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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Giant Finger Lime QQs . . .
« on: July 26, 2020, 06:18:58 PM »
The Giant Finger Lime is also discussed here
It looks like the skin will turn yellow when ripe, and they will probably fall off the plant
How many fruit do you have ? You could probably try one when they seem full size, and start to break colour, ie get a tinge of yellow.
Whatever this is, it doesn't look like a giant finger lime, it looks like a mix of something else.
Maybe someone could check the Florida Department of Agriculture’s budwood facility and see what Microcitrus they hold, ie do they also have virgata and Faustrime.

A bud sport could maybe be a graft hybrid, if the sport limb came from the bud/stock union.
Microcitrus have been at the USA facilities for many many years, with little interest until recently.
That's a long time for things to get mixed up, mislabelled or even seedlings to grow back in place of dead trees.
Some of the Microcitrus at the Citrus Variety Collection, don't exactly match what was found in the wild in PNG recently,
ie the accessions are hybrid seedlings or sports.
It is possible that this Giant Finger Lime is something else.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Giant Finger Lime QQs . . .
« on: July 26, 2020, 09:41:03 AM »
Is it the same as the type in this previous post
If you look at the Brite leaf page, it looks like a hybrid,
possibly similar to Citrus virgata which is fingerlime cross roundlime ???
Not sure if that's exactly like Faustrime, looks similar, maybe a seedling variant.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: First effective treatment for HLB
« on: July 08, 2020, 07:39:52 PM »
That's some of the best news I've heard in a while for a few reasons.
Finding a control from nature, that also seems to be  low impact low residue etc , is a lot better than some of the potential harder controls that might have been  needed.
It also brings home the need to conserve Citrus relatives in the wild ( and other wild crop relatives ) as a source of these type of controls and genes for breeding work.
Sadly last summer there were massive unprecedented fires in some of the rainforest areas where Fingerlimes grow.
The Mt Nardi fire and Terania Creek fires in Nth NSW got into wet subtropical rainforest due to the long drought in Australia.
Fires are not unusual in Nth NSW, but rainforest creeks and larger rainforest areas were considered the main firebreaks, as it was pretty hard to get them to burn.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Judy’s everbearing finger lime
« on: July 04, 2020, 08:09:15 PM »
I have never tried this variety. If it has good crops and also holds out of season fruit most of the year, thats great.
You probably would be better with a few fingerlimes at any time to use, than a heap at once.
My favorite types are the light green skin and green pulp and red types with red pulp.
Vars with khaki skin can have unusual flavors, something like lime plus moro blood orange, maybe a hint of Pummelo.
The skin can be stronger flavoured than the pulp.
If you have tried blood lime hybrid they can be similar to those flavors. Some typeswould be much better than Blood Lime.
Also some red or red green or khaki types may colour and taste different in different climates.
Some of these types originally come from Byron Bay/ Alstonville in NSW which is very mild subtropical.
I think Judy has been working with fingerlimes for a long time, and with many selections, so I would guess Judy's Everbearing is at least above average.
Again I havn't tried this var. There are plenty of selected types to try to track down and grow, some may have cleaner pulp and skin flavor profiles ???

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Seedlings
« on: July 02, 2020, 11:21:30 PM »
According to UCR, giant key lime is  a "spontaneous autotetraploid selected from seedling population of diploid Key lime".
So the giant size comes from the extra genetic material. Hopefully it breeds true from seed and progeny maintain the tetraploid condition.

Just wondering if anyone has ever seen fruit of either Biasong aka small flowered papeda and / or Samuyao aka small fruited papeda?
How do the fruit of either compare with Citrus hystrix/Makrut ? Are they fairly close or quite different? .

Green Finger Limes are fairly similar to west indian lime, perhaps a little sweeter. Other colours are very different, ranging thru yellow types, lemon to grapefruit flavor, to berry flavors in the red types. They grow naturally in the subtropical rainforest, from the warmer coast to high up into the mountains, which is much colder.
I have found them to be true to their colour from seed, ie from wild fruit, but in a greenhouse they cross easily.
This would apply to plantations with many varieties of finger lime..
They will also cross with other Citrus flowering at the same time.
About 5 years from seed to fruiting, probably faster if you can grow it faster to height.

The winter day temp here is 12 to 14 'c on the coldest days.  average is 17 'c .
The usual overnight minimum is 0'c  but can get to -5 which causes severe frost damage.
Anything like 5'c to 10'c overnight is no problem, but they wont grow much.
Keeping them warmer would be better. (Yes could overwinter in room temp. around 20C).

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Seedlings
« on: June 04, 2020, 12:02:37 AM »
Giant Key Lime looks interesting, how does the fruit compare taste wise to Key Lime. Is it identical ?.
I was wondering if this var could be propagated from seed, so please update and thanks for the effort.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Nitraria Schoberi
« on: May 13, 2020, 03:36:12 AM »
It looks pretty similar to the Nitre bush or Dillon bush in Australia. The fruit on different bushes are quite different, ie some more salty, more sweet, more astringent.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Kaffir lime disease? Leaf symptoms
« on: March 14, 2020, 07:56:58 AM »
How often do you water etc ? The pot mix looks fairly dry on top and some leaves look dry. If you lift up the pot is it heavy or light ?
You certainly dont want to overwater, but also check that the water is not just running thru the mix.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: collette finger lime
« on: February 08, 2020, 06:31:18 AM »
It looks like a hybrid to me, any chance its finger lime x Citrus inodora ? Any twin spines on it ?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Yuzu Fingerlime cross
« on: March 13, 2019, 07:36:44 AM »
Re: Yuzu Fingerlime cross, the lower leaves of your seedling do look a lot like a microcitrus X citrus hybrid.
Some hybrids of citrus X microcitrus have quite large leaves. Look at these pics of citrus X microcitrus hybrids, you will see very similar foliage.

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