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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tape Types for use grafting . . . .
« on: July 22, 2023, 05:36:40 PM »
I use Buddy Tape to seal the graft cuts and scion.
Then use regular budding tape over the top of only the graft cuts.
This enables the regular tape to be removed, leaving the Buddy Tape as a protective after the buds shoot.
I found that when grafting Persimmons, V graft, the Buddy Tape was not strong enough to hold the union, especially if bumped etc.
Regular budding tape comes in a few brands and also widths. Wider tape seems better for larger grafts or buds.
For Chip buds I do a similar thing, Buddy Tape over the Chip, then reg tape above and below the Bud Eye, leaving a gap for that to sprout.
Again regular tape can be removed early, leaving the buddy Tape. Also found that large woody Chip Buds could lift off the stock under Buddy Tape alone.
Have tried Laboratory Parafilm, thought Buddy Tape was much better. I believe there is also a  " grafting " Parafilm too in a smaller narrower roll.

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Yes it is an amazing place, basically you could stand in a spot that looked similar tens of millions of years ago. The highland rainforests like Mt Lewis are like being in another world.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cold Hardy Avocado Rootstock
« on: July 11, 2023, 04:49:40 PM »
Have you ever tried preparing cuttings while still attached to the tree.
Pre callusing, trimming off the leaves and wounding and taping up.
Allows the process to start before you remove the cutting.
There is also etiolation, excluding light from the stem to induce roots.
I once wrapped citrus branches with Aluminium foil to try to induce flowering. Instead got a few 1cm roots under the foil.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Songbirds nesting in Poncirus
« on: July 11, 2023, 04:35:17 PM »
It is interesting how birds readily make use of non native trees, like Poncirus in USA. Is there anything similar that they would otherwise use ?
Same here in Australia, my neighbour has a very large Ash tree that is the summer hangout for parrots because it is the coolest big shade tree around.
Otherwise they are in the Canary Date palms. I live in an arid area, yet nectar feeding Honey Eaters went crazy for Banana flowers, not part of their ecology.
Also some parrots readily eat non native fruit like Privet and Pistachio rootstock berries.https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Flookaside.fbsbx.com%2Flookaside%2Fcrawler%2Fmedia%2F%3Fmedia_id%3D10157292664303468&tbnid=8as1LrSHLWpcaM&vet=12ahUKEwik6dOtwIeAAxV7yKACHQYjDEMQMygBegUIARDLAQ..i&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fphildudmangardening%2Fphotos%2Fa.10150391991683468%2F10157292664303468%2F%3Ftype%3D3&docid=gpO-b408SwH7wM&w=1500&h=2000&q=blue%20faced%20honeyeater%20in%20banana&client=safari&ved=2ahUKEwik6dOtwIeAAxV7yKACHQYjDEMQMygBegUIARDLAQ

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Chuansa Mangoes are they polyembryonic ? Just wondering, some fruit is locally available.

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What are your marketing  opportunities ?
I am sure some people would seek them out, others may not know much about them, or tell them from other " mandarins".

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Chempadak and Marang seeds taste nicer than Jackfruit, sort of sea /crab flavour. Breadnut, the seeded breadfruit is also good. I think Pedali also has nice Marang type flavoured seed, but it has been a while.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Papaya Fruit Fly Question
« on: July 04, 2023, 02:59:30 AM »
According to this, the type you are talking about " specifically attacks Papaya fruit". There is no mention of it being a risk to other fruit.
https://www.planthealthaustralia.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Papaya-fly-FS.pdf

Australia also had an outbreak of a Papaya Fruit Fly, but a different species from S E Asia. That one was able to infest more types of fruit.
https://www.planthealthaustralia.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/Oriental-fruit-fly-complex-FS-Papaya.pdf

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Large deep pots for growing garcinis
« on: July 03, 2023, 09:07:42 PM »
I grew native Garcinias in these extra tall Avocado bags. Might need to support the bags until established with a styro lug box.
https://botanyplastics.com.au/product/planter-bags-150mm-dia-x-380mm-high-black-poly-avo-long-pk500/

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Here is a comparison photo of the fruit.
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=1827547437646262&set=a.131387313928958
I found out further info that the fruit of Samuyao and Biasong are not identical to hystrix fruit.
Makes sense otherwise they wouldn't be seperate varieties.
The Phillipines name for hystrix seems to be balincolong.
Cabuyao seems too be used for Citrus macroptera.
Not 100% sure on this, as seems to be fairly rare even in the Phillipines.

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Oh wow, bots with ChatGPT will be a nightmare.

Yes, and with online home delivery services, they could even order samples of fruit for DNA or flavour profile chemical analysis.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Azolla as Fertilizer
« on: June 28, 2023, 08:07:48 AM »
Not so sure about using duckweed for food, but it makes a nice compost.

Sounds like you are using it for food, just a few steps removed.

Better than what "Soylent Green" turned out to be.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Azolla as Fertilizer
« on: June 27, 2023, 06:36:50 PM »
Duckweed is being researched as a food source for Space stations and Space colonisation.

https://youtu.be/Nr4y5a5bUSc
https://phys.org/news/2019-08-duckweed-world.html
Don't think this is Azolla, but still relevant.
Azolla is also being researched as a food source ( back on Earth ).

