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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spice trees
« on: June 03, 2023, 09:03:03 AM »
I got lucky with my single allspice tree and it produces fruit, although I have heard that they can be dioecious.

I have found the seedlings to be very slow growing during the first year and then take off.

My tree handles pruning well so I think it had good potential as a hedge.

Tape arrived, well packaged. Thank you!

Do you have photos of the flowers?

The last time I got a Small Seeds Lot Permit (2018?), I was told by USDA that you could no longer bring seeds back in person and were required to mail them. Hopefully they have reconsidered that policy. I mailed my seeds back from SE Asia and everything (other than some durian seeds) arrived with no issues. Between the mailing and subsequent inspection in the US, it took about 3-4 weeks to get to my house. When I arrived back in the US and declared "no seeds/ag products" (since I had mailed them) my luggage was physically inspected to the last sock.

If you do try to bring seeds back, make sure that you declare them at your port of entry to avoid any potential legal issues. It will be up to whatever inspector you encounter at the airport as to whether you are permitted to keep them, they are sent to the nearest Ag station for inspection (if that happens, make sure to have some sort of shipping account set up as they will bill you for the postage to get them back home), or they will simply confiscate and "destroy" them.

Good luck! I hope it works out for you.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can Mangosteen be Grown in Florida?
« on: March 24, 2023, 07:01:09 PM »
TFH is correct. The late William "Bill" Whitman of Bal Harbour (think North Miami Beach) had several fruiting trees outdoor, in the ground. His location between the Atlantic ocean and Biscayne Bay had a moderation effect on temperatures when compared to the mainland. It took 17 years to get the first fruit. Three trees grafted from Mr. Whitman's trees , further supported with nurse grafts, produced fruit somewhat quicker (guessing maybe 10 years?) in the Whitman Rare Fruit Pavillion at Fairchild Gardens, which had a 17 foot soil base of acidic sand. Ultimately 2 of the original trees, and numerous other rare fruit trees, were destroyed to make room for...and aroid garden. The current woman who has a fruiting tree has it growing in a large pot with potting soil. Her tree is growing outside, protected from the north winds, also took 17 years before it first fruited.

Bottom can be fruited in South Florida if one is patient, and can provide a slightly acidic soil. As TFH also said, a greenhouse would be very helpful to lessen the time to first fruiting.

In contrast, I planted a 6-foot tall mangosteen in the ground, including amendments to lower the natural 8.2 pH soil of western Dade County, and it was dead within 6 months! 🙁

Congratulations Ryan! Looks like a pretty solid score to me. And thank you for letting us play along. 🙂

Fruit guy, how many crops do you get out of your tree and what time(s) of the year?

Honest Abe,

There is usually some fruit on the trees most of the year. The largest crops occur starting in Spring (the trees are loaded with flowers now) and are fairly continuously flowering or fruiting (or both) until the Fall. I have 3 trees, all about 20 years old.

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During the warmer months of the year, I have noted that something (fruit fly, wasp?) punctures the skin and there may be larvae inside. Easy to spot the brown/black puncture spots on the yellow/orange skin. Fruit still tastes good.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: ISO: cecropia/gummy worm fruit
« on: February 18, 2023, 06:56:59 PM »
There is/was a tree at the Fruit & Spice Park. Taste reminded me of black licorice. Large cuttings (2 inch diameter) are the way to go if you can find a tree.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ripening Green Sapote
« on: February 12, 2023, 11:37:26 AM »
The taste of green sapote is quite similar to mamey sapote - both are delicious IMHO. The green sapote has smaller fruit and can easily be eaten in a single sitting compared to a Magaņa type mamey sapote which is more of a challenge. It is visually easier to determine when the green sapote fruit is ripe as the skin color changes from green to orange as it ripens, so you do not have to scratch the skin as one does with a mamey sapote.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Type of Maprang Is This?
« on: February 05, 2023, 08:31:04 AM »
Congrats on flowers FG! Exciting getting closer to fruits  =

Thank you  Roblack. Hopefully this is the year.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Type of Maprang Is This?
« on: February 03, 2023, 11:08:47 PM »
First 2 panicles this year....

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Type of Maprang Is This?
« on: January 27, 2023, 06:29:59 AM »

Nice tree! Slow growers in my experience

So true! I think I get 2 or 3 growth flushes per year.  Last year my in-ground seedling started 3 flower panicles. They reached 1 inch in length...and then stopped. I guess they got tired. Hoping for better luck this year.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Type of Maprang Is This?
« on: January 26, 2023, 10:58:42 AM »
Healthy looking plant  :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are my jujubes ripe
« on: January 25, 2023, 09:49:33 AM »
I had a seedling where the fruit skin color went from dark green to light green when it was ripe. The color change was distinct. There may have been a touch of yellow but never white. That's seedling variation for you. I would suggest trying them at different color stages to see when you like them best.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 10b - best snacking fruits for kids
« on: January 24, 2023, 01:12:10 PM »
Lots of excellent suggestions on this thread. I would throw in any of the Physalis ssp. fruits (poha berry, ground cherry, winter cherry, etc.).

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB fresh cacao pods
« on: January 19, 2023, 08:11:49 AM »
Montoso Gardens in Puerto Rico has a few different types for sale.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Great Scion Wood Exchange 2023
« on: January 15, 2023, 10:54:43 AM »
What a great event! I wish we had something like this in Florida.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Durian + Salak Seedlings - South Florida
« on: January 08, 2023, 06:40:35 PM »
Have you considered contacting public gardens, such as the Fruit and Spice Park in Homestead, or Grimal Grove in Big Pine Key?

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Marang Trees
« on: January 07, 2023, 05:41:55 PM »
I have a few available.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Henna tree Lawsonia inermis
« on: December 28, 2022, 09:00:37 PM »
I just sprouted some from seeds, so I do not have any personal insight yet on growing henna, however I did do a little research and found the site below. It has links at the bottom of the page to additional information about henna. As to soil, I only found mention of potting soil if growing indoors. Most importantly seems to be to let it dry out before watering to mimic the monsoon climate it is used to. Good luck!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical Fruit Holiday Foods
« on: December 07, 2022, 11:48:30 AM »
I have used black sapote in place of pumpkin in a cheesecake. It had a beautiful  chocolate  colored appearance and tasted like cheesecake.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Something eating my seeds?
« on: October 24, 2022, 11:57:27 AM »

I agree. It is absolutely frustrating and infuriating at the same time. Thanks for showing me your idea. It's perfect. Now I know what people meant by crates!

Happy to share. They key things I would point out is to make sure the sides give plenty of clearance so that the seedlings have room to grow before removing the crate,; if you use trays -make the crate as near as possible to the size of your trays (and  flush to the surface) so that critters cannot bypass the crating; and make sure the holes in the screen are small enough to keep the critters out. Nice can get into pretty tight holes. Larger critters may be able to overturn the crates so you may have to weigh them down.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Something eating my seeds?
« on: October 23, 2022, 08:47:36 PM »
There are few things as frustrating as going out to check on you planted seeds and finding them chews or removed. I built some frames with spare material to protect them. The other night I planted a tray and failed to protect them and every single one was gone in the morning. One night was all it took and the local mice had a feast. These are the frames I built.

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