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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guava Help questions
« on: March 20, 2025, 10:20:27 PM »
Those things are indestructible. I root pruned mine from 25 gallon down to 5 and abused it all summer and it did fine. You can get a bunch of fruits even at 7 gallons.

I’ve heard forum members say they taste better in planted in the ground. Any evidence to that?

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Mine did the same when it was shipped (3 weeks in mail). Just keep it humid in dappled shade (mine sits under a citrus tree in my gh) don’t over water (I agree with the r/o, dehumidifier runoff works too). Try to ignore it for about a month, hopefully it’s got enough energy to resprout.

FYI consider an achacha not as fussy and grows faster.

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If it rubs off it it’s sooty mold. I found ruby supreme terrible to deal with indoors, total pest magnet. The ants are farming the sap sucking insects for their sweet shit (they poop
Out the sap trying to get nitrogen/protein from the host plant). Scale, white flies, mealey bugs…. Ruby supreme has got it all. I know it produces a ton of fruit, but I hate the taste. Some people say it tastes better in ground than container.

If you are growing indoors, or don’t have carribean fruit fly in your area, the red cattely guava is way better. It is pest proof for scale aphid and mealey. If grown outdoor in far south you get maggots in the fruit. In my northern greenhouse it flowers and fruits year round and can be bonsaied for fun. It is also impossible to drown or burn from water/fert. I think it tastes way better than ruby supreme.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Pawpaw in containers?
« on: March 18, 2025, 08:56:14 AM »
I tried this a couple of years back, when my ambitions were greater than my experience, with no success. I had these 32” tall pots that I grew them in, did ok during the summer but leaves often got fried by the sun if they weren’t shaded. For the winter I moved the pots around trying to get enough chill hours while not letting them get too cold. They never leafed out the spring, still green under the bark for the whole summer so still alive, they just never leafed out.

The tricky issue with the pots is they need to be super deep for the taproot, but by having them in a pot the roots will be way colder than they would be in the ground 3 feet down. Here in zone 3 the frost line is 4-8 feet deep depending on snow cover and winter temps. In zone 6 I bet the ground around the roots barely gets below freezing. If you have access to a bunch of seeds I’d try it but you may be wasting money on grafted trees.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruiting garcinias in containers?
« on: March 16, 2025, 03:38:37 PM »
Does anyone sell grafted ones?

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If you harvest more that are not over ripe please post. I have one of these that put out only male flowers last year and would like to know if it’s worth keeping.

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You could train it up a vertical post in the pot and have 2 leaders at the top like a T. 2 5’ arms (10’ total) would be the same total length as the one in the pic. You could possibly design arms that could fold down during the winter for storage.

You then just wait for side shoots to hang down. My side shoots get 15’ long sometimes.

They propagate easy from cuttings so you could try the T setup in many different sized pots and see what the yeild is.

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My vine is in a 35 gallon pot, 15 feet long trained up a boom I can lower and prune. The side shoots grow long and flower. If they get too long I loop them over the boom. The top of the boom is 14’ from the floor and it sits in a pot 3’ high. I always have 2 vines on the go and a cutting in a small pot, cause they sometimes just seem to die suddenly (3ish years). Just stopped flowering and I think 50 fruit set. You will have to hand pollinate if no bees.

I cut back the side shoots after I’ve harvested all of them. The main stem does get stiff with time so I’m not sure if you could somehow roll it up for the winter. Mine only has to bend about 45deg when I lower the boom. I’ve lost a mature vine once when the bottom pot moved and the base of the vine cracked a bit.



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Red lime-unique, seedy, can be eaten out of hand. Makes unique cocktails (interesting Lemon/lime sub). Tree looks nice ripe fruits are very bright. Also eating the sweet tasting peel has a weird numbing effect.
Limequat-like a small Persian lime with less juice,I got rid of mine.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Forum text size problems
« on: March 07, 2025, 05:39:10 PM »
I just assumed I was old and my eyes are bad.

