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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Florida's Forgotten Rare Fruits
« on: June 12, 2024, 01:12:08 PM »
Agreed, great topic! I've been watching Kill Your Lawn, and am planning on taking out grass strip by strip, and planting FL natives. Some native fruit trees for the small critters can serve as part of my squirrel distraction system, and bring in more birds. Other than perhaps a few more exotic fruit trees, all new plants entering our yard will be natives.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla varieties
« on: June 10, 2024, 10:11:44 AM »
Has anyone else tried Rivas? Telling ya'll, that is a very nice selection.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Question on pruning this Sweet Tart
« on: June 09, 2024, 07:01:35 PM »
If the 1st fork was at 6+ feet, I could see pugging it. I think you potentially got a nice tree there, with a little time and patience. Good luck!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Question on pruning this Sweet Tart
« on: June 09, 2024, 01:01:10 PM »
I would leave it alone. The new growth will stretch it out, and you should be able to have a decent harvest next year. If you pug it, won't see much fruit for 2 or 3 years.

How tall is the tree at the first forking/split?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sapodilla varieties
« on: June 09, 2024, 12:56:38 PM »
Nice collection! Weird, Glenn is my workhorse here, and really good for eating. Everywhere is different.

See if you can find a Rivas sap tree. My fav so far, but yet to try BS.

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I've already harvested some Mmm4s. Picked them green, counter ripening. Just cut up and ate one. It could've gone longer on the tree for sure, but it was still good. Syrupy sweet, fiberless, and some coconut flavor. It's a weird mango season, so it is possible your Mmm4s are getting ready way before the typical time. The remaining fruit on our tree are starting to show some mild yellowing. They are early here this year for some reason. Hope it gets to being a late season mango next year.

My guess, it flowered early and those fruit held. With ours, the later blooms did not hold fruit (pm, alternaria?). Result is early Mmm4's and no late season fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: June 09, 2024, 11:28:30 AM »
Nice pics/picks Bov!

A bowl for the cat, a bowl for the dog, some bowls for me...





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Just graft different grumi onto it (flowering/fruiting), and you should be good to go. Our tree is over 10 feet tall and haven't even noticed blooms yet. Seems grumi can take its time when it comes to flowering and fruiting.

Yes, 2 eugenias are usually better than 1. Sux when you win an auction for the latest uber rare super tasty eugenia, and then realize you probably need another. My hope is to cross graft trees, keep one multi graft of each species, and trade/share/sell the other(s).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: June 08, 2024, 04:55:50 PM »
Full-figured mango marauding tree demon


Looking to sky, these varmints are ambitious


Domain of the Squirrels, gotta guard those Ceci Loves!!


I love the monochromatic image of the squirrel.  I assume that means he is no longer with us.

You over assume my artistic intent and integrity; thought I was just "enhancing" the images by clicking on one of the options. Squirrel is alive and well, albeit a bit moist (I did spray it and it has been raining finally). It is probably eating more mangoes. I have no desire to take any of them out, and find it futile to relocate them. So I just try to redirect them and accept them and grow more stuff so everyone gets enough.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: June 08, 2024, 12:17:19 PM »
Full-figured mango marauding tree demon


Looking to sky, these varmints are ambitious


Domain of the Squirrels, gotta guard those Ceci Loves!!


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to pick Mangos..??
« on: June 08, 2024, 11:55:59 AM »
I live in my backyard, and they still rob me. But, still getting more fruit than we need.

I would look for the 1st signs of any yellowing anywhere on the fruit, and see if the fruit comes off easily when pulled lightly upon. Thew stem should dry up a bit. The ones still hanging look close to me. You may waste a few trying to pick early, but eventually you will see what the critters see, and know what they know, and feast.

Here is an Edward that is ready to pick:



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: June 08, 2024, 11:50:21 AM »
I hear ya Galations; took me a while to realize Diamond can be a very good mango. Something special about it when eaten at right time.

Edwards have been coming in 1 at a time. Such a good mango.


Today's haul from Mango Men of Homestead.


Dr. C hooked me up with this to sample; an Orange Sherbet seedling. Fruit looking very different than mother.


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: seeds
« on: June 07, 2024, 10:26:07 PM »
Thank you for the zucchini seeds! They are popping up nicely, which makes me quite giddy. All of the mulberry cuttings appear to have rooted well, with nothing but dirt and water. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: June 07, 2024, 05:32:26 PM »
Had the lone Pickering Seedling fruit this morning:



Easily the worst mango we've ever had. The beautiful tree shall be no more.

