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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing mangoes in a pool enclosure
« on: May 18, 2025, 09:10:22 AM »
If you have tile the copper can stain it. I think most of the fungal issues are if it’s warm and wet (ancathranose) or cool and dry powdery mildew, but please correct me if I am oversimplifying it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fun Surprise For Fruit Thieves?
« on: May 17, 2025, 01:54:18 PM »
You could attach a hose end sprayer to the sprinkler head. Not sure how well they draw up liquid if the hose is running for just a couple of seconds.

The bokashi leachate I get from my indoor fruit peel composter is a great liquid fertillizer but it has a a very strong kombucha type smell that is hard to get off your skin. It is also used as fertillizer so if you had it in your sprinkler to are just “feeding the soil” as opposed to “assaulting your enemies”.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing mangoes in a pool enclosure
« on: May 17, 2025, 01:47:08 PM »
The only thing with mangos is that hot humid air may be an issue for ancathranose. In my gh the mangos look healthiest in the driest locations. Citrus May be a better option as the humid air should keep the spider mites under control. The chlorine is in solution for saltwater so I don’t think it will be an issue after the chlorine the city adds to the water supply dissipates.

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In New Zealand they use it as hedgerows. It’s cool that it can be bird pollinated.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Yard 2022
« on: May 07, 2025, 08:20:59 AM »
Thanks for posting the updates. Super cool!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Q's about potted trees
« on: May 07, 2025, 08:18:33 AM »
Also if your pots are on a hard surface the water may not drain through the bottom very well. For my citrus in large pots (hate wet feet) I have large holes drilled in the side right at the base. To stop soil from pouring out I place a handfull of shredded cedar in front of the holes before I fill my pots with soil.

I know you aren’t supposed to do this, but I do have a couple of plants that do have saucers that they sit in, but they suck up the water within 6 hours after watering. Guava, jaboticaba, passionfruit and loquat work well with saucers for me (2” deep for a 30” tall pot). Citrus, cherimoya, mango do terrible.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zone 5 passionfruit experiments
« on: May 01, 2025, 07:57:20 PM »
No offence but I hope it tastes better than it looks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Organic scale control
« on: April 24, 2025, 05:35:25 AM »
Brian, lol I didn’t have my glasses on I thought that was a scale. There is a similar native one called a “twice stabbed” lady beetle that does is red scale and other pests . I collected a bunch of these a few years ago off my infested citrus when I used to take them outside. I was unsuccessful in keeping a population in my tiny gh over winter.

There is a lot of work going on with “integrated pest management” and agriculture (both indoors and out). It can be a bit of a rabbit hole once you start doing some reading. It’s based off sound experimental science, but starts to get a little pseudo-scientific when people apply it in practice.

It may be worthwhile to look at developing a insecticide free native habitat around your greenhouse so that during the summer native beneficial insects like the “twice stabbed” can help keep pests under control during the peak growing months. Spot treatments with oil and soap are still ok, but you may want to be selective with systemics.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Organic scale control
« on: April 23, 2025, 05:57:40 PM »
Yeah I found ones like that on my rose apple a couple of months ago. They don’t seem to be too aggressive yet.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Organic scale control
« on: April 22, 2025, 10:08:13 PM »
Brian, if the tree is dense with scale a single spray doesn’t work for me. That’s why I blast first with  a hose if it’s bad (hasn’t been in a while) and then use the 1%. When I spray everything gets covered, I spray in the evening or when I know it’s cloudy all day and I have had no issues with toxicity to the plants.

I think millet has lots of experience with this, I followed his advice.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Organic scale control
« on: April 21, 2025, 06:34:05 AM »
Tropicaltoba, do you have armored scale?  While soap and hort oil kill mealybugs and spidermites well, I found that even dangerously high doses of hort oil do not reliably kill adult armored red scale.  I experimented on some infested leaves and checked them under a microscope over the next few days.  The adults were still wriggling.

Brian,
I have 2 types of armored black scale, one small which used to be a huge problem on passionfruit and citrus. Proper fertigation and spray worked well. The other is a massive black scale that I’ve only found rarely on my rose apple.

