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I have a grafted purple Caimito from Top Tropicals that I bought a bit over two years ago, planted in my yard in San Diego and completely neglected aside from irrigation. It is maybe 9' tall now and growing very well but has not flowered. Of course I won't keep it if convinced it will never flower but I'll give it a few more years maybe, but the tree does survive without any apparent issue here.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Babaco
« on: August 20, 2017, 06:34:01 AM »
I've been attempting to grow it in San Diego but agree that it does not seem to like sun. One plant in part-day sun died, another is barely alive, but the one I put in shade seems to be doing OK, but they're all very small still. I know of a local nursery that has a fruiting one which does get a good amount of sunlight so maybe they just don't like sunlight when small...

I'm jealous! I've had a grafted red jaboticaba in the ground for three years that still hasn't flowered.

My (alleged) Lemon Zest from Florida, which I bought about six months ago and is in the ground, has already set a couple dozen fruit but it is also growing new leaves from the base of those panicles, so it's not doing what some others report where trees fruit themselves to death. So it seems like a great performer.

My Coconut Cream, purchased at the same time from the same place (Plant O' Gram), flowered but did not set fruit and I haven't yet noticed any new leaves either, although I last checked a week ago.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: San Diego Botanic Garden Visit
« on: May 22, 2017, 07:37:18 PM »
The zoo has a bunch of excellent kei apple trees. One is near the elephants and another is on the way to the tortoises, opposite the bananas along the big open area.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spring time in SoCal
« on: May 12, 2017, 09:45:46 PM »
So jealous of all of those canistels! My Ross Sapote ripened its last of 5 fruits a few days ago but it's still young. Surinam cherry has tons of unripe fruits that are just beginning to ripen, my mulberry has been producing ripe fruits throughout the last few weeks, an imported Lemon Zest mango set fruit a few weeks ago but they're months away from being ripe of course, and my wax jambu are producing lots of flower buds but still a little while before they'll bloom.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What grows without full sun...
« on: May 06, 2017, 05:30:16 PM »
Surinam cherry does well with part sun and I suspect other eugenias will as well. Guava and mango, on the other hand, are some of the most sun-critical trees, needing as much sun as they can get for optimal fruit quality. Wax jambu and carambola are good part-shade plants.

I bought it from TT a couple of years ago (they're one of the few nurseries shipping to CA legally). It really is highly productive even though it's variegated. Fruits are relatively small and with plenty of seeds, but the flavor can be good. I say "can be" because I found that ir varied; early season fruits seemed much better than later season fruits. TT also sells a variety they call "Sweet Kiss" and I think tha one is much better quality, though not as productive.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: TR Hovey Papaya question
« on: May 02, 2017, 05:35:09 PM »
Logees sells this plant.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nance (Byrsonima crassifolia)
« on: April 13, 2017, 02:16:39 PM »
Can you post a photo of a ripe fruit cut in half, the next time one ripens?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: cold tolerance in FL vs. CA
« on: April 12, 2017, 08:37:58 PM »
The only thing to keep in mind is average vs extreme temperatures. For example Tampa is considered zone 9B but it's from what I've seen it's usually 80 degrees every day in the middle of winter, with the low being 50+. But they have had record lows of well below freezing. On the other hand San Diego is typically in the 50s or low 60s in winter, with the low being around 35-40 degrees on the coldest nights, but the all-time record low is only 28 and really I have never seen it go below 35 in my 12 years living here. And it's considered zone 10B even though it's much colder than Tampa generally, as well as drier.

But I too like to experiment. My Ross Sapote is doing well, wax jambus thrive, green sapote is really growing well though no fruit yet (too young), caimito survives the winter easily but hasn't flowered yet... you never know until you try.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Coconut cream in california
« on: April 12, 2017, 06:56:55 PM »
I have a coconut cream and lemon zest purchased six months ago from Florida. Both are flowering but after the "growing mangoes in SoCal" thread I was beginning to think they'd just flower themselves to death, but somehow a bunch of you got fruit.

