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Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« on: November 29, 2012, 09:15:50 PM »
I need to know this stuff and this place is the perfect place to learn!

Valencia pride

and what else?

valcarrie?

PPK? (was very vigorous for me!)

Palmer?

Tommy Atkins?

yes no?

what else?

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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2012, 09:41:16 PM »
Jakarta is a very fast grower.


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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2012, 09:46:41 PM »
Jakarta is a very fast grower.

what about fruit quality of Jakarta? and disease resistance?

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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2012, 09:50:11 PM »
KP goes toe to toe with VP here. For some reason it doesnt sound like its as vigorous over there?
I need to take a few picks of the street trees soon as they are dripping with mangoes and will soon make a massive mess over the roads.

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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2012, 09:52:43 PM »

what about fruit quality of Jakarta? and disease resistance?

thanks!!!

For me, powdery mildew susceptible.  It seems anthracnose resistant.  Flavor is twangy and sweet.  Not my favorite, but some people think a lot of it. Impressive sized fruit and nice coloration on the exterior.
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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2012, 09:56:53 PM »
My Alphonso matches my VP in vegetative speed....

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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2012, 09:57:54 PM »
From all I have ever heard and read Valencia Pride is your boy. Meanwhile in S Florida the mango trees are getting ready for another gripping mango season with forum members already reporting panicles. 13 is an unlucky number but my crystal ball says the 2013 mango harvest will be all good...... if we survive the December 21st Mayan apocalypse

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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2012, 10:22:36 PM »
Jakarta has a distinct resinous twang...ain't that right Sherihilin...

Most vigorous :  VP
Moderately vigorous to vigorous:  PPK, Van Dyke, Madame Frances, Bailey's Marvel, Bombay, Edward, Haden, Jakarta, Kent, Southern Blush, Spirit of 76
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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2012, 10:54:15 PM »
KP goes toe to toe with VP here. For some reason it doesnt sound like its as vigorous over there?
I need to take a few picks of the street trees soon as they are dripping with mangoes and will soon make a massive mess over the roads.

KP is a fast grower here in FL too.

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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2012, 07:57:13 AM »
The way I look at it, many mangoes grow with the relative same or similar vigor.  For me, there are vigorous growers, moderate growers and dwarf/semi dwarf.  At the slow/non vigorous end of the spectrum are Ice cream, Pickering, and Julie.  Then you have the next level up with the likes of Cogshall being representative. Also in the mid-range are Rosiegold, Maha Chanok, Carrie, and Nam Doc Mai.  At my house also slower growing and not in the high vigor category  are Spirit of 76, Falang, Palmer, Parvin, and Duncan, but this could be idiosyncratic to my yard and trees.  Pretty much everything else grows with pretty good vigor with good growing culture.  I guess I can single a few out as being particularly vigorous in my yard. They are Valencia Pride, Bombay, Jakarta, Eweis, Mallindi, Alphonso (but, regarding Alphonso, this could also be a function of never putting on a crop of fruit), and Southern Blush
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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2012, 09:11:51 AM »
thanks for the detailed explaination!
I really appreciate it.
now I'm probably going to recccommend a southern blush for my friends house.
The way I look at it, many mangoes grow with the relative same or similar vigor.  For me, there are vigorous growers, moderate growers and dwarf/semi dwarf.  At the slow/non vigorous end of the spectrum are Ice cream, Pickering, and Julie.  Then you have the next level up with the likes of Cogshall being representative. Also in the mid-range are Rosiegold, Maha Chanok, Carrie, and Nam Doc Mai.  At my house also slower growing and not in the high vigor category  are Spirit of 76, Falang, Palmer, Parvin, and Duncan, but this could be idiosyncratic to my yard and trees.  Pretty much everything else grows with pretty good vigor with good growing culture.  I guess I can single a few out as being particularly vigorous in my yard. They are Valencia Pride, Bombay, Jakarta, Eweis, Mallindi, Alphonso (but, regarding Alphonso, this could also be a function of never putting on a crop of fruit), and Southern Blush
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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2012, 02:50:44 PM »
One tree in our yard has to be cut back every year or it overtakes the house is the Bailey's Marvel.
They're like the Varmint-Cong...

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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2012, 10:41:09 AM »
why do I keep thinking PPK is a fast grower?

every time I see a batch of 3gal grafted mangoes from Zill, the largest ones seem to be PPK.

anyone else notice it's a fast grower??

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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2012, 10:54:45 AM »
why do I keep thinking PPK is a fast grower?

every time I see a batch of 3gal grafted mangoes from Zill, the largest ones seem to be PPK.

anyone else notice it's a fast grower??
Yes, PPK is fast and vigorous.
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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2012, 10:57:31 AM »
Thanks for confirming.

ANYMORE NAMES OF VIGOROUS MANGOES!??

