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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nettie white sapote issues
« on: March 09, 2025, 11:56:58 PM »
Reedo, that's interesting my soil is ancient sand dune so, very sandy with which has been mulched for also 50yrs. that I 've been on land and I've never had such issues in my White Sapotes. I do get water core in some of my apples but love it in them. You going into sandy ground is tree in pot? Seems to big for pot unless big pot!

It's in ground in very sand soil. The location is an old landslide. I have Malibu #3 and Walton fruiting without issues. It was only the second year of fruit on Nettie, so who knows, maybe it will resolve itself with some maturation.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nettie white sapote issues
« on: March 06, 2025, 09:13:15 AM »
Reedo, how long has this Nettie been fruiting? Also, have you had a lot of rain lately? Both conditions can influence fruit taste.

The tree is probably 5 years old and 15' tall. This is its second year fruiting. We've had a normal amount of rain. The tree is going in ground in sandy soil. Some fruit are excellent, sweet, and richly flavored. Some are the same, but with substantial bitterness. Others aren't ripening properly, developing the water core, which basically seems like the fruit is ripening unevenly, from the seed out towards the skin, leaving the center overripe by the time the fruit fully ripens.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Nettie white sapote issues
« on: March 05, 2025, 05:21:30 PM »
Has anyone had issues ripening Nettie white sapote? My Walton, Malibu #3, Vernon, etc. ripen without issue, but my Nettie had a mixed first crop. Some fruit were excellent, while others had "water core", which made the fruit taste and smell overripe. I picked some of what was left in hopes they would counter ripen without issue. Of the fruit I picked early, it was a similar mixed bag of excellent fruit, bitter fruit, and some fruit with water core issues. Any ideas on what causes this?










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We've had a few mild frosty nights that burned some banana leaves, but it didn't seem to slow down this plant's new growth. It has a little half-dome cover of plastic for protection from our last downpour. 







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This was the size of the seedless fruit. It ripened really early in the season, so its flavor was pretty meh.




These are the pollinated fruit. Much larger. At their best, they have a tasty brown sugar flavor with a nasturtium spice from the seeds.







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My experience is anecdotal, but before I had a flowering male, my female did produce smaller seedless fruit. I can't speak to how reliably a female might fruit without a male nearby, or if my experience was a fluke. At first I thought perhaps my Mountain Papaya was pollinating it, but there weren't any seeds. My male plant started flowering shortly after that and my female began making much larger fruit with seeds. I'll see if I can find the photos.

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I rooted some of Jonah's cuttings years ago. I have better strike rate with rooting hormone (Dip N Grow) on a heat mat, but have heard lore that these can be rooted in a cup of water. These are the best of the goumis I've tasted. With an appropriate pollinator, these produce copious amounts of fruit. Mine are growing in Santa Cruz, California.





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chicken Claw Mulberry
« on: January 28, 2025, 11:46:31 PM »
Does anybody have any cuttings available? I would like to try to graft chicken claw to one of my trees

I'll have some in summer. Feel free to PM me in summer. Mine are pushing new growth right now. I'll have some 1g plants too. I'm going to wait for them to fill out their roots a little more before sending any off.

Thanks for the offer! I'm good on figs for now. Our climate doesn't quite get hot enough to ripen most mid or late season figs, and I already have too many fig plants. Haha...

Thats great!! I will do that, ty 🙏👍. Btw if you grow figs and are interested in some cuttings lmk, I got a bunch left from my trees

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chicken Claw Mulberry
« on: January 26, 2025, 10:48:32 PM »
Does anybody have any cuttings available? I would like to try to graft chicken claw to one of my trees

I'll have some in summer. Feel free to PM me in summer. Mine are pushing new growth right now. I'll have some 1g plants too. I'm going to wait for them to fill out their roots a little more before sending any off.

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Here is an update. I planted this plant in the ground in late summer. It has a banana growing over it, has a rock wall behind it, and below it. Once temps dropped, I stopped giving it water, but our sandy soil has stayed moist due to rain. I recently piled up some fresh wood chips around it in hopes they would raise air temps a couple degrees around it. We've had several nights of light frost, but the plant is in a micro-climate location that doesn't seem to frost. Interestingly, the lead branch arrested growth as soon as night temps dipped below 50ºf, but it appears several branches of new growth have emerged close to the soil level. They pushed new growth before I piled chips around it. The plant doesn't look great, but it looks a lot better than I thought it would. While the leaves don't look great, there doesn't appear to be any dieback on the stem, despite it being green wood.






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I'll check and see what I have when I get home. I have some rooted cuttings done last fall in 1g. I'll see if they have enough roots yet to be sent off. I think my CC is already pushing new growth, but I'll see if I have any cuttings I could take.




