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Bad news... i,ll try my best anyway and try ro hand pollinate, but since now i have just this lone flower i cant do anything....i hope as the plants age and start getting more flowers, i will have something to work with. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / First cherimoya flowers, what to do..
« on: May 23, 2022, 01:28:44 PM »
Hi , the first of 3 flowers opened today as a female, the two other ones i think have a few days to go before they bloom, so i dont really think its worth it to collect the pollen from this one. I shut it tight with a rubber band, to keep it humid and prolly a better chance this way to self pollinate , i think ive red somewhere that keeping the flower shut helps with self pollination, dunno.. 

I just saw my other cherimoya plant ,which has some branching on the new growth and a t a closer inspection i saw flower buds on the small branchlets. Almost all of them have tiny round flower buds, is this a weard behaviour?

Heres a double leaf from the second plant

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Akebia quinata flower morphology
« on: May 19, 2022, 01:34:44 AM »
I checked mine yesterday and the male flowers have all dropped, the female ones anly dropped their petals, with the ovules still partially intact/ some of the individual ones may have shed. 
I red some on the subject of pollination, several places stayted that akebia is pollinated sometimes by flies and bees, but maynly by wind. The wind pollination may explain why we cant find the pollen, it may be just too small for the eye to dettect...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chicken egg sized mango
« on: May 18, 2022, 01:54:38 AM »
Not maprang I been eating those since end April off my trees,wrong shape.Could be Florigon mango.
Florigon, by the pics on the web looks to be bigger in size and rounder to me, not a mango expert but that is what i got comparing the pics....

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fertilizer question
« on: May 18, 2022, 01:48:13 AM »

This is what 8-3-9 does when you spread it a couple of times a year.
This is the third time I had to heavily prune the guava. It's already about to hit the ceiling.
I awlays pinch ne terminals of the new shoots after they make 3-4-5 sets of leaves, this sure keeps them compact and bushy but i wonder if i'm not hindering the blooming that way.....

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chicken egg sized mango
« on: May 17, 2022, 07:06:30 AM »
I also thought of maprang when i first saw it in the store, but they were selling it as a mango,  could it be a maprang advertised as a mango ??
The fruits size was around the same as a big chicken egg, or slightly bigger.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Chicken egg sized mango
« on: May 17, 2022, 05:20:57 AM »
What is this, anyone fammiliar with the species or the variety of this tiny mango fruit ??
The seeds appear to be poliembrionic i think....

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Weird wilting of lemon tree leaves
« on: May 17, 2022, 04:19:51 AM »

I have two lemons that i wintered in my basement without direct sun or strong light, i moved them outside in full sun and they took it like champs! Now every situation is different, but  u can check if the plant is not lacking water, lack of water can also severify the problem.
 Similar thing to your situ happened to several cherimoya seedlings of mine, couldnt handle the sun after i took them outside of the house, they were kinda dryish also ...

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Myer lemon citrus no leaves
« on: May 17, 2022, 02:59:52 AM »
The problem with the fruit drop is becouse of the leaf drop, no leaves means no food so no energy to sustain fruit. 
The problem is probably in the soil, it can be too much moisture since i think this pot a little too large for the plant. Check if the soil at the drainage holes is wet or overly moist. Ive experienced  citrus roots rot in a too wet of a soil. The other spectrum could be too dry, u can check for those two criteria. 
It could be starved for food, thought my citrus are generally also way underfed, but i havent had a leaf drop becouse of this.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Akebia quinata flower morphology
« on: May 17, 2022, 01:53:00 AM »
My vine just flowered a week or so ago, and one interesting observation i carried.....most of the flowers like 99% were small in size, but there were also two that were way bigger that the rest. The two big ones were like a steroid laden version of the rest ,and had somewhat of a star shaped ovule i quess at the center.
So are the big ones the female flowers?
The smaller i would assume were the male ones, and they had pollen carrying organs, but without any pollen that i could see...
Wanted to artifficially pollinate the bigger ,supposedly female flowers ,but there was no pollen....
Will they set without pollination ?