PLEASE!!!

BTW, Southern Blush was the variety I recommended to my friend who asked about the best tasting fastest growing mango!
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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2012, 11:14:04 AM »
My baileys marvel is close to my Valencia pride mango is vigor. They are both much faster growers than my other trees.  I like the baileys marvel taste better than the VP but my wife is opposite.

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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2012, 11:19:53 AM »
My baileys marvel is close to my Valencia pride mango is vigor. They are both much faster growers than my other trees.  I like the baileys marvel taste better than the VP but my wife is opposite.

I've eaten about 5 VP's, from different trees, and I don't like the taste too much.

Maybe I've had bad luck.  They seem to be popular.

Baileys on the other hand, was amazing..and had huge filets when I was done cleaning the seed!

I was amazed by the shape of the mango, and how they slice up....and of course the great taste.
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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2012, 12:41:17 PM »
Adam,

Are you looking for something to graft together with a V.P. or just for a fast tree.
I also have bud wood from the parent tree if in need. (Bailey Marvel)

Also what was that mango tree your buddie was looking for. I'll be heading to Zills soon.

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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2012, 12:52:14 PM »
Bailey's Marvel by far ( for me  :))

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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #19 on: June 27, 2023, 11:59:15 AM »
I am looking for fast growing mango as well.
Are you trying to make some rootstocks for grafting?
That's the reason I am looking for

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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #20 on: June 27, 2023, 01:28:36 PM »
I am looking for fast growing mango as well.
Are you trying to make some rootstocks for grafting?
That's the reason I am looking for

I am growing lots of different mango seedlings right now in SoCal. None of them have outperformed the manilla seedling. granted the one i have is not from home depot, but it is growing like crazy and likely to hit 12' this year. hopefully next year it flowers so I can begin growing those as root stock

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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2023, 01:31:42 PM »
At my SoCal location my fast growers are:

Coconut Cream
Seacrest
Guava
Peach Cobbler
Lemon Zest (once established)
Cotton Candy
Orange Essence
0-15 (Tree is young but it has grown well so far)

Val-Carrie is not vigorous but more of a moderate grower but appears highly productive as I have many small fruits developing this year. 

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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #22 on: June 27, 2023, 01:47:56 PM »
I am looking for fast growing mango as well.
Are you trying to make some rootstocks for grafting?
That's the reason I am looking for

I am growing lots of different mango seedlings right now in SoCal. None of them have outperformed the manilla seedling. granted the one i have is not from home depot, but it is growing like crazy and likely to hit 12' this year. hopefully next year it flowers so I can begin growing those as root stock

Luke, were the manila seedlings planted in-ground or a pot? I have a fast growing lemon zest that I might be able to graft this year to a manila rootstock since they are both just a year old.

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Re: Please list the fastest growing mango cultivars!
« Reply #23 on: June 27, 2023, 02:09:08 PM »
why do I keep thinking PPK is a fast grower?

every time I see a batch of 3gal grafted mangoes from Zill, the largest ones seem to be PPK.

anyone else notice it's a fast grower??
Yes, PPK is fast and vigorous.

I must have an oddball rootstock because my PPK has been very slow for 3 years. It flushes 2 times per year tops. I’ve grafted a backup into my Angie and that branch is definitely outpacing Angie so I very well could have a dwarfing rootstock.

Sunrise has been in constant growth mode this year but it took a year to actually get started.

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« Reply #24 on: June 27, 2023, 04:52:03 PM »
I am looking for fast growing mango as well.
Are you trying to make some rootstocks for grafting?
That's the reason I am looking for

I am growing lots of different mango seedlings right now in SoCal. None of them have outperformed the manilla seedling. granted the one i have is not from home depot, but it is growing like crazy and likely to hit 12' this year. hopefully next year it flowers so I can begin growing those as root stock

Luke, were the manila seedlings planted in-ground or a pot? I have a fast growing lemon zest that I might be able to graft this year to a manila rootstock since they are both just a year old.

The Manila Iím talking about was put into the ground from a 15 gallon, and has taken off. For some odd reason Iíve had better success with trees going I tot he ground after growing in pots to a larger size. I have ppk, CAC, and orange sherbet which I received as 1 gallons last year. The CAC and orange sherbet I put into the ground and they really stalled out, and have grown with very very close internode spacing and small leaves. The leaves are finally coming out normal size and Iím hoping the internode spacing starts getting larger and I get some good growth.

The PPK went for. 1 to 3 gallon last year and just got potted up to 5 gallon and is pushing new growth and easily double the size of the in ground trees.

I put one of the sweet tart scions you sent on the Manila that is kicking ass, but Iíve left the rest of the tree ungrafted. Want give the fruit a go before I decide on working it over as it is such a star performer

 

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