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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Where to buy citrus online (EUROPE)
« on: March 26, 2020, 08:59:20 AM »
Ahaha, sure you did! Given that i have some plants even in Cortona, you actually touched two of my backyards. Should have written me we could have attempted to visit the citrus in Villa Castello. But well, i guess maybe it's not the best time to go meeting some italians. 

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Marsh Grapefruit
« on: June 21, 2019, 08:26:47 PM »
"Picked" means it was still attached to the tree right? It didn't drop, right?
I'm very interested even if i think that my low temperatures at least once per winter under -5C won't allow me to have juicy fruits.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Marsh Grapefruit
« on: June 20, 2019, 05:05:09 PM »
Hey Millet, how long your fruit hang on the tree?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Marsh Grapefruit
« on: June 16, 2019, 07:24:20 PM »
Personally i think that a good white grapefruit has to be among the best citrus. It has everything. Sweetness to hook you, tangyness to remain interesting, bitternes to be remembered.
I have had report of good tasty grapefruit being grown in Mediterranean countries, but without having tasted a florida grown one, i can't really say if they were good for real. What i thought, about heat, was such: why can't they be left to hang on tree for two consecutive summers? Some bitter oranges manage to do that and a lot of citrus hold on tree for long. If grapefruits can hold on tree till the end of the next summer after ther pollination i'm sure the problem of lack of heat can be avoided? Anyone has ever tried? I never grown a grapefruit for so long that i could try that myself. What do you guys think?

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichang lemon Sebastien
« on: June 08, 2019, 06:42:55 AM »
I see what you mean, i have heard that not dormant citrus become progressively less resistant the more they have to endure a temperature, so the same temperature they can shrug off the first time in december, can kill them if does come back again in january. So duration is definitively an issue.

I heard you talk a lot aboyt the 5 start, can you elaborate a little on this plant? What makes it "special"?

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichang lemon Sebastien
« on: June 06, 2019, 05:29:24 PM »
Yes, but that kind of temperature is common in my garden too because i live in a closed valley. This year minimum temperature has been -8C.
I think i have read somewhere else, in one of your posts, that your hypothesis for such bad behavior of ichang lemon was the lack of a proper dormancy in warmer climate. If that's the case it would be even worse. I thought i could have attempted to solve it by grafting it on poncirus but it doesn't give much hope the fact that yours died anyway.
Fun fact. Few years ago i got a shangyan lemon from switzerland (i think you know the guy who sent me the scions). It's very spiny. I don't know what of those clones it is. However i grafted it on poncirus. Well, i left it in a small pot for years and this year it got the -8 completly unfazed. To think about it, i never gave it any shelter in last years. I kept it on the north side of my house, in few occasions the soil remained frozen for days. The plant is really in a small pot with little fertilizer and little water. I wonder if plants somehow become stronger if hardened with smaller nitrogen doses? This would also help them in avoiding long growing season in autum. I don't know, it's just an idea.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichang lemon Sebastien
« on: June 06, 2019, 03:45:07 PM »
Did you try it from a specific clone, or was this common with ichangs?

I will try to send them a mail then, and i'll see what they are going to amnswer. Thank you!

Oh, i see. I was wondering if they can ship inside EU? That's the reason why i didn't look for eisenhut.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichang lemon Sebastien
« on: June 05, 2019, 07:41:43 PM »
the picture of CRC1215 sure is tempting considering that it should be able to withstand less than -10C. I wonder ho much fruits can take, and also, how long fruit can be stored on tree.

Hey ilya do you know where this lemon is sold in europe?
I got this plant several years ago from Zdeněk Černoch,  it was also sold by Adavo.
But because of  "false Yuko" name it was removed from there catalogue.
May be Zdenek still have it, but I am not sure that he is still in business.

Too bad this could have been really interesting. Adavo should restock in a couple of months maybe i can find it there?
Zdenek surely hasn't it on his catalog of available plants now; hopefully it is still in business, since i sent him 60 last monday to get some plants!  ;D

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichang lemon Sebastien
« on: June 04, 2019, 03:18:27 PM »
Thank you for reply. I stumbled on that post during the research i made before asking, but the question florian asked remains unaswered. What sets apart "Sebastien" from other ichang lemons? A person i know says it's less spiny but was unable to get the fruit so i don't know if there are other differences. If that's just a name that means "common ichang lemon coming from alias" i probably should have just bought the 153.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Ichang lemon Sebastien
« on: June 03, 2019, 04:14:34 PM »
I'm about to get this one. In what is different from standard ichang lemons? I have hard that it is almost thornless. What about the taste of fruits? are they usable as lemon substitute? How long they hang on the tree after the winter?

