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2001
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Soursop (guanabana) or atemoya?
« on: August 05, 2017, 05:07:05 PM »
Depends on your zone, soursop won't take any cold less than 50f.

I found two old trees growing in the middle of LaBelle both with fruit on them last year?
It gets allot colder then 50F in LaBelle, it was 30F for 3 hours three years ago.
One of the trees is on the south side of an oak an one tree is out in the open.
I couldn't believe it.

2002
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Soursop (guanabana) or atemoya?
« on: August 05, 2017, 05:01:32 PM »
First fruit tree I have bought in 24 months....Was a Soursop yesterday at Bender's Grove. So I am prejudiced. Mr Bender told me he sells his soursop fruits for as much as $12/lb depending on supply and demand. People are flocking to (buying) soursop because its rep as being anti-cancer. I have no idea if this is true but will read up on it.

Have posted previously but at Western Beef in Boca Raton the soursop goes for 8$/lb and sells out in 45 minutes whenever they get in a shipment. People are so anti-cancer gaga over soursop that they will buy cosmetically crappy looking fruits because the inside is still intact///


The leaves are actually what is suppose to be beneficial not the fruit

2003
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Soursop (guanabana) or atemoya?
« on: August 05, 2017, 01:58:54 PM »
Both

If you are like me and considering 2, when you decide and plant one you won't be
happy until you end up planting the other? If you only have room for one try the fruit of different
types and see what you like more. Only you know what you will like the most.

2004
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Moved to Tallahassee
« on: July 30, 2017, 04:05:03 PM »
Justfruits and exotics is around the corner from you. I stopped by there once when I was coming back
from Georgia and was impressed. Very nice owners and incredible nursery. Also Ty Ty is not far away
probably less then 90 minutes. I visited there one day and they had a decent selection. At the time the
manager was offering deep discounts for cash deals? Check out the local nurseries!

2006
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jujubes in Florida
« on: July 30, 2017, 12:42:49 AM »
I have been told the only jujube worth growing in  Florida is the Thai giant or thornless jujube.
I tried about 6 types of Chinese jujube including the sugarcane and so far the only fruit I have ever
got are from my 2 thai giants which produce a ton of fruit around December. Just fruits is located in the
panhandle and much colder winters. My Chinese trees leaf out but don't have substantial branch growth.
I do have a So or contorted jujube and it is pushing  7' and a good looking tree but so far no fruit.
This year I had 3 different Chinese types flower at the same time but no fruit set. My brother married a
Chinese girl and was over there. They don't grow jujube in the warm south they grow it in the temperate
parts of the country. I am curious is anyone fruiting Chinese jujube in Florida? 

2007
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: HELP: Jujube tree problems
« on: July 25, 2017, 11:30:31 AM »
Some Jujube needs a pollinator to produce the most fruit. If the other types of jujubes flower at the same time
they would work. I have read there are some types that fruit at different times and their flowering may not
be at the same time which would inhibit the cross pollination. Jujube are very prolific producers and are being planted
in third world countries with poor soil and irrigation because they are not very demanding. Over watering may be
the cause of your soft fruit. I watered heavy one winter and the fruit ripened very quickly and I grow the Indian
thornless type and when the fruit turns brown it is not edible. The next year I watered much less and the fruit
still ripened in a very short window. There were 500 fruit all ripe in 7-14 days.   

2008
So when you say microclimate does that mean you don't have frost? I remember 2010 was very cold and
also many days in a row in the low 30s for me. I haven't had frost the past two winters but it was 30F for 3 hours
three years ago.

2009
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Planting near a canal
« on: July 24, 2017, 09:56:29 PM »
The canal is fresh water? Annona doesn't have deep roots but if the tree will have wet feet you may
need to plant on a mound? Does the canal flood ever?

2010
What zone are you in Central Floridadave?
I am in 9b and wondered if it gets too cold for Diamond river? So far fortune eye is flowering every year
for me. But I only got one cluster fruit set this year. The tree is finally getting some size this summer.
Koala flowered last year but not this year?

2011
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart Mango Tree On Ormus....
« on: July 24, 2017, 09:18:01 PM »
Have you tried this on any other trees besides mangos?
It's fun to try new methods but sometimes why reinvent the wheel? You said it takes 2 weeks to
"brew" 2gallons which = 256oz which you apply 1 oz per tree once a week? or 3X week?
How much does it cost to brew 2 gallons?
If you are really doing an experiment then you have to try it on one tree, one tree apply nothing and one tree
continue chemical fertilizer and presuming the three trees are exactly the same in health then you can compare the
results? What I end up doing is trying too many things and then I am never certain what is working. To this day
I am not sure what caused the leaf burn last fall, was it the worm poop or the fish emulsion or the reduction of water?
 Personally I haven't bought granular chemical fertilizer in over a year, I have been using super worm manure and
rabbit manure. I also use 20-20-20 root drench and foliar spray. My trees have never looked better and I have
had more fruit then ever this past year? I am astonished at how much people are spending on organic fertilizers
on this forum. I am also trying to spray molasses on my oranges and get away from imydacloprid. Not sure if
the molasses will keep the leaf minor under control or not yet.
Maybe you can become an ormus millionaire and start selling it by the gallon on this forum 

2012
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweet Tart Mango Tree On Ormus....
« on: July 23, 2017, 10:13:09 PM »
Have you given this concoction to any other plants besides your mango?

