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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: January 25, 2023, 02:20:53 PM »
Wow, that's awesome, Simon! Good luck!


Trouble in Paradise

Too bad you couldn't have a Mammee Apple, RS! What did you think of Noni?

I *think* I've seen pollinators on my Sugar Loaf and Pickering blooms. I'll pay better attention. I did catch these love bugs in the act on my Madame Francis bloom. The tree is new to me in a seven-gallon pot, and it will be hard to not let it hold onto at least one fruit . . .

johnb51, there's been a bit of damage, including some manufactured homes being completely destroyed (still other manufactured homes that already went through Hurricane Charley have minimal damage from Ian) . Most non-metal roofs seem to have damage around this area. A lot of trees damaged or downed. But heading east/northeast on US 17, Arcadia had some serious flooding post-hurricane, so even if the winds don't get ya, something else might.

I live near where Calusa is suggesting, and while I agree the area is nice, we had freezes last year and frost this year, so covering for cold may be necessary if you settle here. Just the same, I love it here.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Purple Mulberry Identification help
« on: January 20, 2023, 02:44:41 PM »
Thanks, Kaz! I've successfully cleft grafted mangos three times, with many more failures both with cleft and veneer grafts. If cleft grafting works and now is a good time of year to graft, I am definitely interested and appreciate your generosity! Thank you!

What about Bael Fruit? Speaking of which, do these look like Bael Fruit? (I planted a bunch of different seeds from Fruit&Spice Park and any labels were dispersed by Ian.)

More frost last night--I think the lows went down to 36. Definitely more frost last night than the night before. While last January's experience makes me question how effective frost cloth is against freezing temps, it definitely seems to have helped protect against frost damage from the last couple nights. Freshly uncovered blooms:

Car frost:

Supposedly only went down to 37 or 36, but there's patchy frost. Hopefully the frost cloth was enough to protect the buds and blooms. We're supposed to get patchy frost again tomorrow morning. Galatians522, did you mean 3am to 9am?

NOAA says 34F (originally included patchy frost😳 but not in latest updates), weather dot com says 35 for the low, and AccuWeather says 36. Hoping AccuWeather is the most accurate.

Went ahead and covered a lot of inground stuff and brought in a bunch of container plants. Some stuff will just have to do their best, though.

My two inground Soursops  also defoliated after the Dec cold spell. Not holding out hope for them.

Why does it always have to be so damn windy when I have to cover stuff with frostcloth?!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: January 13, 2023, 07:09:32 PM »
Sugarloaf, a 7-gal containerized Madame Francis, and one of my Pickerings are flowering. I'm hoping the buds poking out on a lot of my seedling trees are going to turn into panicles. I am afraid of frost Sunday morning and hope this is the last drop into the 30s this season.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: eugenia < garcinia ?
« on: January 12, 2023, 02:55:33 PM »
pagnr, have you ever read Lord of the Flies? How did you open the coconuts? How would one open coconuts without manmade tools? Thanks!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: eugenia < garcinia ?
« on: January 12, 2023, 02:19:12 PM »
Yeah, Okvid, what about that island scenario, huh?!

(You've got him on the ropes now, Epiphyte! I thought you were gonna wait a little bit longer before pulling out the ol' "deserted, tropical island with only coconut trees" angle, but you know what you're doing here! I bet everyone on this forum is ready to fall into line now!)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: eugenia < garcinia ?
« on: January 12, 2023, 08:33:15 AM »
tru, what's with you? Epiphyte has done a bang up job convincing everyone here we need to switch to a donation system. Heck, ever since Epiphyte wrote: "a donation system, on the other hand, would be like public tug of war.  the harder you pulled for canarium, the more curious i'd be about it," I've been at the ready to donate. I just don't know who to send my hard-earned money to to show my love? If his embedded links (ones that make our occasional spammers weep with envy) and name dropping haven't convinced you, I'm afraid nothing will.

Epiphyte, ignore the haters. Keep up the good fight. One day all will see and understand. (I'll admit, I thought this thread was going to die a couple days ago. You saved the day by presenting a theoretical charge that Okvid was trying to be your slave master. Brilliant move that allowed you to pontificate further!) Continue trying to enlighten the nonbelievers! KEEP THIS THREAD ALIVE!!!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit trees I gave up on
« on: January 10, 2023, 10:59:15 AM »
FruitGrower and Flgarden, what problems did you have with the trees, e.g., growth habit, disease, etc.? Thanks!

P.S. if my coffee plants go, I'll add that to the list of trees I gave up on . . .

This is a recently purchased Florigon. Leaves were plenty and looked great when purchased mid-December, but a lot have developed issues and dropped.

Tree is in original container. It was brought indoors for five days during the recent cold spell (indoors was low light). Outside, mornings have been full of dew and at times fog. I've watered it, but have not done anything else.

I'm guessing this is either Red Rust or Leaf Blight? What if anything should be done? I get nervous seeing so many leaves drop. If it was warmer, I'd plant it--trees here do much better in the ground.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: eugenia < garcinia ?
« on: January 10, 2023, 06:02:54 AM »
Epiphyte, above you wrote: the more you donate to this forum, the more influence you should have on it.

Did you donate during this year's fundraiser? Thanks!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can a Mango Tree change it's mind?
« on: January 01, 2023, 06:04:28 AM »
Thanks, Galatians522! The only other factor is that these are seedling trees between 4 1/2 and 5 1/2 years old. One did flower and set fruits last year, which were lost in the freezes, so I'm hopeful it'll fruit again this year. Happy New Year!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Can a Mango Tree change it's mind?
« on: December 31, 2022, 06:46:45 PM »
Weird question that I hope I can articulate. I searched for an answer on the interwebs, but couldn't find one.

Most of my mature Mango trees looked like they were going to have a flush of growth going into last week's cold weather. As a lot of trees did indeed push new growth just prior to the cold, I'm guessing the swelling buds on the mature trees are (were?) going to be new leaves. But since we had the cold, could the tree "change its mind" and convert new leaves into flower panicles? Is this what Mixed Bloom is?

Just a question that came to me as I wandered the yard hoping all mature trees bloom.


Awesome, thank you, Gulfgardener!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit trees I gave up on
« on: December 31, 2022, 06:29:04 AM »
At this point . . .

I'm done with certain guavas (Ruby Supreme and Mexican Cream). Every tree started out great but then declined and died. I'm guessing nematodes. Cattley Guava is doing well, but no fruit yet.

Passionfruit. Out of hundreds of "fruit", only two had pulp. Grew out of control and it was the reason that part of my fencing was pushed over in Hurricane Ian. It took the hurricane to cut it off the power pole it was climbing.

I am trying to resist planting any tree or plant that doesn't do well in 10a. I have enough fun stressing about Mangos and Jackfruit in cold weather to not need to add to that.

I need to resist planting every seed I encounter.

Gulfgardener, any pics of your candle-heater setup? I'm thinking I want to incorporate them into future endeavors. There are various YouTube videos out there on them; just curious about the setup you went with.

850FL, did you provide *any* protection to anything? Hopefully your survivors come out okay--I know after last year's freezes, some things that looked initially okay eventually didn't.

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