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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Leaf cuttings citrus propagation
« on: October 23, 2025, 07:04:59 PM »
A Last update for my leaf cuttings:

They finally died without making a shoot. So it's not a success for me. I was not able to have a New plant from a leaf cutting.

Maybe some of you succeeded ?

I know a guy in my city who grew an orange tree from a single leaf.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Bifoliate Arcobal seedling
« on: August 05, 2025, 07:28:03 PM »
Hi everyone,

I made an interesting discovery today: one of my seed-grown Arcobal orange seedlings has produced a bifoliate leaf. It’s the first time I’ve seen this on this plant, and I don’t recall any of the other seedlings showing bifoliate leaves. Does this suggest the seedling might be a hybrid (perhaps pollinated by a parent with Poncirus genetics) or can bifoliate foliage simply appear on its own from time to time?

The person who gave me the seeds also grows US-119, so that may be the most likely pollen parent.

I’d love to hear what you think!

Best,
Alexandre




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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Amalfitan Rangpur?
« on: August 05, 2025, 07:17:32 PM »
About a year ago, I had to choose just one seedling because of limited space. I kept the one with the “mandarin-like” leaves, and those leaves have kept their unusual shape for a citrus.

As you can see in the pictures, there’s almost no distinction between the petiole and the blade. I’ve been growing it for roughly 18 months (all the seedlings were slow growers), and the leaf shape hasn’t changed. Have you seen this trait in other varieties?

Another curiosity: the leaves have virtually no lemon or citron aroma, even though the plant came from an Amalfi citron seed. When I crush them, the scent is so faint that I can’t compare it to any other citrus.

I’m intrigued, so I grafted a scion onto a C-35 rootstock—fingers crossed it takes.

Let me know what you think!














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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Bergyuzu (Bergamot x Yuzu)
« on: June 26, 2025, 09:58:42 AM »
leaves don't look very yuzu, but how do they smell when crushed?
I could see some nice bergayuzukosho being made from the peel.

Right, there is one with a pointed leaf, but the winged petiole is still missing. Maybe it's still too early to have a good call on this.

I still haven't crushed any leaves since they are too small. I'm worried about killing them. But it will be a core test. I'll mostly all come down
to the oil glands and perfume powder.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Bergyuzu (Bergamot x Yuzu)
« on: June 26, 2025, 09:56:19 AM »
Very interesting! 

I have a yuzu but have never had a bergamot fruit.  I'm interested if you get something with traits from both, or if it end up just like one of the two parents.


Thanks! Yeah, that's exactly what I'm wondering as well... That's why I want to keep 5-6 seedlings and graft them to the same rootstock. Hopefully, at least one will have the right mix between Bergamot and Yuzu!

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Citrus General Discussion / Bergyuzu (Bergamot x Yuzu)
« on: June 25, 2025, 12:02:00 PM »
Hi everyone,

I’m thrilled to share a few seedlings from my very first citrus cross, and it happens to be one I’ve been dreaming about for years!

At the end of last November, I pollinated castrated flowers of my bergamot tree using Yuzu pollen. Only one fruit set in early December, and I honestly wasn’t expecting much.

Fast forward to early summer: unfortunately, my bergamot tree began suffering from root rot, so I had to remove all the fruit. To my surprise, and with a bit of luck, that lone fruit was packed with seeds (a rare find in bergamot, in my experience).

Now, I have several Bergyuzu seedlings growing, and some are already starting to push their first true leaves. My hope is to eventually select seedlings with the most promising aromatic traits (ideally suited for perfume or fine cuisine) and graft 5–6 of the best onto rootstock later this summer.

Curious to hear your thoughts and observations.

All the best,
Alexandre


Fruit set in Dec. 2024


Early fruit cut due to root rot in May 2025


Bergyuzu seedlings:



















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I feel very happy, after 6 years of work, I finally have my first hybrid created by me! 😊 Genoa Lemon hybrid 🍋 x Mandarin Lemon 🍊 (rampurg).
There you can see his parents and the hybrid in the middle.