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There used to be a lot of Avocado trees up on the Tablelands,  (Atherton, Yungaburra ) etc. Most of these types had very watery fleshed fruit. Not my favourite type.
Possibly most were seedlings overhanging fences in peoples yards
Might be worth going for a drive in the months you need to fill the gap and find fruiting trees. Roadside fruit stalls, small fruit shops etc, even trees on the roadside.
I have heard a lot of these trees have been removed, but there might still be some.
Some of the Avocado farms have interesting types.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Florida finger lime hybrids
« on: June 26, 2023, 05:24:29 PM »
The fruit will have seeds, once the fruit are available. As these are not wild selected finger limes, but crosses of different red finger lime types to produce " superior types ",
the seed offspring could be variable, at least to the extent of resembling the parent types in various combinations.

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Does Diamond River longan exist in Australia?  It doesnít need any cold period and the same Chinese who come to load up on durian love it. I think it was brought here by Gary Zill. His nursery grafts it but we make airlayers that come into production in 2-3 years and produce twice a year for us. Should be good for northern Australian farms.
Peter

Doesn't seem to come up on Fruit Nursery searches in Australia

It also got discussed on this Forum
https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=21617.0

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There is also a similar sounding type native FNQ type of longan.
"Dimocarpus australianus also known as Australian native "lychee" is a species of trees, closely related to the longan, constituting part of the plant family Sapindaceae.
They are endemic to Cape York Peninsula, Australia. The edible fruit tastes like lychee, sweeter than longan, and occasionally gets described as 'too sweet' in comparison by longan fanciers."

I have found the trees South of Cooktown, fruit are marble sized longans, in clusters, quite nice.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: On extremely compact seedlings.
« on: June 21, 2023, 09:26:25 PM »
It is a bit similar to Chinotto sour orange seedlings, but even more compact.

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I am not into grafting yet so personally I am looking at something that does it from a seed.

You are best to keep an eye out for fruiting trees around Cairns and the wider area.
If you can recognise the main types, you can recognise any odd type, likely to be seedlings.
Rough Lemons and West Indian Limes are commonly found in the Rainforest.
Citrus inodora is found locally in Cape Trib, Daintree town, Mossman gorge.
I have not been to FNQ for many years, but there were quite a few unusual Citrus around back then, many seedlings.
The PNG types are probably unknown here, but only a boat ride away ?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: how true-to-seed is true-to-seed?
« on: June 18, 2023, 03:45:52 PM »
If you get a zygote that's a clone, it will be mostly the same apart from mutations that arose in the germ cells in the parent. When you're copying a whole genome, there will always be mistakes. I can't speak for how similar they are to the parent typically, but there can be variation in several nucellar embryos from the same parent. IE, the clones will all differ slightly.

I am finding quit a few regrown fruiting Citrus rootstock plants around here, mainly Citrange, Swingle and Rough Lemon.
I think I can fairly assume that the rootstock seed all came from the one approved source in Australia.
Out of these types, I am not seeing 100 % identical fruit on the trees of any one variety.
These three are highly clonal types, suitable for uniform rootstocks.
It is unlikely that only off types are the lucky ones to survive and fruit.
( on the other hand there may be compatibility issues with off types causing graft failure, but that seems a long shot ).
I am not seeing any major differences in foliage on these trees. You can clearly tell that they are Swingle, or Carrizo Citrange or Rough Lemon.

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https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=643006094529940&set=pcb.643006631196553
PUNGAPONG SPOTTED IN MASUNGI Phillipines Amorphophallus 'corpse flower'

Not a fruit, but the images are spectacular.

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Citrus General Discussion / Okinawa
« on: June 16, 2023, 03:42:54 PM »
Just wanted to alert that Kamado has posted about an upcoming trip to Okinawa in Buy Sell Trade.
Not sure if any members would be interested in some of the wild Citrus species previously discussed.
Obviously only members in areas not subject to Citrus import bans.


June 08, 2023, 12:05:18 PM ĽOn a different note, I will be in Okinawa next month.
I can get a variety of fruits, so message me if there is anything you want!

Have a great weekend!
https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=51392.0

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Electroculture
« on: June 16, 2023, 03:35:19 PM »
Not sure how this may link in.

"The soil in your garden is paramagnetic. It isn't magnetic, but mildly attracted by a magnet and partially aligns with the earth's magnetic field, making it paramagnetic. Some soils are attracted more than others, and the more paramagnetic your soil is the better."

Volcanic rock crusher dusts have been investigated to increase this property in Agriculture.

I am not sure I would follow conventional science when it dismisses concepts too quickly.
If we look back at Science over the last 200 years, it has evolved greatly, and at any point in time many prevailing concepts have been proved incorrect later on.
Some seem ridiculous now, yet they were mainstream science back then.

My neighbour has a grape farm.
Each row of grapes has a railway line post at each end in the ground ( earthed ?? ) and 3 strands of steel wire, 150 m long between, held up by wooden posts ( insulated ? )
He has 10 acres of this set up, and other neighbours have 5 or 6 strands of wire running between similar set ups. Some have metal star picket stakes instead of wooden posts.
Apart from the grape vines, it kind of sounds like a giant antennae or crystal set. A set of old style telegraph lines ?
Is it possible that this structure is exerting some kind of weak electrical field on the plants ?
I'm not sure either, but the neighbour is certainly under some unusual influence.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Electroculture
« on: June 16, 2023, 04:57:11 AM »
what in tarnation

Well if it proves to be right, and your flowers grow better,
You might be saying,
What in Carnation ??

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