You know, they say fruits often improve over seasons. What if crappy mangoes get even crappier? Maybe it is worth growing out, and grafting. I can grow one by my fence line, and teach a lesson to mango thieves. Then, they will assume all the other trees are the same.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to pick Mangos..??
« on: June 07, 2024, 10:06:42 AM »
Great questions.

What variety are you growing? They are not all the same when it comes to ripening determination.

Please post pics of the fruits and stems. Get some different shots so we can see different examples of fruit on the tree.

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Congrats on getting you some land to set roots! Gotta send you some seeds to help with that. =)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: June 06, 2024, 10:42:35 PM »
I don't know if my Glenn has these V angled branches or not but as you can tell there's a different problem altogether here with all the branches coming out of one central crown at the top of the trunk at about 6'. I suppose some of those will be snapping eventually.




Everything will be alright.

That's very similar to how our Glenn looked when 1st planted. It has held up well, only lost a branch or 2 during hurricanes.

Have been eating tons of Glenns, as have been the squirrels. Everyone seems content for now. They are the sweetest when super ripe.

Tried 1st m4, it was okay. Ripened up, but not very sweet. Definitely picked too early.

Picked a few Orange Sherbets, don't really know how to judge when OS is ready yet, but hopefully got it right. Sap smelled of sweet citrus.

1st Ceci Love dropped today, as I was shaking the rootstock tree (Glenn), to scare off marauding tree rats. Medium-smallish this year. The sap smelled divine.

Had an Orion the other day; an Alphonso seedling. Perfectly clean fruit. Firm, fiberless, juicy, sweet and spicy. I liked it a lot.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: June 03, 2024, 09:53:20 PM »
That's a beautiful mango fliptop!

Had a delicious Joe Ellen (sp?) this morning. Pretty sour, sweet, juicy, a total delight. Way better than candy.

Cambodianas have been really good too. Sweet and sour, with a little something else. Ginger?

Glenns have been very nice. Did some slices in the freeze dryer. Way better than dehydrated mango.

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Angie is a great mango as long as not overripened; they get funky papaya-ish taste when too far along.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: June 01, 2024, 09:03:48 PM »
I would agree with the sunscald idea, but this tree gets only partial direct sun. I crammed in the ST, and have been super happy with the results. It does well with limed space and light. Might be dryscald, it's been hot and dry.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: June 01, 2024, 03:42:48 PM »
Squirrels are cute unless you grow fruit. Now, back to mangoes...

Some Sweet Tarts are starting to lightly yellow in small splotches, with browning stems. All are just medium-small size, which is throwing me off. In the past, ST has been the most forgiving in terms of early picking, Seems most eventually became edible or awesome, no matter how early they were picked. Wouldn't push that thinking too far, but I've failed with many others and ST hasn't punished me. Ran a squirrel off of them the other day, think it's about time to sample one.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Peaches in south FL (low chill)
« on: June 01, 2024, 01:09:47 PM »
Was eating GA peaches last night around midnight; what a treat! Take back what I said about Glenn mango being peachy enough to satisfy peach cravings. Freeze drying a few, curious as to how they will come out.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Raind
« on: June 01, 2024, 09:32:43 AM »
Sorry to hear of your loss.

But I am a bit confused; you think Brian sending you a card only makes more sense than customs took your exotic seeds that were shipped without you acquiring proper permitting?

I have ordered from RainDanceSeeds/BL several times, and he has never sent me a card. Feeling jelly.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2024 FL Mango Season
« on: June 01, 2024, 09:24:08 AM »
We have a Squirrelnator. Our squirrels have evolved beyond that, along with the Rats of Nimh. With lots of trees, vines, and fences, they never really have to come down to the ground anyway. Plenty of stuff to eat. My best defense seems to be keeping them fed. They love palm nuts (don't know what kind, but I aint eating them), and lots of other stuff growing around here that we don't eat. Keep a couple of bird/squirrel feeders packed in the front yard, that appeases some of them. Yesterday, they tore up 2 mangoes in broad daylight, when I was sitting on the porch working. I had just walked under the tree an hour earlier, and then fruits on the ground. Never could find the culprits, they are getting sneakier. 

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There are probably lots of plants that can smell similar, as they contain terpenes. Driving down the road near the bay and mangroves in Miami, sometimes smells like a music fest. Remember noticing such in Georgia, usually near a wooded lot or out in the country.

Would suck if one's roommate happened to smoke their prized rare eugenia collection.

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