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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Seed Drop: Amazonas, Pouteria, Theobroma, Plinia, and a bunch of other goodies
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Keeping doing what you do Hapa Joe!
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I'm no millionaire, dont insult me 😆 🤣 😂 I sweat like 6-600 shirts a day in the summer for these bill/taxes.
You already own your property. Buying it now you have to be rich.
Your best bet would be to buy an empty lot that is "scrub jay". It's going to be dirt cheap, because you can't build on it without paying through the nose. The property must be kept wilderness to preserve the bird. You could still plant a garden on it so long as you left it in a relatively wild state. I don't think you are supposed to chop down any large oaks. Theoretically it should stay pretty desolate as scrub land is mostly sand dunes and grass with a few trees on it. The bird needs the open grassy area.
You could camp on the land and plant some mango trees or whatever it is you want. I bought a lot online trying to do this and it had no road, just dirt trails and the neighbor attacking me and chasing me off my own property (which he did to everyone who bought property there) and the police wouldn't help me. So beware of those type of scams too.
I just feel it isn't worth the huge expense. You can just grow stuff in pots or use a greenhouse. If you buy land in the Florida panhandle or southern Alabama or something and build a cheap greenhouse- it's only going to get cold a handful of days out of the year. Most of the time you could just open the green house up.
Knowing everything you've learned, where in florida would you live in order to grow sub-tropical fruits without covering for cold. So take into account soil, hurricane damage, water etc. I just want to grow jabos, mangoes, eugenias and such without a greenhouse. And I don't want to live in a big city. The country is great.
I am a 5th gen Floridian and have lived from Land O Lakes in Pasco County, to Placida in Charlotte County. To your question I would suggest that a great location would be east/northeast of Punta Gorda, east of 17 rural and quiet, homesite acreage available.
I live in Miami near Homestead and the whole Miami area is very crowded. Even Homestead is very crowded. Yes there are farms/fields/groves, but it's still a very busy area and the city area of Homestead is very busy as well. The quality of life here isn't good but the weather is amazing.
Jaboticaba, I know last year was horrible but overall is Miami/Homestead still too far south to get good mango blooms? Summer 2021 was still a great year for mangoes, I had many Glenn & Pickering mangoes.
Why do you say quality of life is no good? Seems like lots of good food can be grown, excellent recreation , multi cultural society. What is not to like?
If it's not very busy, your'e in the sticks and not much of anything happening surrounded by all the same ol same ol.I live in Miami near Homestead and the whole Miami area is very crowded. Even Homestead is very crowded. Yes there are farms/fields/groves, but it's still a very busy area and the city area of Homestead is very busy as well. The quality of life here isn't good but the weather is amazing.
Jaboticaba, I know last year was horrible but overall is Miami/Homestead still too far south to get good mango blooms? Summer 2021 was still a great year for mangoes, I had many Glenn & Pickering mangoes.
South Floridians have their challenges maybe not as Extreme as The Californians but I would say invasive species fungal resistance aging infrastructure and lots of people. Other than where I live I find the Lake Wales ridge area to be beautiful. Higher elevation possibly less Frost
Surest way to avoid the worst impacts of a hurricane is to not be near the coast, waterways connected to the coast, in a trailer, or in the midst of a bunch of tall trees.
Mangoes are probably the most cold sensitive of the fruits listed. How far north are people growing without cold troubles, and what varieties fare best?
I liked Merritt Island and the surrounding area when living in Melbourne for a few years. Good surf, great restaurants, and beautiful ecosystems. Vero may have some cool areas to grow, more inland. Will ask my friends near Okeechobee and Clewiston how the fruit trees are holding up and producing. West Palm Beach area or a little north of there might be worth looking at.
Down here in the burbs south of Miami, only cold protection needed is for small seedlings so far. But the most tropical plant I grow is g. mangostana (and just added breadfruit). But, lots of mangoes and lychees are appearing to flower and fruit less over the years. When you do pick your spot, pick some mangoes wisely based upon how far north or south you are, and also zone push your favs.
Homestead and the Redlands are agricultural areas south of Miami.
Hialeah has great soil, at least at my mother in law's. Digging a hole for her reticulate was like spooning butter.
I've been basically everywhere in the state. If I could move down there my dream place would be somewhere near WPB give or take 50 miles north or south and inland a bit more cause it's too expensive. Warm enough to escape hard frosts. Greenhouse is such a limiting factor lol. Another place I'd consider is Pine Island...but then they just got decimated by the hurricane so maybe not. Homestead is too far south now and I hear people saying it's hard to get good blooms on mangoes now but that place is so beautiful. Or maybe I could find a place even more inland but exploit a microclimate like lake okeechobee. Who knows. It really depends on microclimate.
Meritt Island is a good option. It is further north to encourage cooler temps for a good bloom, but the water all around moderates the lows from what I hear. It would not be a country setting. If you want country, you might have a look around the south side of lake Okeechobee. They used to say that to get any effect you had to be able to see the water. That land is pretty jealously guarded, though, I think. Maybe some other people have more recommendations?
Do they come true from seeds? I bought seeds and 2 actually germinated and grow well.
Ana
It's all relative. There was Eugenia seeds going for $350 a seed 2 years ago that are now $5 a seed.
In 2 years, grafted Yangmei plants will start tanking too as supply increases from the literal 1,000 grafted tree's imported over the lest year.
It's pretty good fruit.Quote from: Shovel n Seed
link=topic=49956.msg481035#msg481035 date=1674099393Geez! Last I looked today that was at $500! Is the fruit that good?
Iceman, I bought my seeds through the website greenplanetfarm.comI wanted to know if he would sell a grafted plant so I get the 100% identical variety.