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Yellow dragon fruit.
« on: November 13, 2014, 04:50:26 PM »
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Wonder anyone has cuttings?  If not, I will grow from seeds  ;D :(
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Re: Yellow dragon fruit.
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2014, 06:35:20 PM »
I don't. I also don't get the survey choices. The yellow undatus is from Israel, not Hawaii. They contract farms to grow it under non-propagation agreements.

So growing from seed is your best legal option unless someone else already did that and has seedling cuttings.
Better to start many seeds in case some of them revert to red skin.

How does it taste compared to red fleshed fruits? I always heard the taste is pretty inferior but people tend to get attracted by the rarer albino specimens anyway.

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Re: Yellow dragon fruit.
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2014, 09:06:04 PM »
When most people talk about 'Yellow Dragon Fruit', they are talking about Selenicereus megalanthus.

The Yellow undatus from Israel is very rare. I know nobody who is growing it in So Cal.

Selenicereus megalanthus fruit scores high in taste results and BRIX readings.  The cons are the fruit is small, thorny, takes 6 months to ripen (also a pro), is not cold hardy, and is not heat tolerant in field trials.


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Re: Yellow dragon fruit.
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2014, 12:20:26 AM »
Miracle,

I don't know where you are in Los Angeles.  I was at Champa Nursery in El Monte two days ago.  I saw that the yellow dragon fruit was available.  I didn't pay much attention because I was there looking for a sapodilla and biew kiew longan.  You might want to check it out.

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Re: Yellow dragon fruit.
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2014, 12:33:58 AM »
They apparently sell this on ebay.

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Re: Yellow dragon fruit.
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2014, 01:09:02 PM »
Thanks, all. 
Pasca, I am in Walnut-Diamond-Pomona area

fyliu,
Honestly, I did not know where it come from. I bought that fruit when I went vacation in Maui and Big Islands, Hawaii. It was very expensive ($15 for that fruit) because I was curious how it taste like.
Its taste is no different than the white dragon fruit that I grow. Just the yellow look that catch my attention.
Personally, I think the red dragon fruit is sweetest of all.
My yellow dragon fruit seedlings are growing  about 8-10 in now.   :) Thanks, I will keep one or two pots, just in case, it switches back from yellow to red.  >:(

The yellow dragon fruit that Champa nursery sell that fruits are not the same with this yellow dragon above picture.
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Re: Yellow dragon fruit.
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2014, 02:05:19 PM »
Good luck with the seedlings. I haven't heard anybody growing it so no data on how it will turn out. Hopefully it will set fruit by itself.

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Re: Yellow dragon fruit.
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2014, 02:49:18 PM »
I don't. I also don't get the survey choices. The yellow undatus is from Israel, not Hawaii. They contract farms to grow it under non-propagation agreements.

So growing from seed is your best legal option unless someone else already did that and has seedling cuttings.
Better to start many seeds in case some of them revert to red skin.

How does it taste compared to red fleshed fruits? I always heard the taste is pretty inferior but people tend to get attracted by the rarer albino specimens anyway.

Actually, the yellow undatus is a subspecies of Hylocereus undatus, H. undatus ssp. luteocarpus, that was found in the Yucatan region of Mexico (see Calix de Dios, Haseltonia,11 :11-17. 2005).  I have read that there are a number of selections in Israel, but they also grow it in Hawaii, and Oscar sells seeds of a yellow variety.

Since H. undatus is self fertile, I would expect this subspecies to be also, but the ease with which dragon fruit cross pollenate growing from seed would be a gamble.

I have been trying to get my hands on cuttings of this variety for a while now, and have plants from two different sources that purport to be yellow undatus,  although neither has fruited for me yet.  Unfortunately both of these plants look just like H. megalanthus, and nothing like H. undatus so I have no idea what they really are.

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Re: Yellow dragon fruit.
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2014, 02:01:33 AM »
Joey 'pepe' Paez III posted this on Facebook:



which is not the same as miracle posted

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Re: Yellow dragon fruit.
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2014, 11:27:35 AM »
Yes, Ricshaw.  Too many thorns on fruit for this yellow one. It is a challenge to eat  :(. I like the yellow dragon fruit that have smooth skin as the regular red dragon fruit.
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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2014, 01:32:23 PM »
Yes, Ricshaw.  Too many thorns on fruit for this yellow one. It is a challenge to eat  :(. I like the yellow dragon fruit that have smooth skin as the regular red dragon fruit.

Let us know if you find a source for the Yellow Undatus in SoCal.

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Re: Yellow dragon fruit.
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2014, 07:12:48 PM »
I only have seedling now. They are about 8-10 inches. I trimmed all the suckers, just leave the main trunk. I reported in 1 gallon pot. Hopefully, it will take off fast and will survive this winter.
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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2014, 09:04:46 PM »
Miracle, how long did it take for your seeds to sprout?

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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2014, 12:41:33 PM »
The seeds sprouted within a week in a mini tropical environment that I created by putting the whole pot into a clear plastic bag, tied at the end. I kept in there almost three months. They grew fast.  Then, you need to pock small holes  to larger holes on the bag to expose the seedlings to the outside environment slowly. If open the bag right away your seedlings will die. :o
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Re: Yellow dragon fruit.
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2014, 01:50:22 PM »
You don't really have to remove the other branches I think. The extra chlorophyll will help it grow faster. Eventually one or two will end up larger than the rest and become the main trunk. Just a thought. Seems like you're doing well so keep doing it.

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Re: Yellow dragon fruit.
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2014, 04:03:06 PM »
Thanks...all.
Here is my progress from July 2013 to now...i still do not know where I can plant all of them  :)



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Re: Yellow dragon fruit.
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2014, 05:56:51 PM »
Nice seedlings!

Good luck with them, and keep us informed on how the do for you.  It would be great to have the Yellow Undatus available in California.

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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2015, 11:56:40 AM »
Thanks...all.
Here is my progress from July 2013 to now...i still do not know where I can plant all of them  :)




Update: August 10, 2015...two years  later from seeds...
finally I  only kept and planted two in ground and one in container...hopefully they will have yellow dragon fruit in next two years...If any of them reverse back to red color fruit... it will be ax ... >:(









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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2017, 03:43:35 PM »
Almost 4 years, Now the yellow draon fruits has a first flowers  :)



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Re: Yellow dragon fruit.
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2017, 03:54:34 PM »
Great progress. Hope you get good fruits from it.
Are you going to pollinate it or wait to see if it's self fruitful?

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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2017, 03:57:05 PM »
Thank you, fyliu
I will leave the bees do their job for one year to see whether it will set fruit or not.
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« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2017, 04:03:40 PM »
When the time comes, see if the stamen and pistil are equal in length. Most of the time the pistil sticks out way too much and the bees just ignore that part of the flower and don't pollinate it.

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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2017, 05:04:46 PM »
The fruit from the Yellow Undatus was really bland. I don't remember which thread I posted about the taste. It tastes about the same as the typical supermarket white fleshed variety of Dragonfruit.

The Megalanthus on the other hand is a very sweet and tasty fruit.

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« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2017, 12:00:46 AM »
Yes, simon_grow, the yellow dragon fruit I ate in Hawaii was very bland.

I also notice with my other dragon fruits: red and white fleshs.  I  feed them with cow manure or chicken manure, and spray them with Epsom salt.  Their fruits are very sweet.

Filiu, I  will keep my eye on the flower. Thanks
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« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2017, 11:26:59 PM »
Very beautiful setup. Thank you for the inspiration.

I'm planning to step up my yellow dragon fruit into a similar configuration.

Almost 4 years, Now the yellow draon fruits has a first flowers  :)



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