The genetic mix is ​​this: Citrus medica, bitter orange, and mandarin. I've included the fruits for comparison. The yellow lemon is a cross between Citrus medica and bitter orange, and the rampurg lime is a cross between Citrus medica and mandarin.

you can see the features: the hybrid has a lemon scent 🍋, lemon color, and a flavor closer to lemon 🍋. but smaller in size, without a nipple, and thinner skin. plus the skin peels off the pulp easily. it's weird that it's full of rampurg-shaped seeds, but the first flowers it produced never had pollen... I don't know how it turned out. but it was very dry, the juice was kind of spicy and bitter, so this harvest seems to me to have turned out worse than its parents... but the good thing is that it flowered early... I think it took a year, although later I'll look at the photos to see how long it took until a fruit set.



Congratulations, my friend. That is a very nice-looking hybrid! I'm looking forward to seeing all the other great things you have in the pipeline.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Sleeping graft
« on: April 25, 2025, 09:36:58 AM »
Last year, I grafted a Bizarria chimera scion onto my Hamlin orange tree. Callus tissue formed, but most of the scion died, leaving no part with a bud—just the callus tissue at the graft union (the V section). My question is: is there any chance I could apply BAP paste to this callus tissue to stimulate bud formation, even though there’s technically no remaining bud tissue?

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I did Australian red center lime/ blood lime x Yuzu last year! Unfortunately the seedling dampened off. The rescue graft grew for a bit and then died as well. The leaves on the hybrid were basically tiny and yuzu-like with petioles and a nice scent.

What a shame they all died. I would have loved to see that exciting cross.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: All those new Madison Citrus varieties
« on: March 06, 2025, 08:57:46 PM »
I guess my first question is, what the heck is a Citrum?
Citrumelo  ;D The real question is... what is K X R UF?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: citrus flaviculpus Ougonkan
« on: March 06, 2025, 06:29:54 PM »
In 2018, I sowed a seeds of ougonkan. In 2020 I grafted twig to the crown of big citrus volkameriana, aprox. 3m above the ground.
First flowers. :)



Congrats! Love to see people growing citrus from seed and getting to the fruiting stage. Keep us posted on what the fruit looks like.

Best,
Alex

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Crispy Honey Kumquat - Lunar New Year
« on: January 31, 2025, 10:03:39 AM »
I tested these kumquats, and honestly can't relate to the hype. Also, I made a couple of family members test them, and they didn't enjoyed it.

Common nagami kumquat is far superior (except for the seeds)!

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Wanted: Australian Red Lime
« on: January 28, 2025, 09:50:07 AM »
Hi all,

I'm in Canada, but would anyone here be kind enough to send me some budwood of the Australian red lime? Can't find it anywhere here. I would pay for shipping.

Many thanks.  ;D

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I did read up on why or when should a fruit tree start fruiting. Since I'm an engineer I do like to research anything that gets me interested in how it is made, to solve a problem.

It seems you do need energy from the sun (or equivalent lighting) to give the plant energy stored in the roots to be able to change from juvenile stag to mature stag which will allow buds to have flowers, then fruit. Also, there are studies showing a tree needs a certain number of leaf nodes on the same branch (e.g.  apple seedlings didn’t flower until they reached 77 internodes and didn’t fruit until 122 internodes). So, it might be a good idea to put it near a window with good sun exposer, don't cut the central leader, use larger pot, and proper fertilizing might get it going.

You're question "Do you have any other suggestions for encouraging it to bloom this spring?" isn't easy to properly answer by anyone. There are other fruit forums that have been discussing this question of how and why fruit trees transition from juvenile to mature stage for 2 years now and there is no definite answer yet. It's a good question, but no easy or right answer for you.


I know, it's the million-dollar question for us haha! I just saw Mulberry's RES post, which is quite interesting, but applies more to my younger seedling (Sfusato Amalfitano, Arcobal orange & Amalfi Citron X Mandarin).


