caption saying that they are indeed not the same. I found myself nearly breaking the bank buying a $150 grafted Squat thinking it was Garcinia sp. Madrono Lindero!