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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Calamondin/calamansi as the mother
« on: November 21, 2024, 12:09:36 PM »
My calamandarin ( from seeds, origin of eyekr) gave the first fruits this year.



Almost ripe, good mandarine smell, moderately acid,moderately sweet, no bitterness.



Big seeds inside.




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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Help with citrus identification!
« on: November 11, 2024, 11:22:01 AM »
Quote from: sc4001992 on November 11, 2024, 02:19:45 AM
Doesn't look like a cocktail grapefruit to me. It seems to have a navel on the bottom of the fruits. Can you take a photo of the fruit looking from the bottom angle. If the fruits have navel, then most likely it will be one of the navel oranges. Also, the fruit flesh would be much more orange color than a cocktail grapefruit.

It could be a seedling tree?
Navel is usually on the top of fruits

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Poncirus polyandra turning yellow
« on: November 09, 2024, 12:54:31 PM »
Could it be due to the influence of trifoliata roots?
Have you asked Sylvain if he has the same feature?

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: How to store seeds
« on: November 08, 2024, 03:21:25 AM »
From my experience the seeds stored outside till spring gave more albino (infected) seedlings.
I treat the seeds with pectolase  enzyme (available through Amazon), wash thoroughly and treat for 15 minutes with household bleach diluted ~20 fold. Than they should be washed until no chlorine smell is perceptible.
After, you can  either store them in barely wet perlite or, they can be dried , but not fully, with the skin that is still elastic and stored in the freezer in zip locked packet. I got some germination even after one year.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Another precocious poncirus
« on: November 03, 2024, 04:29:15 PM »
Skandiberg,
Do you know that not very far from your country, in Uzhgorod, Ukraine  grows and is  bringing fruits very resistant   strain of poncirus.
http://uzhgorod.in/ru/v-uzhgorode-sredy-unykalnoj-flory-rastet-naybolee-morozostojkyj-tsytrus-fotoreportazh/


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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Another precocious poncirus
« on: November 02, 2024, 06:00:43 PM »
Is it true that the flowers of original Khosta are fragrant?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Why is Poncirus not considered Citrus?
« on: November 01, 2024, 06:22:52 PM »
Xpubinervia sequence analysis
http://fruitsci.zzgss.cn/english/html/down/2024-10-21/2566.html

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: A non bitter larger Poncirus?
« on: October 29, 2024, 06:31:05 AM »
With -15C (5F) you are at the beginning of USDA zone 7a. OK for PT, but quite unfriendly for edible varieties.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: A non bitter larger Poncirus?
« on: October 27, 2024, 05:49:48 PM »
The oil is mostly around the seeds.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: My citrus collection [EU - Antwerp]
« on: October 27, 2024, 05:43:19 PM »
Probably  residues of rapeseed oil insecticide.
The fruit on the photo does not look like an IVIA ichangensis.



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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: A non bitter larger Poncirus?
« on: October 24, 2024, 08:17:34 AM »
Quote from: Jibro on October 24, 2024, 06:31:33 AM
" Ilya what is the quality of the fruit of your grafted Hodonin in your area?
It ripens a little bit later than PoncirusPlus, fruits a little bit smaller.







No bitterness, sour, but less than a lemon, practically no oils, nice fruity smell, 10°Brix

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: A non bitter larger Poncirus?
« on: October 23, 2024, 04:47:06 PM »
Quote from: BorisR on October 23, 2024, 04:08:51 PM
The color of the peel and flesh is not similar to poncirus. Maybe it's a citrange?
Agree, does not look like poncirus.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: No virus Citrus collection
« on: October 17, 2024, 11:44:38 AM »
I am an amateur hobbyst, but once  got the budwood from them, very polite contact, but it has been only once.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: A non bitter larger Poncirus?
« on: October 17, 2024, 07:45:30 AM »
Thank you, unfortunately my graft of  Sladka is very weak,  not flowered yet.
Among other varieties  that I got from you, Hodonin is the only one that is flowering and fruiting profusely.
I even manged to  produce its hybrids with Valentine.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: A non bitter larger Poncirus?
« on: October 17, 2024, 05:30:07 AM »
Jiri,
Sladka means sweet, but is it really sweet?  Have you tested it recently?
As I remember one of your reports there was not much of juice.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Different yuzu selections
« on: October 12, 2024, 08:01:35 AM »
These nurceries just copy/paste the hardi ess figures fr Alias table. In the past there was rather heated discussion how relevant they are for different climates. I guess that they are wind chill digits, not centigrade temperatures since -18C never happened at Martigues where alias lived, but such wind chill is quite common due to Mistral.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Different yuzu selections
« on: October 12, 2024, 04:24:58 AM »
These numbered selections of Yuzu come from the largest amateur collection in France The person has been posting on the French forum AgrumesPassion under the nick Alias
Below are his notes:
Citrus junos yuzu n°1 R-18°c maturité:OCT-NOV qualité: XXXXX
- Citrus junos yuzu n°2 R-18°c maturité:OCT-NOV qualité: XXXXX
- Citrus junos yuzu n°3 R-18°c maturité:OCT-NOV qualité: XXXXX
- Citrus junos yuzu n°4 R-18°c maturité:OCT-NOV qualité: XXXXX
- Citrus junos yuzu n°5 SB 13 sans épine R-15°c maturité:OCT-NOV qualité:
- Citrus junos yuzu de tintori R-12°c maturité: qualité: XXXX
- Citrus junos yuzu de corse R-12°c maturité: qualité: XXXXX
- Citrus junos yuzu des usa R-15°c maturité: qualité: XX


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Citrus General Discussion / Re: No virus Citrus collection
« on: October 11, 2024, 03:37:50 AM »
Not easy to get the budwood from it even in Europe.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Calamondin/calamansi as the mother
« on: September 26, 2024, 03:16:46 AM »
Genetically identical mother clones from polyembryonic seed are not necessary identical in appearance at this stage.
In such seeds embryons are densely packed and are very different in size.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: first crosses of limequat Eutis x poncirus (will they be resistant?)
« on: September 24, 2024, 04:10:04 AM »
Quote from: Lauta_hibrid on September 21, 2024, 06:21:29 PM


Looks like there is a second sprout coming from the same seed  ( red arrow) .
So I am not sure that is is a hybrid.





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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Nordmann Seedless triploid?
« on: September 23, 2024, 11:17:08 AM »
Diploid zygotic varieties can give triploid seedlings by pollination of occasional diploid ovule by haploid pollen.
The resulting seeds are smaller than normal.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: How to use seedless gene from Kishu
« on: September 20, 2024, 03:39:03 AM »
Lauta,
The factors and heritability   of seedlessness in satsumas and Mukaku kishu are quite different.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Is there a potential in a Prague citsuma orchard in temperate climate?
« on: September 11, 2024, 05:02:33 PM »
Millet,
Probably it was not a real Prague. Its fruit is indistinguishable from that of satsuma.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: US 1516
« on: September 04, 2024, 11:01:10 AM »
Dunstan origin is not clear, I read that it was initially  found in a abandoned conservatory on the Long Island, some people believe that it is pomeloXPT hybrid.

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Citrus General Discussion / Jackson grapefruit
« on: September 04, 2024, 04:00:54 AM »
Here in France at the end of summer we have this South African export.
It is supposed to be a  "seedless"  mutation of Triumph, itself either a bud sport or a grapefruitXorange hybride.



Still some seeds, very mild, orange like sweet taste (15 Brix), very juicy, no bitterness at all.

I wonder if somebody has a first hand experience in growing it?


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