Author Topic: Is it worth growing Fredrick Passion Fruit from seed?  (Read 878 times)

djseaquist

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Is it worth growing Fredrick Passion Fruit from seed?
« on: April 20, 2025, 12:13:56 AM »
I recently bought some Fredrick Passion Fruit (Passiflora edulis) seedlings for a good deal. However, I heard Fredrick Passion Fruit is a hybrid that is not very true to seed.

What has been your experience?

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Re: Is it worth growing Fredrick Passion Fruit from seed?
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2025, 09:38:19 AM »
I don’t know about the genetics, but I can tell you from a flowering standpoint, if you grow it from a cutting it’ll flower as early as 4 months.

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Re: Is it worth growing Fredrick Passion Fruit from seed?
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2025, 10:54:30 AM »
Growing a seedling or 2 of what is probably a Frederick. Seeds came out of fruit from a commercial grower. I have been happy with production and moreso with fruit quality, although I am not sure which vine is which; a few seedlings of "red" and "purple" intermingled all over a hedge. One of them makes yellowish pink fruit.  I also have a Frederick vine, sold as cutting of the OG. It took over a year to flower and fruit, and is now getting going about 3+ years post planting in-ground. Have had mixed results growing passiflora seedlings, but nothing awful has happened. 

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Re: Is it worth growing Fredrick Passion Fruit from seed?
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2025, 11:01:09 AM »
Lifted this from Chatgpt4o:

What Happens If You Grow 100 'Frederick' Seeds?

Outcome Category   Estimated %   What You'll See
Good-to-excellent fruit   ~30–40%   Similar size, taste, and productivity to 'Frederick'
Better fruit than parent   ~5–10%   Occasionally sweeter, bigger, or more disease-tolerant
Worse fruit   ~50–60%   Smaller fruit, poor pulp, inferior flavor, or weak productivity
Poor growth/no fruit   ~5–10%   Weak vines, late flowering, or sterile flowers
🧠 This variation is due to cross-pollination in the original parent plant or recessive traits in the seed genetics.
✅ Key Points to Know:
Some plants may flower but never fruit, especially if they end up male sterile or aren’t self-fertile like the parent.
Some seedlings will produce sour or bland fruit.
A few may surpass 'Frederick' — worth keeping an eye on!
To preserve a winning vine, you’d take cuttings (not save seeds).
🧪 Want to Improve Your Odds?
Germinate more than you need, and cull based on early vigor and leaf shape
Once they fruit (~12–18 months), taste test and select the best
Clone your favorites via cuttings or air-layering
Would you like a guide to identifying strong passionfruit seedlings early on, or info on how to clone the best ones once they mature?

Who knows how accurate the #'s are, but the gist of it makes sense.

« Last Edit: April 20, 2025, 11:02:47 AM by roblack »

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Re: Is it worth growing Fredrick Passion Fruit from seed?
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2025, 11:31:17 AM »
All of my vines came from seeds of commerical fruit and the fruit is decent. My newest vine which is a seedling from my older edulis produces sweeter fruit than the parent so there is definitely potential for improved fruit. I guess the fruit could be "worse" but I haven't experienced that yet

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Re: Is it worth growing Fredrick Passion Fruit from seed?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2025, 01:52:30 PM »
Fredrick is not a difficult to find variety.  Rooting from cutting is not that difficult.  Why trying from seed?  Unless you are trying to get a new and improve ones. 


 

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