Well just checked in the web and yes, the bigger ones are the female flowers...also read that the plant needs cross pollination ,so i wont get fruit this year, hopefully my other plant will get big this year and flower next, so they can pollinate each other....

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fertilizer question
« on: May 17, 2022, 01:43:20 AM »
That will be a valuable info for me also !!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A watermellon question.....
« on: May 16, 2022, 11:01:13 AM »
They wilt and die if its not hot enough and and soil is too wet.

They need bigger pots than a cup.  Try 1 gallong pots.  And you may need to wait longer to start at your location.  Needs to be summer for thrm to get growing.
well they were in small cups and i transplanted them into pots, the soil is def not saturated or wet. Maybe it was the transplanting that did it, with one of the cups i kunda loosened the soil too much and this may be the one . . The others were fine. I dont think it was the cold that killed it' its not cold now here and i have previous years planted watermellons outside whille we were still having frosts 'in a nylon greenhouse of corse ' but still way colder compared to presents weather.

Didnt find the variety golden midjet as seeds, doubtfull ill find it as a starter plants also , nevermind i'll work with what i have   whille keeping my eyes open for seeds of it' for next season' it may be too late for starting seeds anyway this year...
I will keep the ones i have it pots for now and upgrade them as needed till i have some time to prepare the bed and collect the soil for it. This is my bysiest spring and year till now gardenwise, i hardly get any sleep....

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: toxicity cherimoya seeds?
« on: May 16, 2022, 02:49:18 AM »
maybe you can fish out the seed and plant it to see if digestion helps with germination
Ohh sh*t , thats over the border   ;D

A week ago i also swallowed one whole seed, fast forward to come was an hour of research if i had just poisoned myself,  at the end all was well....

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A watermellon question.....
« on: May 16, 2022, 02:27:09 AM »
Two days after i bought the plants, first casualty, the plant willted and leaves were dried up. I uppotted them into small pots with well drainable soil. One plants still left in the same pot. They are in my gr till i prepare the beds...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: identification please
« on: May 15, 2022, 02:22:13 AM »

i dont know what this is, but it doesnt look edible to me .....

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A watermellon question.....
« on: May 15, 2022, 12:40:46 AM »
I had a local watermelon grower tell me that crimson sweet is more disease resistant. If disease is a problem, maybe that would be a good one to try (especially since you mention that it is available there).

Ive grown crimson 3-4 years before, and i had the best success with watermellons exactly with this variety.  I think back then the summer was quite dry thought ,so this way have helped.
I want to grow them vertical this year so to not have the foliage on the ground , crimson makes big ones, dunno how i will suspend those in the air..i think i may do another small patch of watermellon and i may plant crimson there, wonder thought if it will have the time to ripen, since its a long season variety. Anyway, i'll see what other variety i can find in monday as a starter, and can also buy seeds , esp interested now in the suggested Golden Mitjet variety, looks kool and easy to id when ready...

I am thinking of making greenhouses for them from nylon, sure this will help in alot of ways...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Persimmon dormancy
« on: May 14, 2022, 04:50:23 PM »
What they listed online was misleading. Something like: 5g, 5-6ft tall, 2 year old...etc. Also, it shipped in a 5 gal pot. However, when I take it out to plant it, it's only a big root that was not bonded to the soil. I'd realized that it's not a plant, just a bareroot.

Ive heard about this and it usually is easily detected by a more experienced person. I one bought a edible chesnut that came in a pot and the soil was airy and loose, some of the roots were exposed and kinda going straight down like the main root. The plant though did fine, no problems with it, but its still a mislead to sell bareroots this way and present it as an established potted  plant for a higher $$ value....