Did you graft the plants yourself, or were they purchased locally or from Florida?

There is no such thing as a nationally invasive plant in the US. Something invasive in Hawaii is not invasive in Alaska, obviously. Individual states set the laws on what plants and animals are allowed.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What month does wax jambu flower?
« on: April 04, 2017, 03:07:37 PM »
Here in San Diego the buds form in May and bloom starting in June, and usually flowers are produced for a few months so I get ripe fruit August through November (four months of fruit). But in humid warm Florida it's much earlier for sure. I went to Miami in June last year and saw huge wax jambus full of and dropping fruit when my own tree had only just begun to flower.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« on: March 28, 2017, 08:09:01 PM »
I bought mine from Top Tropicals. It is actually not in clay; I had dug up all of the root-infested clay next to my house and filled it entirely with potting soil so it's highly organic and really fast draining. The soil's only a couple feet deep at most though, with a slab of pavement underneath, so hopefully it's sufficient depth. If not I'll have to move the tree.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ross Sapote setting fruit in San Diego
« on: March 28, 2017, 03:54:45 PM »
After 7 months, the first fruit finally ripened! There are four more that are almost ripe but are still green. The first one was one of the smallest but was good nevertheless! It has the cheesecake texture and taste similar to Bruce canistel (the only other pouteria I've eaten) with perhaps a hint of nutmeg. Pretty good!

Mine in San Diego is also blooming now. None of my other pouterias are blooming though.

I had a Barbie Pink guava for a few years which I eventually threw away. The fruits were huge in size and were occasionally good but usually very bland. It got morning sun but not a lot of afternoon sun. I have found the "Sweet Kiss" variety, sold by Top Tropicals, to be much better. Those fruits are small but are usually sweet with a berry flavor, unique for guavas. I have also had very good Ruby x Supreme guavas from Exotica Nursery but haven't not yet grown my own fruit of that variety so it's not quite a fair comparison.

Agreed, I was just going to suggest sapodilla because the fruits do not look edible but are good and the tree is pretty resilient as long as it's watered decently.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can you eat avocado seeds?
« on: March 07, 2017, 02:43:09 PM »
Apple seeds have a small amount of cyanide in them. I've heard of one person with a weird compulsion to eat apple seeds who died from cyanide poisoning doing so, but he had to eat a whole cup of seeds. You can survive eating small quantities of poison but that doesn't mean you should. Why even ask if you can eat avocado seeds when there are so many actual edible seeds to eat instead?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Canistel fruit, maybe a favorite
« on: December 28, 2016, 06:32:17 PM »
You mean you cut off the tip of every branch? Does that encourage more branches for denser fruit production?

Here in CA you cannot bring (in) plants from out of state or even bring (in) fruits from out of state.
Both of these statements are incorrect; fruit from other states or overseas is sold in California all the time, and I have bought tons of plants from Florida nurseries. But for plants you need a certain certificate to be filed and attached to the package, and also the plant must not have been grown in the ground due to nematodes, plus other stipulations. Probably there are requirements for fruits/vegetables as well but I wouldn't know about that.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Canistel vs. Lucuma
« on: December 04, 2016, 10:13:28 PM »
OK but when did the fruit actually set (begin to grow out of the flowers)? For example surinam cherry ripens in about a month while sapodilla takes a year to ripen. My Ross set three months ago, meaning the tiny fruits began appearing out of the flowers back then, and I'm just curious how much longer it'll be until they're ripe.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Australian rainforest fruits
« on: December 04, 2016, 05:53:52 AM »
Syzygium paniculatum is grown as an ornamental around here sometimes. The fruits are pretty and technically edible but not worth eating.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Canistel vs. Lucuma
« on: December 04, 2016, 05:33:56 AM »
A bit off topic but how long does Ross Sapote usually take to ripen? My fruits set three months ago.

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