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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Feijoa in NJ zone 7a
« on: November 23, 2022, 12:08:28 PM »
Waitied until fragrant, about 3 days since picked. Opened a softer one this morning, the outside of the fruit smells medicinal and almost like mothballs or some kind of cleaner it's a familiar scent? Tried the inside jelly with the flesh, sweet and floral. Tried the whole fruit with the skin, very nice sour and sweet combo. I don't mind the skin at all atleast on whatever this variety is it's good. So while I did pick them before they dropped off the bushes, they were mature enough that they are able to ripen inside after a few days.

Freshly cut. Are they supposed to be more yellow? It did turn a little yellow after oxidizing. 

Gave another ripe one to my father who hasn't had a feijoa in 50 years since leaving Uruguay, he enjoyed it!

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Feijoa in NJ zone 7a
« on: November 23, 2022, 12:01:42 PM »
Good to hear that they can take multiple days below freezing in the single digits. Did they flower and fruit after that 9f winter? 

We have 3 fiejoas in the ground that endured 9F for close to 4 days with steady 15 or so mph wind most of the time. No damage. They are tough. D

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Makrut lime
« on: November 22, 2022, 06:24:56 PM »
I liked the juice in ramen and over tacos. Try not to get the oils from the peel when you squeeze it or it will taste like kerosene

not to hijack this thread but which ground cherries are good in zone 7a, are they perennial? i've grown a large annual one that when ripe were OK one year, pineapple flavor, but then got infested with potato beatle or some similar bug the next year. do the zone 7 ground cherries come back from the root system in the spring?

I'm pretty sure my jiro fuyu is grafted to American persimmon so yes

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Feijoa in NJ zone 7a
« on: November 19, 2022, 01:24:19 PM »
Update: Fruit is mature.

I went to check the fruit today Nov 19th, gave each of them a gentle shake and they popped off cleanly! Would have dropped on their own probably in a couple of days. There were a couple even smaller ones that would not come off the tree so those will not mature in time. Because of the upcoming deep freeze I didn't want to risk damaged fruit if the protection was not sufficient.  I cut open one of the mature ones while still hard, there was clear jelly inside and fully developed seeds, flavor was slightly sweet but mostly sour. I ate the skin too and enjoyed it. At this stage it reminded me of an unripe/hard tropical guava (green skin white fleshed variety) but with better flavor.

I believe I have two different varieties based on the texture of the fruit the 2nd row from the other bush shows more pebbled skin. I did cross and self pollinate but forgot to label which ones were crossed I assume bigger ones are crossed.

I will leave these on the counter until they get soft and post a picture of the interior.

Those grafts can take even now, I've done them with 3 different mandarins and tangerines with stem from the grocery store fruit
around this time as well just make sure they are warm and have enough light. They will turn black or mold if they were not fresh enough

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Feijoa in NJ zone 7a
« on: November 15, 2022, 02:12:31 PM »
The covered feijoas with fruit did not freeze this morning everything else not covered like the leaves on fig trees are frosted and damaged.

This is just heating from the lights on at 35f/1.66c off at 45f/7.22c:

outside temp:

inside temp:

So the fabric does provide a good amount of frost protection with heating. I might be able to leave the fruit past the date I planned. We'll see.
I hope my lazy experimenting is helpful to anyone thinking about zone pushing feijoas esp if the fruit does not ripen sooner like on my trees

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Feijoa in NJ zone 7a
« on: November 15, 2022, 02:02:34 PM »
this morning Nov 2022:

last year before losing leaves:

Plants didn't really grow taller. I completey neglected them, did not even water during drought. They are a little wider than last year, the trunks are more covered with foliage.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Feijoa in NJ zone 7a
« on: November 15, 2022, 01:18:51 AM »
Vnomonee, i am curious what happened to your feijoas that were planted next to the house? Any news on those, couldnt find an update on them in your tread.

The ones by the shed grew back new leaves after dropping everything but didn't flower, those were smaller than my potted plants so still can't say if they will flower after taking that much cold. I'll take a picture tomorrow

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Feijoa in NJ zone 7a
« on: November 14, 2022, 06:13:59 PM »
Updated forecast if they are not ripe by Nov 20th I'm picking them off and testing if they will ripen at all inside on the kitchem counter. The fruit actually grew more since the last picture, doesn't help with figuring out what variety it is but I'm assuming bigger fruit takes longer to ripen.