No I haven’t seen a red one yet. What dose of oil do you use? I usually use 1%. I found when the plants were loaded the sprays didn’t work, used the hosenozzel to pretreat the trees first and moved them outside and the wasps cleaned them up (no ants) and then the oil. I also alternate with a canola oil prethyrin mix. There’s days I’m usually in the trees 3x/week pollinating so I keep on top of things with my soap spray bottle.

What trees are most bothered by the reds?


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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Spidermites!
« on: April 20, 2025, 07:55:48 PM »
Used them before in my greenhouse worked well, just gets pricey. Biggest thing for gh is proper humidity and temp, that has worked the best.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Organic scale control
« on: April 20, 2025, 07:50:31 PM »
I took millet’s advice and use a purified hort oil and a small (10L) backpack sprayer. Use 100ml of oil for my 250sq foot gh and only takes 20min. Works amazing for scale. I spray 3x a year. I also keep a high volume hand spray bottle with insecticidal soap for spot treatments of mealies and the 4 different scales I have found in my gh. Mealies seem to bounce back faster than the scale with the oil, but may also be easier to find.

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I don’t know about the genetics, but I can tell you from a flowering standpoint, if you grow it from a cutting it’ll flower as early as 4 months.

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Some of the public aren’t huge GMO fans for food. If it’s to stop the extinction of something like the American chestnut nobody seems to get upset (or at least they aren’t that vocal about it). Just curious where all these Island of Dr. Moreau questions are coming from? This is the second one today?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Hand pollinating longan tricks?
« on: April 11, 2025, 07:00:01 AM »
I have no insects in my greenhouse, any tricks with hand pollinating longan?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical fruit bush options
« on: April 09, 2025, 05:20:44 PM »
Sounds like u already have the best stuff, just let them get bigger

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical fruit bush options
« on: April 09, 2025, 07:37:16 AM »
How about a true mangosteen, this sounds like the perfect environment?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: suggested medium for container growing
« on: April 08, 2025, 09:02:55 AM »
Just a heads up, I’m not sure if feijoia is as bullet proof as other guavas when repotting and root pruning. I had about 50% dieback of a mammoth feijoia when I repotted it and did an aggressive root prune during the winter. I had already cut back 1/3 of the green growth so there wouldn’t be transpiration stress, but there was significant death of 1/2 of the trunk. It now looks terribe.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical fruit bush options
« on: April 08, 2025, 08:53:21 AM »
Cattley guava is bonzaiable, pretty with peeling bark and glossy foliage, greenhouse pest immune and fruits and flowers continuously. The fruit is superior to ruby supreme guava, but in my opinion that doesn’t mean much.

Only problem is Caribbean fruit fly which lays maggots in the fruit. I don’t know much about the habitat in which it grows. It I know it is an issue for some parts of Florida.

Is your room isolated from outside? I think it would be worth to try.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Zone 5 passionfruit experiments
« on: April 07, 2025, 06:57:22 PM »
Looks beautiful.

So I took a cutting off my purple back in January, currently only 5’ long and already setting flower buds. Do your uncommon varieties flower so soon from seed? I assume it’s just like all grafted trees that flower sooner.

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It all depends on how committed you are. The English used to overwinter them in hot compost bins. I haven’t gone through the old threads but perhaps someone has tried.

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I had the same dilemma a couple of years ago. Luckily for me I had 2 young 2.5ft tall potted Pickering. It did eventually produce a full sized and delicious fruit. I really haven’t noticed much difference between the growth habit of the one which bore the fruit and the one that didn’t. They grow really slow in containers.

Wow, literally the same dilemma, size and all, lol. Really appreciate it. I guess that means I'm gonna let the tree do its thing and see what happens. 8)

It may not have been the right thing to do, but I’m gonna be the little red guy on your shoulder and post this…



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I had the same dilemma a couple of years ago. Luckily for me I had 2 young 2.5ft tall potted Pickering. It did eventually produce a full sized and delicious fruit. I really haven’t noticed much difference between the growth habit of the one which bore the fruit and the one that didn’t. They grow really slow in containers.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cacao Fruit
« on: April 04, 2025, 04:44:19 PM »
I had a good fresh one in Costa Rica many years ago. The flesh was fine but not something I would eat on a regular basis. Has anyone tried making their own chocolate?

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