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As you may know from my past posts, I will periodically travel to nurseries and review my purchases. I also order quite a bit online. My last purchases were from Bob Wells at Sorelle Farms in Texas, Logees, and Peaceful Heritage.

If you are familiar with Logees, you know they sell what they say and their plants are generally healthy but they charge an arm and leg for shipping and they sell LITTLE plants. Logees strength is the variety of plants they sell. That said, they clearly state the size of the plants they sell. At one time Logees was the only place I knew of that had a variety mail order tropical fruit trees. Logee's does ship fast and Logees has a great website. Unless it's a plant that's available no where else  I would say Logees should never be the first choice simply because their plants are so small.

Bob Wells at Sorelle Farms in Texas
To be honest I have never had a bad purchase from Bob Wells. Whether in store or not their product is always good. If they say they are shipping a 5 gal size tree, that's what you are getting. I like that what they ship is not bare rooted and the root systems are well developed. All trees Blenheim Apricot, Reliance Peach, and Sweet Treat Pluerry.They all calipered more than an inch all of them 4 footers.  Bob Wells ships everything to most states except citrus. The website is great and easy to navigate.

Peaceful Heritage
Peaceful Heritage is a newer vendor to me.   You can tell they are small operation and not very well developed in terms of their web operation.  According to their website they sell a wide variety of fruits and vegetables some of which you will not commonly on other websites. If you look at some of their YouTube videos you can see that they promote their operation in a way that makes you think that they are knowledgeable about what they sell. I actually found out about them searching for pawpaw videos. A poster on another website said they were a source for Horn's White Pawpaw and I decided to see what they had to offer. They sell the standard pawpaw cultivars you see on on there websites: the KSU's, the Petersens' and the old cultivars like Pennsylvania Golden. They also sell some of their own cultivars with names like Sri Vishnu and some of Lehman's cultivars.

My experience is that they are a little sketchy. This year I was late on my purchases and I decided to give them a try since they had some cultivars of pawpaw that I could not find anywhere else. I went to their website and they were sold out. They were selling a $50 VIP list that was supposed to allow you to buy trees when they were ready. Once it came out  I ordered the trees that I wanted and was promptly informed that they only had what they called "supreme" sizes left. For $150 a tree I was expecting something special. This is what I got after a grand total of $400( two trees $40 for shipping. No the VIP did not apply to the purchase).

The Package with two trees.

This is high graft done with what looks like graft wax.

Both trees out of the box

Youcan see the length of the tree.

You can see this is quite a small diameter.

These are not $150 trees. No way in the world the word supreme applies to these trees. It's like he's grafting high to make it look like it's an older tree.  A one year old graft on a 3 year old seedling is not a 4 yr old tree. I would not recommend Peaceful Heritage for pawpaw purchases. Their confusing sizing and their VIP sale tactic put them in the same category for me as some of the other internet operations that have not the best reputation. I am going to have to mark them off my list like I did Seamus O'Leary.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Carolina Lychee
« on: September 23, 2023, 07:00:42 PM »
This a picture of the first lychee I have grown. Two years  in a container so probably years old. I purchased it at Pokey's in Florida.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Best time to pull foil off of grafts
« on: July 20, 2023, 12:24:55 PM »
I have some grafts that I wanted try to protect with foil. They are now pushing. When should I remove the foil?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Piera Loquat
« on: July 02, 2023, 04:29:20 PM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Rooting hormone for graft success?
« on: June 10, 2023, 09:44:15 PM »
A few months to a year ago someone posted some YouTube links and they showed mango grafting in South East Asia. Basically they were using unripe bananas as a grafting adjutant. I watched some where they would just smear the cut ends of the graft union andnI saw some where they used banana past to cover the union. After this the union was wrapped in some sort of grafting film. This took me down the rabbit hole until I found some research about auxins and cytokinins. If I am correct these are used in rooting hormone powders. Has anyone here tried using  these for grafting?

I have killed a few caimitos by up-potting them. Apparently they are sensitive to certain types as soil and havinf their roots disturbed. I have done the same with some abius. Theu seemed sensitive to soil moisture. Both plants seem senstove to my usual liquid fertilizers. Is there as potting mix that anyone has any success with? I need something that can hold enough water since I water infrequently. Also what kind of Humidy requirements do they have. Thanks all.

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Looking to buy Bumper Satsuma trees.
« on: April 14, 2023, 01:00:13 PM »
I Killed mine this year in an outdoor zone 7 experiment. I need to get some more trees. Thanks for any help.

As stated, I'm about to order persimmon scions. These folks seem to have the Sestronka variety I want. Has anybody here used them before?

Last year i had a lot of success with my fungus susceptible plants by using a system fungicide. Even my blighted quince trees seem to be making a comeback. Btw Karps sweet is not that sweet but it does resist pine rust. My plan is to proactively douse the quinces, apples, pears and the mangos and probably the persimmons too. I had some kinda nasty on my sugar apples but neem knocked it out.

Citrus General Discussion / Seedy finger limes: Is this normal
« on: October 08, 2022, 07:52:50 PM »
When I see finger limes advertised they never have seeds. Mine do. Is it the time I picked them or is this normal and the picture we see are doctored?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / What is this funky stuff on my white sapote?
« on: October 07, 2022, 07:00:45 PM »
I'm trying to figure out what the discoloration is on the skin of my Vernon Sapote tree purchased at Home Depot in Indio California about 2 years ago. It started as 3 gal and was upsized to a 7 gal. Flowered in Early Spring. It tasted sweet with a sugarcane like flavor. There was no caramel undertone like the one I tasted from the tree at Clausens in Vista. The texture and flavor  is very similar to a pawpaw but with a little graininess like a pear.  The level of sweetness was like a just ripe cavandish banana. Not at all cloying. The skin was much like a pear with no bitterness. One half had a slight citrus flavor more like orange or tangerine than lemon or lime or grapefruit. Zero sourness. There is a slight tannin aftertaste that may be from the pieces of skin I ate. It had two large well developled seeds and two that were not developed. I would say it was 50% pulp.

Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / WTB 日向夏 Hyuganatsu
« on: September 19, 2022, 06:44:16 PM »
Where would I buy scions for this?

I was just about to snag some wax apple plants online when I saw the bad reviews for Kinda disturbing how many members have taken a loss with these people or been dissatisfied. I rolled the dice and decided to buy from Mimosa LA's website but when I clicked on purchase online I was redirected to Vườn c‚y ăn trŠi - California Tropical Fruit Trees. I bought it Paypal but not I'm thinking it might be sketchy too. Anybody else bought from Mimosa online and had this experience?

Come on Guys. I know you got them ;D I bought two kei apples from exotica 5 years ago and neither has fruited. I need one that fruits and taste good. Come on and help old CarolinaZone out. 8)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Logees 'Precoce'
« on: August 18, 2022, 06:02:21 PM »
I bought a few of these on a whim. Does anybody have any information on these? Less than a decade or not? ;D

I bought this thing on a whim but never got the name. Any idea what it is?

Are there any official varieties? One of mine is like tree and it is sending out buds. The other two are "bushy" and super spiny but no buds. What gives?

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Diospyros texana dioecious. Maybe not.
« on: May 27, 2022, 07:42:09 PM »
I have four texas persimmons planted in my persimmon patch. I assume the two that flowered are females. This is the first year they have flowered. One of them is holding two fruits. The only other persimmons around are my two Nikita's gifts and my two Rossyeankas. Any guess on how this happened?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Trip Report!! Jack and the BeanStalk
« on: May 13, 2022, 10:10:15 AM »
East Coast-
Jack and the BeanStalk
The property
This a small property with a large variety of tropical and subtropicals. They also carry some citrus.
The staff
The staff is was two ladies  and an older gentleman who spoke "ok" English so with my "ok" spanish I was able to converse.
The website
It's pretty basic and sparse. They seem to make an effort to update their inventory but you have to download a pdf so it is not up to the minute accurate but at least they are trying. They also respond to emails so that is plus.
Prices there are on par with with the upper end of Florida prices and I would say maybe a little pricey; Almost like West cost pricing a few years ago. 3 gals for >$45 is becoming the new normal. Theirs were $55 and small. When I was there most of their inventory was above 7 gal and up especially for what I call hard to find. Caimito's were in short supply and what they had looked healthy but was in 15 gals for $190 and only the greens were available. They had some healthy wax jambus in 7 gal but they were $90. I still bought two but it stung. Yes, the inflation has hit and it sucks.
On par with most other sellers in terms of size and health. Some of the plants were a little burned. I suspect this is because they don't have everything under shade cloth.

I met the owner and he was a nice guy. Even though his prices were a little high IMO he did cut me a deal so I basically got one 3gal plant for free.  I heard about the place from a youtuber named Paul. This guy is a great resource for places to go but he is single-handedly running down the inventory for everything  :D :D :D The owner said a few days after Paul posted the video he was swamped. It's about 20 min off of I-95 Near West Palm beach if I am not mistaken.

I was at Lara's bright and early. The gate was closed 10 minutes after opening time so I called. Julian answered the phone. After a short convo I found out he was sold out of almost everything. I was looking for: caimitos, custard apples.... Hopefully he will have more inventory soon. Call before you travel

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Best time to go plant shopping: All regions
« on: February 12, 2022, 07:57:33 PM »
I just got back from Phoenix. I did a quick trip to O'Leary's. They had NOTHING that they had listed on their website that I wanted event though it was listed as in stock on their website. This is the second time they burned me :'(  >:( . No. Not that type of burn. ;D. I'm not messing with them anymore. They had a lot of plants that looked sub-optimal if compared to Florida and California nurseries (in general).

That being the case when is the best time of year to go shopping for plants in your regions? When is the time that has the most inventory? When is the time that has the best inventory?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Jaboticaba defoliated
« on: December 21, 2021, 07:23:44 PM »
My 8-10 yr old 6 ft Jaboticaba defoliated last spring and the leaves have not grown back. It is still green under the bark. Does anybody have any ideas what I should do?

I'm about to make an order from Madison Citrus Nursery. Does anybody know about or have experience with Moro x Tarocco Blood Orange? I'm also getting a Lakeland limequat and harvey lemon.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / South Miami Road trip: Mission Caimito!!
« on: October 31, 2021, 05:44:45 PM »
I am planning a road trip to Miami next weekend. The mission objective is to go to Lara Farms and get some of his Caimito and Canistel cultivars and what ever else turns my head. If he's game I will try to purchase some scions of his Campbell cultivar of White Sapote. Any suggestions of any other places nearby I should hit? I would love to pick up a Sugar belle citrus while I am there. The last stop that day will be Pokey's as usual. Come guys! Help old man Carolina hunt!

Most of my plant are in pots so I wanted to ask other forum members what there regimen was in hopes of gaining knowledge.

I usually repot the plant to a larger potsize and spray for bugs. When I was buying plants from a particular nursery I would always spray with fungicide because everything  I brought back from them ended up with fungus.

Does anybody know an online seller with kerajis?

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