Author Topic: Can anyone identify this mango (Read 2870 times)

BPDUKE · « **on:** January 03, 2020, 08:25:23 AM »

I was wondering if anyone could identify this Mango Type. It is in Columbia and is different from most varieties in the region. I have some seeds from it. It is not a grafted tree. The fruit is of very high quality. Sweet and flavorful with some fibers.

Future · « **Reply #1 on:** January 03, 2020, 12:59:17 PM »

Looks polyembryonic. Is that correct? Fruit shape reminds of Sigsiput...but I'm not familiar with leaf, growth habit.

Guanabanus · « **Reply #2 on:** January 03, 2020, 10:53:39 PM »

It may be one of a kind, but if it is polyembryonic, then there should be others of it around, and most of your seeds should come true to the parent, after a possibly long juvenility period.

BPDUKE · « **Reply #3 on:** January 04, 2020, 09:08:15 PM »

The tree has been there a long time. It is in a yard and it has sprouts from the seeds from time to time but they have not let one grow from it. The seed was probably started and planted there like most of the Mango trees in the area. I am getting some seeds from it.

BPDUKE · « **Reply #4 on:** January 04, 2020, 09:17:40 PM »

The tree in in Monteria, Cordoba Columbia. The tree has been there for over 20 years and it was started from seed. It is about 30 ft tall. Here is the seed.

Orkine · « **Reply #5 on:** January 04, 2020, 10:10:40 PM »

Do you have a picture of the seed inside the husk?

BPDUKE · « **Reply #6 on:** January 04, 2020, 10:20:13 PM »

Is this what you mean?

BPDUKE · « **Reply #7 on:** January 04, 2020, 10:21:44 PM »

I can get you any picture you need to help in identification

BPDUKE · « **Reply #8 on:** January 05, 2020, 08:36:56 AM »

I checked with the owner. They had another one of these trees in the backyard. It was around 40 some years old and it was beginning to lose its production capabilities and the tree pictured above is from the seed of the original tree. The original was taken down, So the seeds are polyembryonic.

Apparently the locals come to get fruit from this tree and ask what type it is all the time. When I get the seeds I will try to raise some. The owners have never found a similar tree in their area.

Orkine · « **Reply #9 on:** January 05, 2020, 01:18:27 PM »

See what I mean at this link.
If you have a fruit you can do this, if you dont you will have to wait until you have a fruit or seed to dehusk.
It will help resolve the question of if it is polyembryonic, or not.

https://mikesbackyardnursery.com/2014/12/how-to-grow-a-mango-tree-from-a-seed/

BPDUKE · « **Reply #10 on:** January 05, 2020, 06:53:20 PM »

Thanks I have about a dozen seeds coming and plan to start them. I just was wondering if anyone had an idea of what type it was before I put a lot of effort into them. The fruit never gets totally yellow. I have a video as well but I cannot post it. The tree produces fruit most of the year.
If i get them started and someone is interested I would give them some to try. Fruit is clean to taste, sweet a little like a nectarine cross with ripe persimmon flavor. Only way I can explain it. Anyway thanks for the help.

BPDUKE · « **Reply #11 on:** January 08, 2020, 01:05:04 AM »

These are a couple of the seeds I got in today. I do not know if it would help with identification.

lebmung · « **Reply #12 on:** January 08, 2020, 08:31:02 AM »

This is a green mango from Southeast Asia. Most probably Kieowsavoy which is the most popular in Thailand. Hard to identify it only from pictures. It's eaten green, but it can be tasty when it's ripe. Very abd shelf life, no more then a week so it's not commercially grown. The seed inside is small and polyembrionic, even though not many will sprout.

I grow similar mangoes in pots. You can look at my page for the fruit.

BPDUKE · « **Reply #13 on:** January 08, 2020, 12:44:11 PM »

Thank you Lebmung for the information. I really appreciate it. I will try to start a few to see how it goes. This tree is everbearing in my girlfriends hometown in Columbia. And they eat them after they start to turn yellow and are very sweet. They never turn all the way yellow. Probably a cultural difference between eating them green vs soft ripe and sweet. Good information thanks.

Orkine · « **Reply #14 on:** January 08, 2020, 06:29:15 PM »

Quote from: BPDUKE on January 08, 2020, 01:05:04 AM

These are a couple of the seeds I got in today. I do not know if it would help with identification.

Duke, when you start seeds, do you start them in the hust (as in your picture) or do you remove the hust and plant the embryo on the inside?
If you remove the embryo, please share the picture. It will not help with the variety identification but it will resolve the question of the variety being poly or monoembryonic.

lebmung · « **Reply #15 on:** January 09, 2020, 09:17:35 AM »

Notice it's called like this because when it's green and not ripe it has a crunchy not sour flavour.

Here is how it looks a green mango var 'Falan'. Most probably you don't have this variety but a more popular one. Unfortunately is quite sensitive to cold compared to others.

BPDUKE · « **Reply #16 on:** January 12, 2020, 07:01:52 AM »

I have planted one seed so far. I did remove it from the husk to plant. I will show you one of the others today as I dehush it to plant it. Regretfully you photos have not come up on the thread. I would really like to see tham.

BPDUKE · « **Reply #17 on:** January 12, 2020, 11:52:24 AM »

here is a picture of a seed out of the husk

Guanabanus · « **Reply #18 on:** January 12, 2020, 01:05:09 PM »

There is one more layer to remove, which is like paper or cellophane. Then we will be able to see the seed.

BPDUKE · « **Reply #19 on:** January 13, 2020, 09:15:18 AM »

ok here it is

Guanabanus · « **Reply #20 on:** January 13, 2020, 09:48:13 PM »

Good job!

Looks like two embryos.

BPDUKE · « **Reply #21 on:** January 14, 2020, 06:41:27 AM »

Thanks Har.

Lebmung I am finally able to see your pictures. They are excellent. It certainly is very close.

lebmung · « **Reply #22 on:** January 16, 2020, 05:18:45 PM »

even though poly most probably only one will survive, with the right conditions it will be able to flower in 3 years

BPDUKE · « **Reply #23 on:** January 23, 2020, 12:19:59 PM »

The seeds seem to be viable

BPDUKE · « **Reply #24 on:** January 23, 2020, 12:22:43 PM »

If I get a few of these going in pots would anyone like to try one? Again I am not sure exactly what this Mango is but it is highly regarded in the area where it is growing.

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