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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: March 27, 2023, 02:41:29 AM »
Here's how the tree from the video in December turned out.  Even with our long winter they are growing ok.  Not ideal but it seems like they will make it.  Gray Martin says my early grafting is frowned upon.  But it seems to work ok.  Now way I could have done so many bark grafts otherwise.  It would still not slip yet with all the cold.  I top worked 15 or 20 trees and they all seem to be growing out in this weather.

My 10 scions I got from Brad in January, started to breaking the buddy tapes 3 weeks ago; so yes, seems this super wet Winter season may caused the avocado grafts to linger longer than I experienced in the past. I was   little worry of why this was taking so long, and doubting myself of what I did wrong in grafting them. They mostly look good now, thanks again for the extras you sent me Brad!  ;)

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Avocado scions
« on: December 23, 2022, 01:37:53 PM »
Glad to see you started offering Avocado scions already!
PM sent, January or February shipping is fine for me.
Thanks Brad!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango: germinate seed in 90F oven
« on: October 22, 2022, 11:21:18 PM »
Thanks Victoria Ave and Sapote, for confirming what I thought I would do with my baby mango seedlings.

Sapote, being just 3 ft on the East side of the house, your seedling trees would only get about half day sun growing up, right? If that is so, I might pull a couple of Hibiscus bushes and replace them with mango seedlings then…

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango: germinate seed in 90F oven
« on: October 21, 2022, 11:28:58 AM »
Thanks for sharing your creative idea, Sapote!

I also have newly germinated mango seeds in conventional pots currently,
would you recommend to plant these in the ground now (late October)
or later in Spring be better for our SoCal climate?

Good advice Johnny, thanks again!

I forgot to mention this in my last post but one thing I have discovered is you have greater success grafting onto a strong thick vigorous branch vs weak lower limbs on an existing mango rootstock or seedling tree.

Conclusion:  Remove weak grown (especially on younger mango trees) and focus the energy of the tree on 2-3 of the strongest branches. Just my experience for long term success and strong branching.


I agree, I also notice that whenever I grafted some scions (not necessarily mango) on a weak/small branch on a mature tree, it develops slow or very slow, many eventually died years later. I will keep this in mind on my future grafts work.
I appreciate you taking the time and sharing your valuable experience!

In the mean time, I went ahead and cut my main thick trunk manila down to about 15”, I read that it’s easier to graft on new green  shoots than to do bark grafting on mango. (On the other hand, on stone fruit trees, I had 6 out of 6 successes  bark grafting them). 
So, I am looking forward to do some multi grafting on the new shoots, this coming Summer I hope…

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« on: October 15, 2022, 05:17:03 PM »
 Wow, successful result from seedling! Thanks for sharing the news.
 I would rather have the problem of the good fruits sagging the tree
rather than having a shapely erect tree with hardly any fruits, Brad… :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Restoring a 30+ year old avocado orchard
« on: October 11, 2022, 11:33:58 AM »
I supposed getting water from a well is not practical?
Looks so large, good luck managing the grove.   

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Post-Hurricane Blues
« on: October 11, 2022, 11:18:34 AM »

Using the ratchets for the straps, I am able to get the trees reasonably straight and then every few days continue tightening the straps to gradually finish getting them upright.

Just a thought and all the best to you and others in recovering from the hurricane.

Yes, I've been using ratcheting straps also to straighten up trees (not caused by hurricane) in the manner you described, works very well.


Overall I am satisfied with this multi-grafted mango tree and expect production to pick up as it matures. Currently, I am growing about 25 different varieties of mango at my location and the only way I can try them all is to do multi-grafting on my in-ground trees.

Nice going Johnny!  Love seeing your pretty and healthy multi grafted tree! Yes, it’s  city dwellers problem with limited yard space.   ;)

I am planning to do a top work on one of my tree, it’s manila root stock tree; It’s got multiple varieties on it, but I am not please with them, baring one (Sweet Tart). I understand that the best time to do this on mango is around June-October in SoCal? Which grafting method would you guys/gals recommend, grafting on the water shoots or bark grafting method is better?
I supposed if I elect to do water shoots grafting, I better cut the tree about knee high or so now…no? Someone would like to give some opinion please? Thanks!

It’s good to see those beautiful/healthy mango trees and fruits that were
grown here in SoCal, give me some hope to expect better result to just a few of mine.
Thanks for sharing those photos, Brad!