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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Iso oakleaf papaya cuttings
« on: January 23, 2025, 06:29:01 PM »
I have some male and female I can cut for you. If $30 for two of each (including shipping) sounds good to you, shoot me a PM. Should be done soon, as mine are just starting to wake up. I'm in Central CA.







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I’d be interested in grafted plants.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Cinnamon Apple: Pouteria hypoglauca
« on: December 29, 2024, 11:06:53 PM »
I have a 15 gallon fruiting one here in south San Diego that I may want to sell.

What would you say its cold tolerance is?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Cinnamon Apple: Pouteria hypoglauca
« on: December 17, 2024, 11:47:45 AM »
It sounds like a really interesting fruit. I'd love to try growing it as well if anyone tracks down a seed source.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chicken Claw Mulberry
« on: December 17, 2024, 09:55:45 AM »



Mine just fruited for the first time. Pretty sweet tasty.

Good on ya! Shame we don't have them in down here in Australia.
I might have to buy seeds at some stage, but are they better than the good ol' English Black, or whatever grows wild in the USA? I Just want to make sure that whatever I do is worth my time, money and effort.

It's very good, but if you're just starting to acquire mulberries, I wouldn't go out of your way to get this one. It's similar to the other Himalayan types, but has a very novel leaf shape. There are many excellent selections already in circulation where you are. Marta has a nice blog that details a lot of them.

https://fruitsandgardening.blogspot.com/search?q=mulberries

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chicken Claw Mulberry
« on: December 17, 2024, 09:47:03 AM »
Does it taste better than the Tice or Black Pakistan?

I have it grafted now as well.

I'd say it falls in line with other Himalayan types like Skinner, DMOR9, Pakistan, etc. It's an excellent selection with a very novel leaf shape, and great flavor. I hesitate to give any mulberries a ranking as I've read so many contradictory opinions, probably due to different growing conditions and the subjectivity of taste preferences. If you like the Himalaya types, I think you'll really like it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Sapote Fruit Shapes
« on: October 01, 2024, 02:58:41 PM »





This cultivar has probably been posted already. Nettie white sapote.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Trying to figure out papaya flowers
« on: September 22, 2024, 11:47:54 PM »
From what I could see, the first photo looks like fruit. The second and third photo looked like female flowers. I didn't see any male flowers in the photos. This video shows male and female flowers up close if you want to get a better idea of what they look like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7vWcIKcNaw

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chicken Claw Mulberry
« on: August 29, 2024, 10:51:30 PM »



Mine just fruited for the first time. Pretty sweet tasty.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Sapote Fruit Shapes
« on: July 19, 2024, 05:44:12 PM »
Walton.










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: what are some fast bearing rarities?
« on: July 09, 2024, 02:03:08 PM »
Another vote for Poha / Cape Gooseberries. Cherimoyas and some of the other Annonas seem to fruit in ~3 years. Guavas fruit pretty quickly too. Mulberries fruit very quickly when grafted onto established rootstock. Rooted cuttings of figs can fruit in 0-2 years.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Sapote Fruit Shapes
« on: July 07, 2024, 08:17:28 PM »
This is the last fruit of the season from a tree gifted to me without a label. The possible cultivars are Malibu #3, Vernon, or McDill. My suspicion is Malibu #3. Extremely sweet with a great flavor. Vanilla custard with a little citrus note, especially closer to the skin. Skin bitterness seems to vary. Something the skin is a little brittle and sweet, without bitterness. This one the skin was mildly bitter.










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Sapote Fruit Shapes
« on: June 21, 2024, 11:39:56 PM »
There is large fruit size white sapote that tests very good, as good as any I have tasted. You should get the Selk or CT#7, see my photos. These fruits are very good tasting. How you tried either of these fruits. Also, Cuccio gets very large, but I like these two over Cuccio.

I'll be able to taste my seedling McDill fruits this year and people say it is on the large size but it doesn't look as large as the two I mentioned above.

I've had Selck and Cuccio, and they're good but aren't quite as good as the best ones I've eaten. Even within a single cultivar on a single tree, white sapotes vary a lot. I'm no expert on them, so this is just based on trying maybe 20 varieties. But the best two varieties I've had are Walton and @ScottR's Rainbow seedling.

Yeah, McDill is a huge fruit but I put it in the middle of the pack -- sweet and bland. At least it's a really consistent fruit.

Among the widely available and productive varieties, Vernon is a good choice, because a good Vernon fruit is really good, decent sized, and the trees are productive and precocious.

Is the "@ScottR's Rainbow seedling" circulated as "Robert's Rainbow", or is that something different? Any chance you got to see the tree's growth habit? My grafted Robert's Rainbow finally started to take off, so I'm going to get it in the ground. Curious if it's going to be a monster tree like my Walton.

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Piña Colada and Coconut Cream are worth adding to your list. I believe they’re both polyembryonic too.

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