Mike

2013
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Calcium Helpful
« on: July 21, 2017, 11:53:31 AM »
I add eggshells to the base of my trees. I also add coffee grounds and tea grounds and banana peels.
Not sure how fast it works but I have been doing it for years. The eggshells break down fairly fast especially
if you go back and crush them in your hand after a few weeks of drying out.

2014
I use to catch brown basilisks in Miami over 25 years ago. They are primarily insectivores. They are part of the landscape
and are one of many new introduced species which are not going to disappear. They have a "Big" python hunting contest
every year and kill a couple hundred pythons from the Everglades. This is the biggest joke in the world. Pythons are here
to stay. I have heard that the pythons were accidently introduced from Hurricane Andrew but I saw pythons before the hurricane.
I use to work with reptiles and I made extra money catching mostly exotic species including Brown anole, Knight anole, Jamaican anole, Nile monitor, crested anole, bark anole, cane toad, basilisk, iguana, spiny iguana, veiled chameleon, Cuban tree frog, curly tail, agama, blind snake, and I am sure I am forgetting more. Iguanas are primarily herbivores but in the wild an iguana will forage. They don't typically strip a tree or plant and kill it. Squirrels do far more damage to fruit and they return every day. If it makes you feel better to kill a reptile, unfortunately irresponsible people have introduced them and there is no way to eradicate them. There is allot of fear associated with reptiles and with it goes tons of misinformation. Now there is a law about keeping large pythons without a permit, TOO LATE!

A good cold winter in the southern Everglades would wrap up the python problem.
The pythons/snakes sense the drop in the barometric pressure and hide before the cold front comes through and
unfortunately some of the pythons will go underground or maybe a stump and will be sheltered. Many years ago
it got down to 32F in Miami and there were iguanas falling out of trees and drowning in canals. It really severely
cut down on the population for a few years but it didn't eradicate them.

2015
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Too much sun for my young lychees?
« on: July 20, 2017, 06:44:32 PM »
are mango trees able to handle the full sun when grown in a lit garage for the first 2 months of their lifetime?
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I would gradually put trees in direct sunlight to avoid shock

2016
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Too much sun for my young lychees?
« on: July 20, 2017, 04:59:44 PM »
June 21st the sun is the brightest in the Northern hemisphere. Each day the days are slowly getting shorter and less intense but it is
still close to the peak of brightness. I had similar problems with white sapotes when they were young. I also used  shade cloth until the winter and then I took the cloth off. The trees had turned dark green and as the days got longer and the sun gradually got brighter the trees were able to handle the full sun their second year in the ground. I have got trees in the past from nurseries that were in greenhouses and put them in direct sun and shocked them. I even lost a mysore raspberry one time. Some trees are understory trees and can never handle full sun. Lychee is not and will be fine one day in full sun.

2017
I use to catch brown basilisks in Miami over 25 years ago. They are primarily insectivores. They are part of the landscape
and are one of many new introduced species which are not going to disappear. They have a "Big" python hunting contest
every year and kill a couple hundred pythons from the Everglades. This is the biggest joke in the world. Pythons are here
to stay. I have heard that the pythons were accidently introduced from Hurricane Andrew but I saw pythons before the hurricane.
I use to work with reptiles and I made extra money catching mostly exotic species including Brown anole, Knight anole, Jamaican anole, Nile monitor, crested anole, bark anole, cane toad, basilisk, iguana, spiny iguana, veiled chameleon, Cuban tree frog, curly tail, agama, blind snake, and I am sure I am forgetting more. Iguanas are primarily herbivores but in the wild an iguana will forage. They don't typically strip a tree or plant and kill it. Squirrels do far more damage to fruit and they return every day. If it makes you feel better to kill a reptile, unfortunately irresponsible people have introduced them and there is no way to eradicate them. There is allot of fear associated with reptiles and with it goes tons of misinformation. Now there is a law about keeping large pythons without a permit, TOO LATE!

2018
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: LSU purple fig air layer
« on: July 18, 2017, 11:44:18 PM »
I have had a LSU purple in the ground for 5 years. LOTS of mulch and organics no synthetic fertilizer.
I also have a white Tx Everbearing and Celeste in the ground for 6 years.  I did lose an Alma a
few years back but it never thrived and only lasted 1 year. 

