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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is there hope to save my mango tree?
« on: November 17, 2022, 01:37:13 PM »
Thanks all.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is there hope to save my mango tree?
« on: November 14, 2022, 08:43:56 AM »
Update: I am still hopeful that this tree will make it. It's been more than a month and some of the branches still look like there's life in them.
I water the tree at least once a day, about a gallon each time. I removed the shade cloth right before hurricane Nicole.
Is there anything else I should do besides watering the tree and meditating until I see a sign?

@johnb51, I believe so.
A southwestern Vietnamese has just told me that they had heard coc mango in Vietnam, but the term coc implies to anything that is small or tiny.
So, a coc mango implies a small mango of any variety.

In Vietnamese, Coc means toad/frog or june plum ; Cac is male private part.
I've asked my Vietnamese family, and nobody has heard about Coc mango.
I don't know the history of "cac" mango in the US, and I tend to believe that cac is a misspelling of Cat, which means sand. Some people claim that cat mango has a sandy texture when they bite into the flesh, hence the name cat.
I told my family about "cac" mango, and people either were rolling laughing or giving me a WTF look.  And, yes I decided to relabel my "Cac" mango. :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is there hope to save my mango tree?
« on: October 12, 2022, 07:11:26 PM »
Thank you all for your ideas to save my mango tree.

@JakeFruit: I could see the graft line Ė see pic. This afternoon, I removed a couple of small branches that were wrinkling. One of the branches in the previous pic looks like it is not giving up on life yet, so that gives me some hope.
@roblack: I may have done that Ė damage the taproot, to be frank. No excuse, I thought I knew what I was doing.
@Oolie: this is a Kiew Yai tree that I bought from Fruitscapes last year.

I will try to save this one until I canít help it anymore. It brought us a lot of fond moments when it gave us our first ever mangoes.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Is there hope to save my mango tree?
« on: October 12, 2022, 10:53:19 AM »
My mango tree was knocked down hard by hurricane Ian. When I tried to straighten the tree, I decided in a split second that I would also correct an earlier mistake of planting it too low. So, I dug up the roots and replanted the tree. Now my mango tree looks like it is dying, and I had to cut it back quite a bit while watering it every couple of days.
Is there a way to increase my chances of saving this mango tree? My wife absolutely loves its fruits.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hurricane Ian Prep
« on: October 03, 2022, 09:37:49 AM »
All my trees got knocked down pretty hard by 100+ mph winds. My 4 banana trees got completely destroyed.
As much as I hate losing the many of the trees, Iam gave me a chance to redesign my back yard.

Pic shows one of the damages.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Too late to plant a mango tree?
« on: September 23, 2022, 09:59:40 PM »
Thank you all for your thoughts. I really appreciate you taking the time to help a newbie. I see both sides of the argument, and I guess it comes down to my risk tolerance level.
@JohnB: I am in FL, S. Venice.
@palmcity: I actually cut off the top of the Orange Sherbet and grafted it onto my Kiew Yai. The OS was tall, and we are expecting strong winds next week.

Thanks again, everybody.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Too late to plant a mango tree?
« on: September 21, 2022, 09:27:19 PM »
Last weekend, I bought a 3-gallon Orange Sherbet tree. I was wondering if it is too late in the year to plant it, as I lost 4 3-gallon mango trees from the freeze earlier this year; they were planted around September/October last year.
I am in zone 10a, and last year we had a couple of days where temperature dropped to 29F. Only my 25-gallon mango tree survived but suffered quite a bit.


Good morning gurus,

My prized Kiew Yai tree has a lot of these, which I thought were freeze damages and have not taken them seriously until I found this forum.
Are these spots from anthracnose? If so, should i: 1, cut off all damaged leaves, and 2. keep spraying copper fungicide every couple of weeks until there's no sign of anthracnose?
The pictures are front and back of the same leaves. There are so many of them :(


Sugar apple/Atemoya

Admins: could you please pin this thread? It is super helpful, especially to newbies like myself.
Edit: This thread was already pinned here (#11). Thanks Admins, and sorry.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Soil Test - HoldAll
« on: September 05, 2022, 12:35:08 PM »
I bought this soil test kit from Lowes and used the soil around my mango tree for the test. I am not sure if my soil lacks a lot of nutrients  (i use 8-4-8 fertilizer 3x/year and supplement compost + chicken manure in the last month) or the test kit is pretty inaccurate The color of N is a bit off, even for Very Low level.
Has anyone tried this test kit?