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My biggest concern is that most of us on this forum are already weird enough with our fruit/plant obsession. If I start rubbing and smelling leaves my wife with think I some kind of plant pervert.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Keeping Kiwi small?
« on: March 06, 2025, 07:18:23 PM »
I grew hardy kiwi early in my fruit growing days and found it very hard to keep contained along the top of a fence, but didn’t know as much as I know now (grape and passion fruit trellises). Also I think they need full sun. They can grow very long, is there a way to start it in the ground somewhere in the shade and then have it grow into the sun?

Perhaps take some pics of your layout, that may help people come up with ideas outside the box.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help - Mango Tree Dying
« on: March 03, 2025, 07:58:45 PM »
According to the map sandiego had average soil temps under 60 for only
about 3weeks during Jan. Dipped down sub 55F a couple of times.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help - Mango Tree Dying
« on: March 03, 2025, 07:49:53 PM »
For clarification my thoughts were that the root zone is sensitive to prolonged temps under 60F. I found a soil temp map https://www.greencastonline.com/tools/soil-temperature. I’m gonna take a look at it and try to figure out how cold the ground gets for people who post about mangos.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help - Mango Tree Dying
« on: March 03, 2025, 05:08:20 PM »
Mas, for interest sake any chance you can dig a small hole on a cold day and check with an IR thermometer?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help - Mango Tree Dying
« on: March 03, 2025, 01:12:47 PM »
I think cold roots are the issue.

In my gh there is a cold side by the north window and a warm side by my Infra red heaters. It’s all in the same 225 sq feet with great circulation, rh and air temp at night 65. I have all my mango in tall ceramic pots with a fast draining mix 50% Perilite, 25% reptibark and 25% promix. I water with distilled water and fertigate to 250ppm with 5-0-2 hydroponic solution.

My cold side mangos do this but my warm mangos do not. I think mango roots have to be warm, I don’t think a fast draining mix is good enough when the temp is under 60 for an extended period of time.

What temp does the ground go down to in southern CA where mangos grow?


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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Shepherdia
« on: March 01, 2025, 07:22:08 PM »
I think I had these while foraging in saskatchewan in late September (I think it was ripe) but there are 2 different types of buffaloberries and I’m not sure which one it was. Started off very sweet and pleasant…..then became the most astringent thing I had ever tasted. My entire mouth went bone dry to the point that my son and I almost thought about rinsing our mouths out with river water.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Drooping loquat new branch growth
« on: February 27, 2025, 02:45:35 PM »
Perhaps clip a couple of leaves so it’s not transpiring so much?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Shipping problem...
« on: February 27, 2025, 02:44:35 PM »
Yeah I put them in shaded area of my greenhouse. If they drop leaves don’t overwater.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Shipping problem...
« on: February 27, 2025, 11:33:11 AM »
I had a cacao and mangosteen survive 21 days using transport, a rollinia did not make it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Drooping loquat new branch growth
« on: February 26, 2025, 05:48:25 PM »
Do you have a high water table or really compacted soil? Sometimes a freshly dug hole can act like a bowl. If you dig a hole nearby and fill with water does it drain? I have heard in some places in Florida people pant ona mound. I let my 25gallon loquat pots sit in 1-2” of water almost daily and do fine even in the coldest (55F) parts of my gh. They seem way more water tolerant than citrus.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Did I cut too close my Sabara Jaboticaba?
« on: February 26, 2025, 08:51:12 AM »
Does that work with all trees? If for all trees Any issues with mealeys hiding in there with citrus etc?

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passiont fruit didnt love the texture and the taste overall its gross i grow trees mainly in pots maybe i will get that tree out and plant a mango or a seedling i got of mamey

Do you grow the purple ones? My wife and daughter fight over them. There was a study that showed that they may do better in very acidic soil. I grow mine in big pots and use bokashi fruit waste leachate (quite acidic) to fertigate.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Got to try a black sapote!
« on: February 25, 2025, 10:17:15 AM »
I've been dissuated from growing one- because they grow to be huge trees. Still need to try the fruit

Mine fruits fine in a 20gal container at 6ft tall and isn't overly vigorous.  Plenty of fruit

Is it good enough to justify the valuable real estate? I already ditched my rubysupreme cause the fruit wasn’t good enough for the space required.

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