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus leaves looking weird. What is it?
« on: October 03, 2022, 01:41:59 AM »
Picture 3 looks a lot like citrus leaf miner.

Yes, after zooming in no. 3 picture twice, I can see the "tunnel" on the leaf
that Leaf miners typically do. Lots of discussion on this on this forum...good luck!

Neither, Sinaloa is free of Med Fruit fly I believe it's granted a special exception to the treatment rules.

Good to know that Oolie, thanks for sharing!

Took home this big Keitt mango at Seafood City Irvine last night.
The box's label shows this comes from Sinaloa, Mexico. So, they got hot water
treatment or where they "radiated"?
Hope the seeds are still viable, that I will have 4 seedlings coming...
Just an fyi.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can a Cherimoya survive if I Dig It out?
« on: October 01, 2022, 02:00:27 AM »
If you have to dig it out, I would trim the cherimoya very hard, maybe down to at least 1/3 it's size today. Also, doing it on the growing season (Spring) might give it a better chance to survive.  I found cherimoyas survive nicely with little watering in SoCal.

As far as letting the fruits to mature on your presumably young mango, herm..., that's what I did few years ago; then it just stayed there for the next 3-4 years. I've been reading Simon's "How to grow mangos in SoCal" on this site, I wish I read that before I let my young mangos bear the few fruits.
Happy growing, palingkecil!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hurricane Ian Prep
« on: September 28, 2022, 08:42:33 PM »
Had many Earthquakes experience, never a Hurricane. Looking scary just from pictures and videos. Feeling concern to all you Floridians, may you stay save, and your plants too!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Front yard tree - east of large oak
« on: September 25, 2022, 05:30:51 PM »
You might want to consider planting Sapodilla tree. The fruits don't seem to attract any birds or squirrels or rats.  Also, the fruits don't look attractive when mature and I don't think most people recognize them either.

Besides, the tree is good looking, easy to grow, evergreen, not disease prone and partial sun ok. (my personal experience from growing it since 2015 in my yard).
Others may suggest differently, I am pretty sure. Good luck with your search...

Thank you guys for your opinion/response…give me some ideas to experiments.

It blooms every year,  but somehow the flowers seemed to keep dropping prior to forming the fruitlets, or, most of the fruitlets dropped after they were formed…leaving just a handful mature fruits (literally) for me to taste…

This looks like the healthiest and fastest growing fruit tree in my yard, and yet it’s been a big disappointing performer for me…

Yeah, I've been steadily maintaining the watering and fertilizing routine throughout the years. So, I will reduced the Nitrogen and watering this coming fall based on your suggestion above. I am grateful for your useful advice and taking the time to reply, really appreciate it Galatians522!

Trying to add the photo of the tree:

I have Mauritius lychee that has been in the ground for 7 years bought from local nursery in 15G, that has grown to reaching the house roof line and beyond. It produced “decent” crop in 2019, but none in 2020 and only a few dozen fruits for 2021 and even less this year!
The tree seems to be a healthy looking and still growing, but the last 3 years it has not been producing enough fruits to speak about.

So, I am puzzled with it, perhaps someone(s) would offer some suggestion of what should I look for that may help increase this tree’s fruit production?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Squirrel battle
« on: September 16, 2022, 12:32:01 AM »
Yes, it's an old thread, but the squirrels battle is continuing...isn't it?
Here's one method I am redeploying, using my old "KARO rodent trap" last week, seeing that my cherimoya
fruits are getting bigger. I am debating if I should show the photo of the trap and the dead squirrel, it's a clean kill,
since the spring is very strong and kill bar hit right at the neck (it looks gruesome; maybe unsuitable for some?).

Haven't got another kill yet, and my fruits are still intact - so far! I guess there aren't too many squirrels around
my house lately-lucky!

For those having lots of squirrels in their yard, a better solution would probably be getting "Squirrelator", this will trap them
(many) alive, so you will have to dispose them somehow...good luck guys!
(By the way, those 2 traps were already discussed somewhere in this forum but I don't see it here on this thread).

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus Showing Tolerance To HLB
« on: January 28, 2020, 01:21:57 PM »


Monster (Formally variety N40-7-4)  A very large, some as large as a bowling ball.  Exceptionally sweet grapefruit type flavor.  Thin skin with large segments.  One large fruit can feed a small family.

Ok, I am sold, any possibility I can purchase the scion/budwood/tree of this Monster Pummelo?

My order received yesterday; greate packaging; thanks for the extras!

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