O a unrelated note, i'm also gettin the ichang lemon 153. Sometimes i see it referred as the same stuff as crc 1215 and sometimes see them treated as different clones. Are they the same, or are they different?

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Japan acid citruses
« on: June 03, 2019, 04:06:54 PM »
Thank you Radoslav for your reports, comprehensive report on japan citrus are hard to come by because of language barrier.

Hey ilya do you know where this lemon is sold in europe? I'm searching for a lemon lookalike to plant in the garden since my place is too cold for true lemons but id' like a lemon lookalike for decoration and fruits.

I believe most of them are lost now.

That's really sad. Both for the loss in itself, and for the effort people put in that pursuit now gone to waste.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: House in greenhouse. Citrus garden
« on: June 03, 2019, 03:52:13 PM »
Beautiful color, you must be rightfully proud!

Citrus General Discussion / Re: House in greenhouse. Citrus garden
« on: June 01, 2019, 09:35:39 PM »
Very nice plants Samodelkin


Beautiful area, amazing story.

I've got a couple of sticks grafted of Pomona seedless lemon, top working trees.  Anyone tried that one?  I assume it's Italian with name like that.

AFAIK Pomona limetta took its name from Pomona, California. The clone is very similar (possibly the same thing) as Bergamot of tunisi or limetta romana dolce. I grew all those three but at the end i got rid of most of them. The only difference i saw, if i remember well, is the flower's colour. All of those fruits are acidless. The peel aroma is very nice, much bergamot-like. But the pulp is really insipid.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Nice read
« on: June 01, 2019, 08:47:35 PM »
Funny thing is, that place is about 200m away from my work place. Adriano, if you need hints on the opening days drop me a line, in fact the villa isn't opened every day of the year. So be sure to check in advance.

is it open on 12. of june? I should be passing by Florence at about 12-14 h.

Unfortunately not.
4-7-11-12-14-19-20-21-25-27 June 2019 will be closed. All the other days it should be open. Last entrance at 18.
Information here:

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Siamese Sweet Pomelo
« on: May 29, 2019, 05:26:04 PM »
I know that. I was hoping to end with an hybrid in the same ballpark of thomasville, which would cover mostly of italy's plains.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Siamese Sweet Pomelo
« on: May 29, 2019, 04:00:23 PM »
But my point for avoiding P. trifoliata, is exactly the "other flavors". Apparently crossing with Siamese sweet can lessen the problem of sourness, while can't do much for poncirin.
Once you rule out p. trifoliata, the second best is papeda.
It's just a fantasy for now (and i guess it will remain a fantasy if i can't find a siamese sweet, but i was wondering if this can make some sense)

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Siamese Sweet Pomelo
« on: May 28, 2019, 07:46:08 PM »
It's very interesting. I must admit, i don't know much about citrus breeding, the only thing i have understood is that citrus usually show some characteristics in the offspring wich are intermediate among the parents.
Given this, i was thinking, maybe if siamese sweet worked so nicely as parent tree, it would be interesting to attempt to cross it with one (or more) of the palatable hardy papeda (i was thinking to shangyuan lemons) in order to attempt to get some nice offspring from such cross, with valuable characteristics, what do you think?
Few years ago i also managed to get a corsican citron, which should be acidless, with the same idea in mind, to attempt to cross it with some other citrus (nagami kumquat was my original idea) in order to attempt to breed an interesting citrus.
I see that also maltese orage are acidless, but they are also not much interesting for breeding.

Citrus General Discussion / Siamese Sweet Pomelo
« on: May 28, 2019, 03:27:43 PM »
I read everywhere about this plant as a very common parent for a variety of citrus, but i never have seen it offered for sale or in a collection. It's very rare, unreleased, commonly sold with another name or what else?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Nice read
« on: May 28, 2019, 03:10:08 PM »
I will check openings tomorrow, will let you know.

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