The Tropical Fruit Forum

Yes. I thought 1500.00 for a week in the Amazon with all room, food, and board and transportation including airfare and a couple side excursions along with the company of two South American fruit experts and a novice(me) along with 4 local guided jungle hikes and an interpreter and all the Amazon fruit you can eat would be enough. Guess not.
Will not be offering fruit tour expeditions.

that sounds around what I would expect, and the extra $$ is definitely worth it to make the most of the trip..

Wow! Congratulations on your jabo, that is so exciting!  Will be fun to see how it develops.  So cool to see the growth you're getting on your red and grimal grown hydroponically.

Janet

Thanks Janet! The red was so fun until I neglected it super hard and let the water level get to 0 for multiple days in a row

Now its in a state of what I call plinia shock, something I've experienced multiple times now especially when transferring seedlings from soil-like mediums to hydroponic (specifically water based mediums), essentially the seedling or even 'tree' will become 'frozen/dormant', slowly losing all its leaves and appearing to be dead (green bark still) for anywhere from 3 to 6+ months, at this stage the tree will either fully die or make an insane comeback where it hits a super vigorous growth-streak, almost making up for the lack of growth. I'll have to try to show examples of this later for the interested parties haha.

The hydro red was moved out of my tent due to the shock (I tried many things from nutrient changes to root pruning/actual pruning for many months) it was still frozen, so it sits by my office window now getting 1-2 hours of sun + just 'light'. Its still holding most of its foliage since the last prune and the roots are just sitting in non-aerated nutrient solution. It could be another 3-6 months until it either dies or wakes back up.

Cut that silly fruit off and grow that tree out a bit more.  Start grafting it out on some sabara rootstock, give it a name like “aberration” or “abnormality”, make a few videos, then rake in that sweet $$$$. 
Seriously though, it would be a shame to lose the genetic lottery because the plant died trying to hold one fruit at a mere 22 months.

I can grow red and likely grimal jaboticaba to 2-3' in 1-2 years hydroponically (with aeration etc), this one (at least for the first year or so) wasn't aerated but still barely grew for the time span it has lived, if it dies trying to hold the fruit it was going to die regardless.

I have my doubts on the genetic factor part of it. If it was genetics I'd say this is the most rare jabo in the world? Who else has fruited a jabo at 8"

It might look like photoshop but I promise it isn't!

What you’re looking at is a hydroponic fruiting grimal jaboticaba. Only 1.8 years from seed.



Refer to this instagram link for my full post including a small video of the roots: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cq6wmuWpRDW/

I'll try to update this thread as long as I don't forget my password again, I'll probably make a youtube video soon as well.

Would these be shipping from Hong Kong?

Yes, from Asia in some regards.. would be tough to get them to HI but they've made it to the states many times already - just look at the insane eBay auctions recently, those grafted plants are imports

Your best bet is probably hitting up Nate @ wildlandsplants, he has an account on here as well, maybe search for it.

Great selection.  What is the secret with getting that beach sugar apple a good size?  Some of you guys are wizards.
 Mine is basically doing nothing here in California.

I'm in CA too, while I am not growing that annona, I can tell you the 'trick' to getting good growth rates for most of these specimens is to emulate similar scenarios such as where the 'wizards' live aka FL/HI.

Nothing outside grows as fast as it does inside my grow tent, where the temps are consistently high and humidity is decent + year round feeding, now tack on the fact that the tropical folks get lots of nutritious rain water as well....

Amazon Tree Grape is the one that kinda tastes like wintergreen right, I had some at Joe's, they're tasty.. I suspect not hardy to under zone 11 though?

Hilo Farmer's Market can be horrible.  They know the tourists won't try the fruit till they get back to their hotel and realize they.  Lying to me telling me the durian is musang king when it's just monthong.  Selling unripe marang as pedalai. 
Selling stolen fruit in some cases. 

I'd buy the vegetables and common fruits...but when it gets to the pricier/higher regarded stuff, know what you're looking at.

Don't forget the imported stuff at/from Costco lolol.. many disingenuous sellers at the farmers markets..

Edulis, unknown cultivar

99% chance its feuillei*

Hey Scott,

I haven't grafted Lucuma but I've talked to Ben Porier, another SoCal CRFG member, and Reedo on the forum (who has given me a grafted plant he succeded with). 
Ben mentioned that you have to wait until you start to see buds forming and getting ready to push before selecting the scion for grafting. I also heard this from that other SoCal CRFG member.  Reedo grafted them in mid-late summer and was successful with about 3 out of 5 plants (I think). He cleft grafted these plants and tried to do a side graft as well but that did not take.   I'm probably going to try and attempt some grafts this spring/early summer and see how it goes.  I've got an airlayered plant and a seedling that started flowering. 

Have a good one Scott!

You had success air layering? Someone with a tree told me they tried for years to get theirs to take with no dice.

I've seen them thriving and fruiting here in south OC, with more of an understory setup.