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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona tree ID
« on: November 22, 2023, 09:24:23 AM »
Probably chirimoya aka reticulata.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How does ilama REALLY taste, and what would you rate it ?/10
« on: October 25, 2023, 12:05:17 PM »It's been a while since I've had them, but the flavor was quite good, just a notch below cherimoya and atemoya. However, getting them to fruit and remain healthy is a challenge. They are plagued by leaf hopper, which causes stunted leaves, chlorosis, and ultimately an unhealthy and stunted tree. Seed borer may also present a problem. And it usually requires boron to set fruit. I've only seen one productive / healthy ilama tree in south florida. I'd say it is only suited for the more advanced growers.
Green leaf hoppers have been a major issue in my back yard lately. Hard to grow sugar apple now without the use of some sort of insecticide. They also attack the new slow growing leaves of the Viejo mamey. They don’t attack my Pace, but do also attack the Pantin, but not as bad.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Buy Mamey Sapote "Lorina" in Ft. Myers or Naples
« on: October 20, 2023, 01:05:12 PM »
Lorina? Never heard of that cultivar. Is it actually Lorito?
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vidal Redondo Mamey
« on: September 26, 2023, 08:47:14 PM »Guys. I messed up and cut a mamey in half and it is rock hard but orange. Any chance it will ripen or should I throw it in the trash?
That sucks. Don't think that would ripen correctly now. Just wait until it gets soft with no firmness next time.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Vidal Redondo Mamey
« on: September 26, 2023, 08:44:48 PM »looks awesome Alex! I've tried Pantin, Pace and magana for sure. Not sure if I've had others, I often buy them and the varieties are mixed. Waiting for the tree at home to flower/set, hopefully sooner than later. How does viejo compare to pantin? Hope to try Vidal Redondo one day too.
Thanks! So far, the viejo has been kinda average in flavor. Not much sweetness at all. I've read that quality can vary with Viejo. If most fruits are like that, I might end-up getting it top worked to another variety if possible. It's a shame, cause the color and texture is really nice. The fruits I've had from Pantin/Key-West were richer, more creamy, and much sweeter. The only downside to the Pantin is that the the larger fruits can ripen unevenly. One part would be perfectly ripe and the other part of the same fruit would be moldy and over-ripe.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is your favourite tropical fruit?
« on: September 24, 2023, 11:22:17 AM »
Mamey sapote
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Vidal Redondo Mamey
« on: September 23, 2023, 08:39:27 PM »
Bought this cool specimen at Lara Farms last weekend and planted it. Looking forward to tasting it in 3 to 5 years.
My list of mamey cultivars have been growing lately. Currently have Pantin, Viejo, Pace, Cepeda Especial, and the newly planted Vidal Redondo. Might add a "Papa" mamey later on or Whitman Green Sapote. For now, been enjoying some Viejo fruits. Last year my tree did the same thing. Ripened a crop in September into October, then a second wave in December-January, and a few fruit in February.
The Pace:
Cepeda Especial (small one on the left) next to a Viejo seedling (just an experimental seedling that is likely a viejo x pantin cross):
Pantin that was recently trimmed:
My list of mamey cultivars have been growing lately. Currently have Pantin, Viejo, Pace, Cepeda Especial, and the newly planted Vidal Redondo. Might add a "Papa" mamey later on or Whitman Green Sapote. For now, been enjoying some Viejo fruits. Last year my tree did the same thing. Ripened a crop in September into October, then a second wave in December-January, and a few fruit in February.
The Pace:
Cepeda Especial (small one on the left) next to a Viejo seedling (just an experimental seedling that is likely a viejo x pantin cross):
Pantin that was recently trimmed:
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: K-40 Mamey Sapote
« on: July 02, 2023, 03:46:15 PM »
Email Julian of Lara Farms and/or Alex of Tropical Acres. The first time I've seen K40 was on the Lara Farms website. I'm curious about it as well.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Pantin Mamey Ripening in May?
« on: May 27, 2023, 06:07:15 PM »
Has anyone had a pantin mamey tree ripen fruit in May, instead of late June into August? There is another cultivar called "Florida" that is supposed to be similar to Pantin, but ripens in May/June, so I am wondering if I have a Florida cultivar instead. I have some pictures of the tree and fruit. The fruit is rich, sweet, pasty (not watery) and the pulp is a pink-orange/salmon color (does not get red/pink).