2019
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Atemoya help please...
« on: July 17, 2017, 12:22:50 PM »
I have 3 different types including Lisa, Dream, and an Australian type I got from Fruitscapes. I am very impressed with the way
the trees are growing and I let the Lisa hold a couple fruit this year. Everything I read I would recommend the Dream for you because
it is suppose to be more cold hardy and you are 9b? I have read very good reviews about the taste, production and cold tolerance.
The reason I became interested in atemoya (aside from I want at least one of everything) is a girl told me how great her gefner was
doing and how much she appreciated the fruit. Everyone has their opinion on which tastes the best but since you are 9b the Dream is
suppose to be the most cold hardy

2020
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: July 16, 2017, 12:42:46 PM »
Your silas looks way better then two of mine that I have been meaning to prune.
You probably should cut the top off and all the longest branches cut around 12"
off. It will bush out and the long branches would snap anyway if fruit developed
out there? I pruned one of my three and it is starting to really look better. The
best looking sapodillas I have are two I grew from seed and I topped them early and now
they have nice round canopies.  I am always afraid to prune and in the end
I am glad I did. By the way your trees look great!

2021
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: LSU purple fig air layer
« on: July 14, 2017, 09:17:24 PM »
I live in Florida and the summer rain/humidity really damper the taste of the figs. I had a
very late crop of LSU gold last year that ripened in November. They had honey dripping out of the eye and
were the best figs I have ever eaten in my life. I ate a couple last week and its like a whole different fig
My LSU purple has been in the ground for 5 years and it is a very good fig for this area. Some summers it
has produced continuously all summer. Currently the cardinals have figured them out and are beating me to
the figs. I had a decent crop of celeste that has recently ripened and they are very sweet this year. I also
have a large crop of White Triana ripening and they are for the most part terrible. They are splitting even
though the guy I bought the cuttings from said they never split. I guess my strategy is if I grow about 10 different
kinds occasionally I will get good figs? When I eat a good fig they are so rich I can only eat a couple anyway.
Don't give up on the gold maybe as an experiment when mine gets bigger I will trim it in August and try to get a
late fall crop.

2022
sent pm 2 days ago?

2023
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rare jaboticaba dying .....
« on: July 13, 2017, 03:34:10 PM »
Two studies published in Nature last year cited evidence that overuse of neonicotinoid pesticides was harming bee populations. One of the studies found that bees were drawn to neonicotinoids, which are derived from nicotine, possibly similarly to how humans are attracted to nicotine. This means that bees may prefer a food source that harms their nervous system. from https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/jan/12/bayer-revises-position-extra-protections-for-bees-from-pesticides

Can't find the article talking about long range remanence of this product but this article explain that toxicity for bees remain for at least 1 year. https://pro.anses.fr/euroreference/Documents/ER11-METHODES-ResidusEN.pdf

So as I was answering to Luc, efficient product but not very Earth friendly...

Excuse me if Wikipedia said its true then it has to be true.
I don't see anywhere in that passage that says it is toxic to bees for multiple years after an application? I do see where it
says it takes 30-60 days to move through the tree. And where does it say it is more attractive
to bees then regular untreated flowers from citrus??? The forum members who are using this product
are applying it to trees that are in decline not trees that are flowering anyway?
Now humans are attracted to nicotine? Where did you read this?
When I go into a store my kids always head to the tobacco aisle, no they actually head to the legos.
Do legos have nicotine in them?
You continue to distort and embellish the facts, ok you are biased against this pesticide but why do you keep
distorting the facts. You also say you can't remember where you read it but the effects can last up to a year.
Up to a year is not Many years as you originally claimed or 30-60 days as the passage claims. You might as
well claim it last for decades. When the oranges are in full bloom How are bees more attracted to an odorless drug?

Don't believe everything you read


2024
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hardiness of Inga Edulis
« on: July 12, 2017, 09:41:38 PM »
I am in the same zone in Florida, but on the edge of 10a. I always put a thick layer of
mulch around my trees and water heavy on the days there will be a cold night. I just received
I. edulis seeds and I have got 2 other types growing also. I planned to put them on the North
edge of my trees to make a wall to break the cold? How did your tree handle the full sun or did
it get full sun as a small tree?

2025
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rare jaboticaba dying .....
« on: July 12, 2017, 07:38:12 PM »
Excuse me if Wikipedia said its true then it has to be true.
I don't see anywhere in that passage that says it is toxic to bees for multiple years after an application? I do see where it
says it takes 30-60 days to move through the tree. And where does it say it is more attractive
to bees then regular untreated flowers from citrus??? The forum members who are using this product
are applying it to trees that are in decline not trees that are flowering anyway?

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