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So the chill from late December and this past week has started the mango flowering in my yard, Yay!.  There is only one problem, I can't find one fly in my yard.  This would usually be a very pleasing condition but I could use some good mango pollinators right now (or perhaps in two weeks).

I am starting to think I have to go get some fish carcass to strategically place in my yard (so I wont smell it unless the wind blows in the wrong direction).

I expect I will just wait and see if they arrive with the mature panicles.

For those of you in south Florida, what pollinator(s) are you seeing?  Is the temperature right to have decent pollination?  Any strategies or hints on attracting mango pollinators?

By the way, I do have some bees buzzing around and one or two may stray on to a mango but the flies in the past are the major mango pollinators in my yard.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / All this rain in California
« on: January 13, 2023, 11:10:56 PM »
Hope you are all doing OK

Is this atmospheric river a drought buster?  Looking for a silver lining.

Follow up to my post "How cold will it get in your part of Florida in the next week" 

I believe my low was 37 (though it might have been a degree colder.)  I don't know for how long.  It was about 41 for the lows by the third night and progressively warmer since.

Most plants  that I left outdoor did OK.  Mango all look fine so far, avocado also.  Jaboticaba also look just fine.  Guava too early to tell, atemoya and sugar apples were looking scraggly before the cols and continue to look the same.

Seeing some leaf turning brown on Soursop (one variety that in the past showed some cold tolerance again appears unimpacted).  Ice Cream beans also had some leaves turning brown.   

Jupiter Florida in northern Palm Beach County, is supposed to see low in the 30s and 40s.  A cold start to the winter and the coldest Christmas in a while.

What are you expecting and what are your plans for protecting your plants (or not)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Does anyone need foxtail palm seeds
« on: November 27, 2022, 03:07:07 PM »
I have a number of foxtail palms that are flowering fruiting dropping fruits and germinating if not cleared quickly enough.
It is a weed and it takes some work getting rid of of the fruits under the tree.
Today, the tree has flowers with bees visiting, small fruits, larger fruits and mature fruits about ready to start coloring up. 
Wish my mango would hold fruit like that.  :)

If anyone is interested I will be happy to have them be useful somewhere instead of ending up on my curb for the landfill.

Is there anything these seeds are useful for or could be used for?  Would be a shame to be tossing these if someone can use it or there is a beneficial use for it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Can you please help ID this plant
« on: October 21, 2022, 09:27:12 PM »
I have this plant growing out of a pot in which I planted a couple of annonas.

I don't know what it is and don't know if I should report to preserve it or toss so it doesn't outcompete the annona.


I have a few scions of K3 that I will be happy to ship to you on Monday but you pay shipping.
Shipping and handling (by USPS priority mail) is $10 only to US destinations please.

If you are interested PM me. 

These scions are thick (sharpie size on average) so consider your root stock before asking.

You will get 4 or 6 scions (depending on how many requests I get)

I know you are likely doing more important things than grafting mango right now.
However, if you are up to grafting PSM or K3, I will ship a couple of scions free (Including shipping on me) to a couple of people in Lee County Florida.  Cost to you, time to send me a PM with a name and address.

Let me know if you want only PSM or only K3 or both.  Ask on behalf of a friend if they are too busy to be on the forum and you can talk to them to confirm they have something to graft to. 

I have a few spares and will be happy to share.   Offer ends on Sunday night so I can ship Monday.

This was my initial post, look at the new (next post) one below.

What should I call this?

My Beverly mango has been totally confused this year.  It flowered and set very few fruits but that was not totally unexpected because it did well last year and tends to take a year off (at least in my assessment).
What has been strange is that every month this year I have found one or two flower panicles on this tree. 

I cut off some branches that were low hanging and some that were shading out a graft I put on a part of the tree and when I moved the branches to the road side, guess what, either a late flower or and early flower. 

Any suggestions on how to make it calm down until January or February when it can flower all it wants and try to set fruit?



To those who will be trying this, good luck and hope in a few years you are talking about the fruit.

Had a Hog Plum tree knocked over by wind (fringe of Ian) and I am stumping it (will try to upright the stump to see if it survives.)

I have lots of cuttings for anyone who want some.  It is free but you have to come get it or pay for shipping.
I understand thick cutting an inch or more across work best so I am making a few of those but if you tell me what you want (up to 2 or 3 inch thickness) I may be able to save you some before these end up by the roadside enroute to the dump.
US addresses only please - cant do international shipping with these.  No one will be happy.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Unprepped scions - K3 and PSM
« on: September 03, 2022, 11:20:50 AM »
Very limited time offer.  Ends Tuesday 6th.

I will be removing wood from a vigorous Kathy and Pim Sen Mun.  Some of the branches are just beginning to flush so I expect there will be some with swollen buds and some that may be likely to flush soon.

If you are interested (only these two varieties please) let me know.

It will set you back $4 each, no more than 10 of each per person and $10 in shipping.


What are the characteristics or identifying traits of a butterscotch sapodilla?

... and if the fruit is the only tell, what does that look like and how does it differ from other large sapodillas?

Can I start annona seeds in Florida in early summer without a humidity dome?
Also, in your experience must I start them under shade?