I finally saw the tree in person (it's about 6'+ tall). Leaves smell different than what we usually find in grapefruit... I'm leaving you guys with a couple of pictures of mature leaves, new shoots, trunk, and overall tree:

 
















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It probably won't bloom unless it gets tall enough.  There is a theory that a citrus tree requires a certain number of leaf nodes between the top and the base of the tree before it will bloom.  Not the total number of leaves on the tree but between the top and roots.  Girdling can sometimes force blooming.  Grapefruit takes longer than most citrus to bloom even when grown under more natural conditions.

Well, 45 years of growing hopefully is enough! After the test in spring, if it doesn't flower in spring or autumn, we will leave the tree to grow a tall vertical branch to reach height.

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Citrus from seed have a long juvenility period and I remember Millet saying before that grapefruit has one of the longest.  Another forum member Laaz had one from seed in his yard that fruited heavily but it was much larger than the one in that container.  It might need to get considerably larger to bear fruit, but I can't really say how much.  With so much time invested in it so far it sounds fun to continue the effort.  The trees do look nice.

Brian,

Grapefruits and Pomelos are definitely particular. Hopefully, 45 years old was enough time to get to the mature stage. Torns are quite small now. We will do a severe pruning, and repotting in spring. Will keep you guys posted.

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Hi all,

I hope you had a wonderful holiday!

A few days ago, I came across a listing on Facebook Marketplace from an older woman selling her 45-year-old grapefruit tree, which she had grown from seed. The tree has been cultivated entirely indoors and received minimal fertilizer over the years, which might explain why it has never flowered. My mother purchased it for $65, and we’re excited to give it some care in hopes of encouraging it to flower and bear fruit.

I haven’t seen the tree in person yet, but my mother mentioned that it has a VERY pleasant fragrance. The leaves have a lemony and “fruit-loopy” scent, which is unusual for grapefruit leaves. While the leaf shape resembles that of a grapefruit tree, it might actually be a grapefruit x (Meyer?) lemon hybrid. We’re hoping to uncover its true identity this spring.

Here’s our plan for early spring:


-Light and hard pruning to restore its shape.
-Repotting it in a 5-1-1 mix and a new terracotta pot.
-Fertilizing it.
-If it still doesn’t flower, allowing the soil to dry out to induce stress.

Do you have any other suggestions for encouraging it to bloom this spring?[/li][/list]


I’ve attached a few pictures of the tree and its leaves for reference.

Best regards,
Alex








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Hello everyone, I am pleased to show you another of my achievements this year. It is a hybrid of these two species and for a while I suspected that I had mixed up the seeds, since I also have a kaffir lime. Now that it is flowering, I see that the buds are almost identical to C. maxima, which clarifies the relationship.

I have discovered, through my practice, that the characteristic aroma of the kaffir lime is a very intriguing thing. It is not the smell of lime per se, but a particular characteristic, a smell like the "essence of lime", something more synthetic, very intense. I have made crosses with lemon, some of which did not inherit that smell, crosses with limequat, with kumquat and many did not inherit it. Until one time I smelled the leaves of a rare grapefruit that had a different fruit, and its seedlings smelled like a kaffir lime. Also when I picked the fruit of C. maxima, I also perceived it in the wound at the end of the fruit. My conclusion was that both plants must have the expression of that chemical substance in their genetics.

To conclude, I continued my experiments and crossed C. maxima x kaffir and analyzed the seedlings... it's strange that many of them didn't smell and others did, the same thing that happened to me with the lemon 🫣... Ultimately, I don't know how that genetic explanation works, but it's all a mystery. Perhaps an ancestor of both had that genetics and that's why it's in both in different measures and at different stages or parts.