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I picked my first Rollinia today
« on: April 27, 2023, 12:34:17 AM »
Cool! From the videos I watched about Rollinia, it gets mucousy/slimy if you let it ripen too much. Someone recommended harvesting the fruit when it has some green and yellow, then eating it the next day for the best texture. I actually just got my rollinia seedlings that I ordered online on Etsy from a local seller in Jupiter FL. I'm looking forward to growing and tasting my first rollinia fruit within a few years.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: is this mamey seed germinated?
« on: April 23, 2023, 02:50:01 AM »
That is part of the seed. The reddish pointed end should be where the tap root would grow from. The seed will then open up into two halves and a shoot that would produce leaves would pop out once the root has grown out. I would plant that seed with the pointed end facing downward at around a 20 to 45 degree angle with the top part of the seed (non-pointed blunt end) just barely below or at soil level. I've seen them planted vertically into the soil with the seed buried 3/4ths of the way. Looks like the seed is primed for growth.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Unknown Seedling (Abiu?)
« on: April 21, 2023, 01:55:50 PM »
Hello everyone,
I've had this interesting looking plant growing in my backyard for a couple of years and it had been whacked with a weed-eater once. It looks different compared to all the other weeds/wild plants that are growing around. It was planted by some random animal. It kinda looks like an Abiu based on the pictures that I've seen, but I'm not sure. I would greatly appreciate any input as to what this plant is.
I've had this interesting looking plant growing in my backyard for a couple of years and it had been whacked with a weed-eater once. It looks different compared to all the other weeds/wild plants that are growing around. It was planted by some random animal. It kinda looks like an Abiu based on the pictures that I've seen, but I'm not sure. I would greatly appreciate any input as to what this plant is.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropicalgrower's 04/18/2023 Yard Update
« on: April 20, 2023, 03:34:34 PM »Looks great!
Do you do anything beyond fertilizer for your mamey trees? I planted a Lorrito and Pace last year and am hoping that I can meet their nutritional needs growing out west in SWR.
Thanks! I have been using southern Ag 10-10-10 granular fertilizer 3 times a year (spring, middle to late summer, and late fall) and southern ag Essential Minor Elements granular fertilizer during the winter months (once or twice during the winter).
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pantin Mamey Height Reduction.
« on: April 18, 2023, 02:34:18 PM »5 years later...
Amazing update, looks like you need another height reduction haha
Thanks! Yup, it does. I'm weighting to harvest some fruit first before trimming it. Thankfully, the tree seems to be actively growing away from the power lines, but I want to make sure that it doesn't get too close.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pantin Mamey Height Reduction.
« on: April 18, 2023, 02:33:18 PM »Your tree turned out nice. Did you get any fruits on your tree?
Thanks! Hopefully about to enjoy my first fruits this June-August. lol
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Tropicalgrower's 04/18/2023 Yard Update
« on: April 18, 2023, 02:32:09 PM »
Pantin Mamey holding it's first set of fruit to maturity since planting it as a 7 gallon tree in November of 2012.
Viejo Mamey planted in 2014 as a 3 gallon.
Gary Mango, originally Nam Doc Mai #4 tree.
Coconut Cream Mango.
Carrie Mango.
Grafted Miami Soursop, nothing much to look at, but should sprout back to life soon.
Grafted Hipolito Caimito:
Tikal Sapodilla.
Alano Sapodilla (much more dwarfish).
Sugar Apple coming out of dormancy. Background bananas are mysore and manzano (or namwah).
1 year old Pace Mamey.
Ross Sapote.
Viejo Mamey planted in 2014 as a 3 gallon.
Gary Mango, originally Nam Doc Mai #4 tree.
Coconut Cream Mango.
Carrie Mango.
Grafted Miami Soursop, nothing much to look at, but should sprout back to life soon.
Grafted Hipolito Caimito:
Tikal Sapodilla.
Alano Sapodilla (much more dwarfish).
Sugar Apple coming out of dormancy. Background bananas are mysore and manzano (or namwah).
1 year old Pace Mamey.
Ross Sapote.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pantin Mamey Height Reduction.
« on: April 18, 2023, 01:56:08 PM »
5 years later...
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Another 'Pickering' problem . . .