I ask because some of my successful seeds starts were from seeds I had given up because they seemed to fail to germinate and stopped caring for.  I later found that unprotected and on their own, they had sprouted, competed with weeds in the pot and were holding on.

Will a humidity dome improve my chances? or is it best only in our dry season?

I am putting out shade cloth today but don't want to adversely impact some of my germinating seeds which are pushing without shade but are about ready to be hit by our summer sunshine (without the the daily rain yet)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Can you please help identify this plant
« on: May 22, 2022, 10:14:58 AM »
Can anyone tell from these pictures what this plant might be?
The leaf damage is from hail that we got a week or so ago.

The last two days have been terrible for my already poor mango season.

Yesterday we had hail stones and moderate winds, dropped a few fruits.  Not too bad.
Today heavy rain with vicious winds, somewhat localized, broke a branch of my Choc Anon loaded with fruits.  So a poor year even poorer.

I will take the rain though it has been dry the last several months.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / How rare or common is this
« on: May 02, 2022, 07:51:13 PM »
I was out in the yard and saw four petals on an atemoyas.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Mango scions available
« on: April 22, 2022, 09:26:18 PM »
Available in the next day or two only.

I gave a grafting demo and have more scions than I need.
I have some scions of Carrie, Mallika, Choc anon, M4 available.
I hope they can find good homes, if you are interested let me know (PM me). 

Will cost you shipping (USPS priority).

M4 is all gone.

Check your PM to confirm you have a tracking number if you sent me shipping.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Separate and transplant soursop seedling
« on: April 21, 2022, 08:47:33 PM »
I planted several seeds in the same pot and many (abut 10) germinated and grew past the dreaded 6 inch (dreaded for me because at about that height I tend to lose many annona seedlings to wilt or rabbits).
I could pull some leaving two plants in the pot but I would like to retain as many as I can.  Is there a good age for separating soursop seedlings?  I will need to repot soon anyway but separating will disturb the roots much more.

All input appreciated.

I started several seeds of cherimoya, custard apple, sugar apple and atemoyas, plus some mystery annonas seeds from past seasons.  I wasn't expecting much and planned on using them for rootstock.
One plant pushed well and really looked good so I set it aside.  Today it was the victim of kids playing and was snapped in two.  I will try to nurse the stump but wondered if anyone can suggest what this might be from the leaf which is unusual and unlike any of the others that germinated.

Some extra info
The seedling held leafs through our winter, but that may be because it's in a pot close to the house and was brought indoors for the coldest nights
It was about 18 inches tall when it met it's Waterloo at the hands of a errant volleyball.
The leaves are deep green and roundened.
No felt on the underside but soft and smooth to the touch on the upper side.

All suggestions welcomed.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Annona seed borer in Cherilata
« on: February 09, 2022, 05:19:59 PM »
Do any of you have experience of annona seed borer in Cherilata fruit?

I have some fruit on a grafted branch that have the telltale holes (adult emergence holes).
I had not bagged the fruit (wish now that I had), and I see the holes in 3 of 5 fruit.

If any of you have the experience, is there some way of discouraging this pest from staying in my yard?  Or do I have to bag my annonas from this point on?

Citrus General Discussion / How to bring a neglected citrus tree back
« on: December 18, 2021, 03:43:01 PM »
I had several citrus trees and ended up losing some of them over the years.  I am left with 3 trees that have survived just about everything from hurricane and mild freeze (a couple of hors at least twice in their lifetime of about 10 years) to sheer neglect (little or no fertilizer or pesticide); I wasn't going for organic, just expected they would be affected by citrus greening or some disease and have to be removed.  Well, they haven't.  They are not special varieties, just whatever I got from homedepot and planted at the time.

I am motivated to rejuvenate these tress and wondered if there was a care regime, nutrition watering pruning etc. for citrus that I should use as a guide.  My decision came after a visit from IFAS researcher who was sampling for bugs in the neighborhood and informed me they were healthy, just poorly cared for.  Needed some fertilizer and pruning to remove deadwood and some bad branches growing straight up.  They make fruits now but I believe will make more and better fruit with a little TLC.

I will appreciate any input.

My best guess on the varieties in case it matters, Hamlin, Navel and HoneyBell.


Amazon has Osmocote Smart-Release Plant Food Plus Outdoor & Indoor, 8 lb for $11.
I am not sure it will be this price for long so get a bag if you use it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Osteen Mango - as a late variety
« on: September 05, 2021, 01:42:05 PM »
I have an Osten that fruited for the first time this year, held on to about 6 (into the last week of August) of which I got 3 and the critters got the rest.
I enjoyed the fruit, we had the last one today, and I wondered if any of you have experience with Osteen and would like to share your thoughts.  Do you notice any aftertaste?

For me it is one of my late season collections and this year only Beverly and Keitt held fruit longer.

I will like to read your thoughts on this variety.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Cherilata Fruit Pictures - please
« on: August 31, 2021, 12:33:01 PM »
I am interested in seeing what a Cherilata fruit looks like from just formed to ready to pick.
If you have pictures could you kindly share or point me to a link.  I have a couple of Cherilata plants that seem to be doing well (on pond apple rootstock) and I want to know what the fruit looks like.

I have several flowers and one fruit from a previous flowering.

I will post a picture later. 

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