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New Citrumelos: Iva Swingle and Dingle

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BorisR:

--- Quote from: mikkel on December 06, 2024, 01:10:47 PM ---btw How can I resize the pictures via the BB Code?

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Ilya11:
My Z82 flowered for the first time this year. It refused to flower for years , the budwood was from Mikkel.






Probably the best citrumelo that I tasted, juicy, early ripening ( beginning of November), some bitterness, but not exceeding, good balance sour/sugar 13°Brix, outside some poncirus smell, but no smell at all in juice, no internal sticky oils.
Interestingly, on Eisenhut nursery description it mentioned that "according to an old list it could be cv. Sacaton R.W. Hudson"

Mulberry0126:

--- Quote from: mikkel on December 06, 2024, 12:27:47 PM ---Hello,

the Bishop Citrumelo in your video, the one marked as “not Swingle”, looks very similar to a N°82 from the Eisenhut nursery in Switzerland.
The parentage of N°82 is also unknown. The only certainty is that it comes from the citrus grower Bernhard Voss.
The fruit quality is quite good, I would say it is one of the best hybrid varieties.
@flo can certainly give a more detailed description, he has a fruiting tree. I have only been able to try a few fruits.

There is another type, which I call BB Citrumelo. This also comes from Bernhard Voss, but was a mix-up or it is simply the rootstock that has taken over. According to the label, it should be a Morton.
There are a few differences to N°82 but I suspect it could be the same variety.
BB Citrumelo has a mild flavor, not very sour but not sweet either. I'll be sent some more fruit soon and will be able to report back better.

Just to start with, I wonder if “not Swingle” and these two could be connected somehow. In the beginning, Bernhard Voss received many varieties from the US and some plants or seedlings even returned to the US and only get mature there. Carolina Lime, for example, is a seedling he sent to Stan.

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Sorry, I didn't see this message at first when I asked about BB citrumelo. The Iva Swingle that we have here definitely sounds very similar to those. I'll attach some pictures when I'm able to. It was one of the best citrumelos I had, which was surprising since I didn't expect it to be very different from Swingle. It's no wonder N°82 tastes so good too, 13° Bx is quite good for a citrumelo from what I've seen.
I wondered about Carolina Lime's origin, it seems similar but not the same as Clem x Tri x Clem. It's probably one of my favorite hardy citrus I've tried. I wish it was easier to share these varieties between the US and EU.

Mulberry0126:






The tree in the photo is the Bishop (Iva Swingle) citrumelo. The photo was provided by Alan Bishop.

Skandiberg:
That's a beautiful tree.

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