« on: April 08, 2023, 02:01:52 PM »
Gently take it out of the pot and see if it is root bound and if the soil is too wet. Try to up-pot the tree into a 3 gallon pot with fresh good-draining potting soil. One thing I've noticed about regular miracle gro potting soil that I use is that can stay very wet for a long time even though it seems to drain very well and that the top layer looks dry making me think that it needs water. Maybe try cactus potting mix. That tends to drain better and not stay too wet from what I've read and I've heard of people using that mix for potted mangoes. Personally, I would like to try it myself.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Variegated Tikal Sapodilla
« on: April 01, 2023, 01:42:42 PM »
Just a cool finding I discovered in my Tikal sapodilla tree. That small branch always produced variegated leaves for the past few years, but did not grow as much as the other regular branches, probably due to it's location in the middle of the canopy. I am planning on air layering it during my vacation as an experiment.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pace vs Excalibur Mamey
« on: February 09, 2023, 12:42:44 PM »Thanks Squam
I was expecting it to be darker than that. From memory people describe it as deep red or blood red.
Interestingly there was a person on the Houz forum named Lisa (GCmastiffs) who uploaded a photo of mamey sapote that had extremely red pulp. She purchased it from Excalibur, lost the tag, and was then told that she had Pantin. But Pantin does not have red pulp. So I thought she had Excalibur, but the fruit shape doesn't seem narrow enough for that cultivar.
Lara farms uses that picture for the cultivar “Vidal redondo” online or at least when I choose the Vidal cultivar, the page moves to that picture in the list of different mamey pictures that he has. What’s weird is that I’ve seen pictures of pantin with more of an orange flesh and with pink-red flesh like the one posted by Noel aka Florida green man. The one I ate from Lara farms was a late season pantin and when I scratched the fruit, it was brick red. When I opened that fruit, it was more of an orange color instead of the pink red color of Noel’s mamey from his old pantin mamey tree. I wonder if there are sub varieties of pantin or maybe the growing conditions effect the color and quality of fruit.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Curly leaves on yellow sapote
« on: December 25, 2022, 11:28:25 AM »
Looks like the leaves are drying up. Likely transplant shock from breaking the root. Just keep it well watered and maybe give it a bit of shade with some shade cloth or maybe a large potted plant that can cast a shadow over it until it pulls through.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lara Farms tree source
« on: March 12, 2022, 08:59:42 PM »
I've gotten a 1 gallon Ross Sapote and a Pace Mamey from Lara Farms. They both arrived in excellent shape.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Viejo Mamey Sapote Pics.
« on: December 21, 2021, 02:00:34 PM »
My Viejo mamey fruits are ripening on schedule based on UF's mamey cultivar chart (December). It is not a very sweet mamey, but it does have medium sweetness plus great flavor and velvety texture. I really enjoy them. Now, if only my 9 year old grafted pantin can hold fruit to maturity, that would be great. lol I have now been fertilizing it regularly for the past year and it now has a record amount of flowers and pea sized fruitlets. Lets see if I can enjoy them in August of 2023. One thing about the Viejo is that the fruit does not seem take as long from flower to mature fruit. The mamey fruits I am harvesting and eating now were from the fall/winter bloom of 2020, so it took more or less 13 months.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Question About Tree Paint
« on: July 20, 2021, 12:50:44 AM »Mango grows straight through paint for me on mature branches (only done a few though). I just use cheap watered down latex paint. Is IV organics superior in some way?
As Rob said you only need to paint the top/part facing the sun anyway.
Good to know. I was a bit concerned about the paint forming a tough flexible film that won't allow new growth to push through. Thanks! I was originally planning on buying regular latex paint from the local hardware store, but nowadays, it seems that they can contain ingredients that are harmful based on what I've read. I just didn't want to risk it, so I bought a tree paint that I saw on youtube once a couple of years back and has good ratings.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Question About Tree Paint
« on: July 20, 2021, 12:45:55 AM »Guess you missed the fact that you shouldn't remove more than 1/3 of the growth at any one trimming?
Sorry, can't answer your question about growing and paint. Maybe dont paint where you want the growth to occur. Also keep in mind, paint should only really be applied where direct sun exposure would be an issue
Gosh darn it. Whoops.
Thanks for your input. I'm just going to be painting the part of the exposed branch that faces the sun as you've recommended.
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