I have them covered with fabric now that still lets light in plus the christmas lights for heat which keeps it above freezing. Nov 20th is hard freeze in the low 20s /-6.6. Fruit freezes at 28f / -2.22. Don't think my lights will keep the trees and fruit above the freezing point, it only adds a few degrees of heating.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Feijoa in NJ zone 7a
« on: November 11, 2022, 12:10:30 PM »
Nothing ripe yet. I carefully planted them in the ground,  they were very root bound despite being up potted in the spring. I have no room for such a big evergreen plant in my grow tent this year. If nothing is ripe by Nov 17th I will have to cover them and heat with incandescent Christmas lights, night temps will start dropping below 30f read somewhere the fruit freezes at 28f and will be damaged. Since this variety is not named I'm not sure if the fruit is just late ripening or if being root bound and water starved slowed the growth of the fruit vs in the ground. 

crappy screenshot of a video I took

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Poncirus+ x kumquat
« on: November 03, 2022, 02:53:24 PM »
Taitriquat is a great idea. It could produce a lemonquat type of fruit depending on if x nagami or x meiwa. Would need to be early ripening. Thomasville doesn't ripen in zone 7 before hard freezing from what I've seen online but can be used as a lime while green. Taitri is probably hardier than whatever citrange was used to make Thomasville, it has survived in my zone 7 as of now including 6f freezing rain. Will have to see how it does at 0f.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Feijoa in NJ zone 7a
« on: November 01, 2022, 09:30:16 PM »
Not yet, have not been frosted either. Hoping they ripen this coming week there will be warm weather.

A picture of one the fruits last week, its actually gotten a little bigger since then. Between both potted plants I have a total of 15 fruit. If you look up "raregrowsNJ" on youtube I have a video showing how the fruit and the plants look right now.

same fruit, swelling up now:

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Poncirus+ x kumquat
« on: October 31, 2022, 03:23:27 PM »
I pollinated a meiwa, nagami, and a hindsii kumquat, after removing the anthers on the flowers, with  dried poncirus+ pollen. I also pollinated a yuzu with the pollen. I have a fruit holding on each kumquat except hindsii, it dropped all the fruit. The yuzu is also holding some fruit which is now starting to ripen. Unless those flowers were wind or insect pollinated I might have hybrids. I would love a zone 7 kumquat even if the taste isn't great it can be used for further breeding.

thanks, I think I'm going to add a few more bricks and then put some frost cloth over the whole thing. Some light will still get through the frost cloth

Here is an update from the inground seeds planted in May.
Very slow growth, the stem doesn't look woody yet, hope it does soon before frosts.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: My Ichang lemon pics 10/24/22
« on: October 24, 2022, 08:06:20 PM »
Very nice fruit. How long do these take to ripen, are they from spring flowers?

Poncirus X C. Unshiu sounds a lot like Prague Citsuma / Prague Chimera especially with that hardiness

I grow edulis in 3 gallon pots, after fruiting I cut them back my oldest plant is 3 years old, very root bound, will need an up-pot or I can just get rid of it and grow a new plant via cutting which I did already. I grow them with a tomato cage so I can wrap the vines around when it's time to bring the plants in. I also grew a banana passion fruit for 3 years but that one never flowered. I pruned it too hard this year and it died to the base but has since resprouted. Maypop is in the ground and comes back every year. Fruit is ok, I defintely like edulis better.

Welcome to the forum :)

I grow some subtropicals and tropicals in containers as well in zone 7, just remember that dips into 25f in the ground is not the same as dips to 25f while the plant is containerized since the roots are exposed to cold air temperature vs in the ground which would be warmer. I will start bringing those plants in within the next week or so.

As for getting citrus specifically on that rootstock, some nurseries have a special order option (Madison Citrus comes to mind None of my grafted plants that I've ordered online from other sources have come in on flying dragon or trifoliate, I've had them come on carizzo, srs mandarin, and us-1284, or as cuttings on own roots.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: My trifolate orange has red vein down the middle
« on: September 28, 2022, 07:06:07 PM »
Graft of fast flowering trifoliate on tai-tri also showing red on single leaf, graft acting independantly of root stock?

Can anyone chime in on I am wondering if the grafted scion of a deciduous citrus will go dormant even if the root stock doesn't? The inverse, in a colder climate how does this work say on a loquat (evergreen) grafted to a quince (deciduos)? I also have a Prague Chimera graft on this tai-tri.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora tripartita (var. molissima?)
« on: September 28, 2022, 01:36:18 PM »
I don't know if this helps but I've just remembered was able to root a molissima cutting, in water with rooting hormone.  I don't remember the specifics but I am sure I did not remove the leaves as I don't do this with my other passion vines and it was a green vine not a woody vine. I sent that cutting to a friend back in 2020 who lives in Florida and the vine ended up dying from the heat. I did the rooting in my grow tent under LED 12 hours on and 12 off, it's humid in the tent so they don't dry out. I bet if you leave it in water it will eventually root. I will look through my photos to see if I have anything saved, I did send the friend some pictures before I shipped some random rooted cuttings to her which included the molissima. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passiflora tripartita (var. molissima?)
« on: September 26, 2022, 08:38:48 PM »
How long did it take for yours to flower? My seeds were labeled molissima but can't know for sure what came up after 3 years and never flowered, just made small leaves. This year I pruned it to 3 vines out of the huge tangled mess it became, too agressively I suppose, and it died back all the way to the down to the surface of the pot. It resprouted from the roots: sorry for crappy picture it's from a video

I've rooted maypop and edulis vines in water, just cut the stem at an angle, scratch a little off the sides dipped in rooting hormone, and put in the shade. They root in water just fine, then transplant into soil after a month or so. I should have made a backup of the molissima.

Thanks franklazar26, highly recommended :)

top worked on trifoliate seedling

self rooted

t-bud on citrange, even made a flower

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