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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Thinning Mahachanok mango
« on: May 10, 2022, 04:58:05 PM »
I have a few Maha with fruit almost to the ground. They flowered well and set well. I keep noticing far more fruit set to the east side of mangos this is what I have generally seen over the years. My hypothesis is that early morning easterly sun burns off moisture leading to decreased fungal problems on the panicles.

Those of you who mention high producing branches I ask if these are mainly on thE east side of the tree?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My fruiting Achachairu - Video
« on: May 10, 2022, 07:49:53 AM »
I'm glad to see it is true these get so wide as I was told. I planted 20 trees two years ago at 25 ft spacing. They seem so far apart but I did fit a soursop between each of them.
Here is another example of similar size in Florida, Fort Myers area, see video at 2:30 minutes.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jean Ellen mango any fans
« on: May 10, 2022, 07:31:30 AM »
This hasn't happened every year but I do have one tree of Jean Ellen that came with the property. I had it bear so heavily I've never seen so many mangos on one tree before. It is a fairly compact growing tree. Taste isn't anything special but when a small tree holds ~400 pounds of mangos it is a $1200 gift.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Beware of these fertilizers
« on: May 08, 2022, 09:07:52 AM »
I was surprised recently when I bought "topsoil" from home depot/lowes that it smelled like old cigarettes and looked like ash.  I was expecting it to be cheap clay, but somehow this was worse.  I then checked the ingredients list of all the bagged soils and they are literally all peat moss plus recycled trash of one type or another.  Rice hulls, "recycled forestry products", "composted food waste".  At least manure is good old animal crap (I hope)

Anyway, I had to resort to digging holes in random corners of my yard to get acceptable dirt to backfill holes.

I know this post is about fertilizers, but it felt like a good time to let out this gripe.
Beware of manure nowadays. If it is coming from animals fed purchased hay there is a chance of herbicide contamination.
The specific herbicide is used on pastures and is highly persistent. It is specific to dicot broadleaved weeds but doesn't kill grasses. However, the herbicide is absorbed by the grass and persists in hay, even in manure, or compost including the manure. I belong to a Facebook garden group and several times this year even just a few weeks ago a person used "Free Manure" from his brother-in-law and his plants quickly showed the signs of poisoning. Horse manure is probably the worst but any animal fed hay can be assumed to get it. It may be possible to do a basic "test" using beans and grass seed to see what happens. Here is a Link from University of Florida:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jack Bean for Nematodes
« on: May 07, 2022, 06:15:26 PM »
Great news I harvested about 50 pounds of shelled out Jack Beans this year.

I'm planning to graft a seedling Indian jujube with the thornless "Thai Giant" variety.
Can anyone offer a tip or tricks?
What season is best?
What to look for in the scion?
What type of graft to make?

Note, this is not about the Chinese Jujube (Ziziphus jujuba)
this is Indian Jujube (Z. mauritiana)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Irrigation pump question
« on: April 30, 2022, 06:18:58 PM »
As you have described the system, water will run through the pump by gravity unless there is a valve closed in the line, there is clearance between the impeller and casing and the impeller itself can flow through the center and out the edge. You could close a valve wherever you want, on the suction or discharge size of the pump, and even much farther downhill. You will have to turn on the pump anyway, so will have to open the valve then start the pump. You could automate the valve and use a remote switch for pump. Normally, there should be a valve at the tank discharge which would allow pump and line maintenance without draining the whole tank. However, that valve could be left open in normal operation.
What you don't want to do is run any pump dry it can burn up the pump seal then other parts later on.
If there is any automation you plan to install be sure there is a low water shutoff at minimum because at some point the tank will run dry.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango being stolen
« on: April 28, 2022, 11:14:06 PM »
In this case it has probably happened more than once then they put the camera on. The frustration and being victimized over and over gets worse every time. Whoever comes for my mangos gets it for all the ones that got away with it before. Same for any thief. First one got a bean pole in the head and high jumped a barbed wire fence, second time I had the machete. I've mellowed a lot over the years but anybody caught better hope they can get away quick or it aint gonna be pretty.  :-\

Hey a friend sent me this picture saying that all of his mango trees had the same appearance. At first I assumed he was watering with some salty or highly chlorinated water. After some mopre questions it turned out he had used borax on the trees after a soil test showed low boron. Turns out the symptoms seen match boron toxicity perfectly. So, beware using borax on mango and be aware of the toxicity symptoms shown.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Horticultural Molasses
« on: April 25, 2022, 10:28:53 PM »
I expect it would be good in a compost pile!