In short, here I bring you this plant:

,leaves with short petiole sometimes subtly winged or wingless (like lemon), thick green leaves like C. maxima, more intense anthocyanin buds than lemon 🤷. flowers in clusters like C. maxima, slightly anthocyanin in bud stage. sizes of the same close to C. maxima. few thorns. its leaves smell like kaffir lime.

It flowered exactly at 4 years old (its siblings have not yet). If grown vertically, it reaches 3 meters in height (the technique is called Res, I call it "vertical cultivation").









Very nice cross !! I'm excited to see what the fruit will look like. I like that you are also doing crosses without only cold hardiness in mind like most citrus enthusiasts currently do. It can bring some very nice things to the table.

Please keep us updated!

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: lemons (and other citrus) on own roots
« on: October 07, 2024, 10:35:49 AM »
I have grafted a Mature New Zealand Lemonade bud to a seedling New Zealand Lemonade


I have 4 other NZL's on sour orange.

Hopefully, you will let some of the NZ seedling's branches produce out of curiosity. Maybe you will get something nice!


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Nice cross! Keep us updated on the seedling!

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Here is an update on the seedlings of the true Sfusato I started last Jan.

They grew quite vigorously: here is one of them (I selected poly seedlings so they are identical).










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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Amalfitan Rangpur?
« on: July 31, 2024, 09:27:40 PM »
Alexmed95,
Sorry to intervene here, but since your are in Québec, you are aware that in French citron means a lemon. Are you sure that what you bought is not just an Amalfi cost lemon?

Ilya,

Yes, I am sure since the label said "Cédrat de la Côte d'Amalfi" for this fruit. I also bought (later) both the small Amalfi Lemon (probably Sorrento) and the large Sfusato. I am growing all three varieties from seed. Of course, I know that the Citron won't be a clone of the mother tree, but now It seems that I might have interesting hybrid seedlings. I wasn't able to have poly seeds from the Sorrento, but was able to have a couple of poly seeds from the Sfusato.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Amalfitan Rangpur?
« on: July 31, 2024, 09:23:06 PM »
How do your seedlings and the original fruit compare to this Amalfi Citron from Italy ?
https://agrumilenzi.it/en/negozio/citrusen/citrons/amalfi-citron-citrus-medica/

The leaves of your seedlings look closer to this than Citron leaves ??

Also, the seed in the fruit you uploaded don't really look like Citron seed to me. They seem rather big, more like Sour Orange seed ?

Thinking that the Amalfi Citron is possibly a Citron / Sour Orange hybrid ?

The fruit does look like this Amalfi Citron from Agrumi Lenzi. As for the leaves' shape, they are closer to my seedlings than those of common citrus medica (rounded leaves just like your tree). It could be yes. If you look at the picture of all the seedlings in the pot, you can see that the one in the middle has a rather intriguing leaf shape: long and straight-winged petiole, which is uncommon to see, I think. 

Here is a closer look at this weird seedling:





Here is another seedling (one of two) I potted apart from others due to the Mandarine/Clementine-shaped leaves:
 




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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Planting seeds of Citrus Bergamia
« on: July 27, 2024, 06:30:44 PM »
Just an update on these seedlings: one of the two died (mine) of root rot I suspect. The other one (my mother's) is doing relatively well, and we can now see the shape of the mature leaves. In this case, it seems like planting a seed of Bergamot results in something closer to a normal Sour Orange. The leaves' aroma, although very nice and grape-like, isn't the same as my reel Bergamot leaves. 

Here are some pictures:







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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Amalfitan Rangpur?
« on: July 27, 2024, 02:09:21 PM »
I can take some photos of the Amalfi Sfusato lemon leaves for you. It looks different from your seedlings.

The 'mother fruit' is an Amalfitan Citron (not lemon) so the leaves should be rounded. I also planted some Sfusato Amalfitano Lemon seeds a couple of months back from a fruit I got my hands on. I selected the polyembyonic seedlings and grew them. Below is a picture of the two seedlings. I think the leaves' shapes should match that of its parent. Let me know.

Sfusato Seedlings





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