Tropical Fruit Online Library / University of Florida Digital Collections
« on: September 05, 2022, 06:42:13 AM »
I found this site to be a great resource for my research about mango and other fruit trees:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thai mangos and their name
« on: September 05, 2022, 06:27:44 AM »
"Lol some of the name are just silly like that. Pram Kai mia mean pram sell his wife. There also a mango call Leum Pua which mean forget your husband because it's so delicious that you forgot to share with your husband."

LOL. It would be hilarious to have a tree that has both Pram Kai Mia and Leum Pua,

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Mangos from India Grown in Florida?
« on: September 03, 2022, 05:50:28 PM »
Is it true that Malika mango has to be picked at the right time or they will taste really bad?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thai mangos and their name
« on: September 03, 2022, 05:43:20 PM »
I had Pram Kai Mieu mango earlier in the season, and it's so good. According to google, the name translates roughly to "The mango is so good, a venerable man would trade wife for it". :)
Most of my mango trees are Thai varieties: Kiew Yai, Maha Chanok, Pim Seng Mun, Nam Doc Mai #4

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Question: mango tree grafting strategy.
« on: September 02, 2022, 08:18:37 PM »
@Orkine, thank you.
I've read the threads, and they are quite helpful.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Question: mango tree grafting strategy.
« on: August 30, 2022, 08:43:59 PM »
I am looking into grafting mango trees to increase the number of varieties in my small urban backyard. Iíve watched a lot of videos and read articles about grafting. Even though there are a lot of videos and articles about grafting techniques, I have not seen much that talks about grafting strategy besides maybe the timing/season for grafting.

Do you have a strategy when you graft your mango trees? For example, do you graft cultivars that have same seed type (monoembryonic seed scion to monoembryonic seed tree, poly to poly), or do you graft cultivars that fruit at the same time (early season scion to early season tree, etc), disease resistance, flavor, etc. Is there science or practical results for your strategy?

For example, I want to limit the height of my fruit trees. So my thinking is that if I graft a low vigor variety scion onto a high vigor tree, or vice versa, the different vigor rates will balance each other out. I also want to have varieties that fruit at around the same time so they have enough time to Ďrecoverí after harvest, etc.
Sorry if the question sounds silly.

Thank you all for your insights.

I used an app called Picture This to try to identify your mystery plants and it said
1. Java plum
2. yellow bells

I am interested in knowing how accurate these "AI powered" apps are.

Good Monday morning,

I am trying to grow an Orange Sherbet from seed. It looks like I'll have 2 seedlings. One of them germinated very quickly (less than a week), and the other one just started to show up yesterday - it may be hard to see but it is below the bigger seedling and to the right of picture.
How do I know which one is a clone from the mother tree? Would the germination rate indicate whether it is a a clone or not?
P.S: I could have purchased a tree, but i don't have anymore real estate in my backyard and decided to try to grow this from seedling so maybe I can graft it to another tree down the road.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Harvard University compost tea recipe
« on: August 23, 2022, 12:24:44 PM »
@Fruit Jungle: I have about 3 inches of mulch. I can see the mulch getting degraded but itís still sitting on top of the soil. Hopefully itíll work into the soil over time.
Iíll give the compost tea a try to see if itíll make any difference. Thanks.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Harvard University compost tea recipe
« on: August 22, 2022, 05:20:23 PM »
@ achetadomestica: it is impressive how you built up your soil. My soil is also white sand; I have mulch on top of it and have not seen much improvement yet after 10 months.
Iíve invested in the tools and materials to make compost tea. Now I am not sure anymore. lol

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Harvard University compost tea recipe
« on: August 22, 2022, 12:45:13 PM »
@pagnr: Thanks. I am thinking about brewing the compost for 24 hours and pour it on the ground until I know it is safe enough to spray on the leaves of my fruit trees.

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