Soursop are pretty tough. I've separated more than 20 from a 1 gallon pot.
How large were the seedlings when you separated them?
About 4 inches. By the time they were out most were bare rooted. They didn't wilt down. I replanted immediately.

Soursop are pretty tough. I've separated more than 20 from a 1 gallon pot.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passion fruit hand pollination
« on: April 22, 2022, 09:16:24 PM »
I'm growing a mulberry mound with FL everbearing, Thai dwarf, and red Him just added. Have yet to try RH, but have heard it is much better than the other 2. RH should be a very good choice. So far it is growing well and showing no problems with limestone soil and local climate. It gets lots of watering.
Suggest any of the Thai Everbearing types. Much superior to Fl/Dwarf Everbearing as far as fruit size, about 4x as large.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Passion fruit hand pollination
« on: April 22, 2022, 08:43:27 AM »
Sweet sunrise required cross-pollinated by another seedling, species, or cultivar
Not very kind of PIN to sell without disclosure. They actually shoot themselves in the foot because if they offered a pollinator probably could have sold twice as many plants!

Be aware the slim hedges use plant growth regulators (PGR's) which are hormones to artificially dwarf the trees. Paclobutrazol is typical, but not registered for use in the USA. You can get it for ornamental foliage plants. I believe they also use nitrate or something else to stimulate flowering. Personally, I doubt they will last more than 10 years before the production declines due to excessive pruning and trees becoming too dense. Once they get too unproductive you can remove every other tree and move on.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: could this be guavaberry?
« on: April 12, 2022, 06:22:34 PM »
I wish I could help. I spent the 1980's in St Croix Virgin Islands where Guavaberry was highly prized. So much so that the people who knew where it grew wild wouldn't even show me, an outsider from "stateside", where it grew. There must be substantial amounts because every year people would have the liquor to share around and it was very good. I did some searching and did find that it is also known from Saint Maarten in the Dutch antilles here is a view and some recipes for how it is used.

The round growth was probablly where it was air layered.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango plant
« on: April 11, 2022, 10:00:57 PM »
2-3 months means the energy in the seed is running out. It has made it through the winter and needs warmth and sun, fertility, and maybe repotting with very good drainage.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Filling the March/April fruit gap
« on: April 09, 2022, 09:17:46 AM »
What Mulberries do well in South-Central Florida (particularly very near the Gulf)?
I looked into growing them awhile ago, but it seemed like the ones that sounded the best needed a cooler climate than we have (Sebring being about the same latitude as me but with bigger temp swings).
"World's Best" is the variety, but any of the Thai Everbearing types are good. Get the large fruited types, some "Everbearing" just make tiny fruit.

Looks like you may expect bloom in winter and ripening in summer.

This is showing one at Fruit and Spice park blooming in summer, maybe check with them.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red coloured mango with early season
« on: April 05, 2022, 07:16:58 PM »
Translating USA seasons with the monsoon climate in India might be difficult. What part of India, there are several climate zones to deal with? You might consider looking at locally adapted varieties. Out of the more common ones, which ones fit
 closest to your criteria?

I put in 10 identical Mahachanok trees all in a row, treatment and sun exposure was identical. Every one took 4 years to first flower but made a good crop and they continued this year. All were straight from Zills. Carrie with same treatment next row over fruited year 2.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avacado Tree Leggy
« on: March 30, 2022, 10:39:03 PM »
Study avocado pruning. they come back quickly and you can get it the way you want. Here is a pic of how they cut back large avocado in California. The canopy rebuilds and you can shape them. You maybe can do a section at a time.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sharing Pic For Pineapple Fanatics…
« on: March 22, 2022, 08:22:22 AM »

This was from a Dole Gold crown.

It can be very simple. The inspector came and saw my small shade house, looked at a few plants and mentioned some pests he saw on them, aphids, etc. and left after 10 minutes. Really no big deal. They like to see plants up and off the ground against nematodes. Don't have anything on the prohibited list. It could be a good gig for a younger person and there is money in it if you can develop skills. I suggest grafting if you like that and finding something you could specialize in that others aren't doing. A niche strategy where a need isn't being fulfilled. Philodendrums are fantastically expensive right now but if you get things right they should be lucrative, mostly they need heat and humidity. Good luck, starting a business at a young age is really a great thing if I were a parent I'd be all for it.

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