You know Stan, I don't know why I'm even here either. I attempted to leave your posts alone but the nonsense somehow drew me out, and now in trying to have a constructive reasoning with you I realize I'm not willing to work that hard at it. The last thing I'm growing is all the solidly hardy fruits, theres a list attached to my profile. Cloudforest guy left nor cal partly for cold growing conditions and now has "cold hardy" Mango in San Diego county. I have long been pessimistic about growing Mango's in the Bay Area , though I wish it could be more successful.
Telling you not to grow something? your comprehension levels are proving to be questionable , put whatever seed in the dirt you want, please.
If you don't live here, going by all time records is what you got, because ...it's a factual history of the temperature's, daytime highs and nighttime lows that can give you a base of information.
Stan , Stan .... It's a nice Wampee, don't get down on me for large'ing up the next person growing something that's uncommon and looks good. I've never seen Wampee growing in the Bay. If you post a picture of something growing good at your house that's exciting I'd big you up the same way but I feel like mostly I read about your failures. San Diego has a proven track record of many different rare subtropical tree's growing to maturity and producing well, SF Bay Area not so much , the words you are writing do not compute well for me. I agree that I should block your "posts" . Your right , no one can prove one iota your wrong, you need no help in that department.
Bush- I'm not even sure why you are even here. If all you want are the solidly hardy fruits..nothing to do but plant them.
I notice that you sound like the cloudforest guy from a decade ago,that I was "repeating miraculous" growths. lol. Now? He pushes those very same plants on that very same board. Mangoes in nor cal. Amazing.
Also Bush..if you don't live here,going by all time records is ridiculous. Most of the San Diego area has colder lows- all time- then SF or even Berkeley. So,San Diegans better not take a chance..oooooh.
Telling me not to grow something while saying "Great Wampee"..or being silent on other bay arean posts tells me you have some agenda. Mine? To grow things.
You maybe shouldn't read my posts. Because,you don't prove one iota I'm wrong.