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Persimmons Graft Question
« on: May 14, 2022, 04:41:12 PM »
I think this still has a chance, wait on it, eather way your roottock is so small now if it fails it will prolly sprout from the roots. Just put somethink to protect it , like chicken wire mesh or smt.
When i graft, yet not persimmons i awlays use a scion with two buds, u can probably do more on a healthy strong rootstock, but usually 2 buds on the scion is sufficient.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A watermellon question.....
« on: May 14, 2022, 04:32:42 PM »
I recommend Golden Midget watermelon.  The skin turns yellow when ready to pick
the variety looks very good ,i am doubtful  that i will be able to find it  to grow it this season,  i will look at the agro shop or any agro related place.
Most of whats here is crimson, sugar baby and other prolly ordinary ones that i am not familliar with...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A watermellon question.....
« on: May 13, 2022, 05:16:16 PM »
Thanks for all the comments!! I will amend with lots of sand. My freestile grow bags wont have a bottom so they will be able to root into the ground once they feel like it.
Well i think i bought sugar baby variety, the seller said they were small fruited, the pic was of a small watermellon but i forgot to check the tag for the variety , as awlays ......

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A watermellon question.....
« on: May 13, 2022, 08:38:24 AM »
Yes this will be kind of a cheap grow bag method/ without purchasing real grow bags.
I already bought the plants, the lable looked like sugar baby or other small fruit variety, the person said they were a smaller fruit watermellon.
For the soil i am thinking of amending the bed below the bags with some sand to aid drainage . As for the real potting mix i will probably go for a forest top soil mixed with sand and some bought potting mix.
And yes i am thinking of growing them vertically to help with deseases and stuff..... will have to come up with a trellis system for them thought.
About the grafting i wanted to do it since i saw a video of a Belarusian girl ,growing watermellons grafted  onto a pumpkin rootstock, but i may be too late for this experimment now.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Persimmons Graft Question
« on: May 13, 2022, 03:25:33 AM »
Hi group! I re-did a Persimmons graft maybe a few weeks ago and had the pot in shade on a table. The little green bud was swelling and I was watching it every day, most excitedly. Well, mysteriously the bud was picked off likely by my kids or their friend that came over. I'm pretty devastated. Unfortunately since I already re-did the graft there isn't enough rootstock left to re-graft this year and I will have to let a new sucker grow.

My question is, is there any possibility the node will push a new bud? There are no other nodes on this graft. I got a bit into reading about axillary buds and that some plants have more than one bud per node, and others are "spent" after pushing green growth. I guess I wanted to confirm this is a total fail at this point.

Ive experienced that persimmon has two side buds that accompany the main one, realized that after the main buds on my persimmons were damaged by frost past year.
If there are teeny tiny little green nubs at the site, it may sprout back. However in order for it to sprout u mush remove any growth on the rootstock, which it kinda dangerous ,since the graft may not sprout and u may be just weakening the rootstock.
A pic would help also  ....

Sorry for the quote, i should have just posted.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / A watermellon question.....
« on: May 13, 2022, 02:37:26 AM »
I want to try my hand again at watermellon, they are generally hard to grow here out of a greenhouse, problems like too much moisure and desease becouse of it are guaranteed. So i was thinking of making some planting pockets with regular white or black nylon bags, the ones that are maid of weaved strings. I have planted plants in the past in this and it has provided good drainage and also air. I will cut the bottoms of the bags and place them on open ground so they can root down readily, when they are ready to. The place i want to plant them is wetter then needed most of the rime ,so thats why i want to make them like raised beds from those cheap nylon bags.
I will also cover the whole bags with somethink when there is too much rain , so they do not get saturated.
The "pots " will not be moved ,so logistics is not an issue!
What soil are u using when growing watermellons, like not brands becouse i will have difficulty finding those, rather texture and general ingredients that u add etc ..?
What do u think , and thanks ?!

Well i think mine should be rady to flower ,they are quite big, in the greenhouse daily temps lately are around 30 c with open doors.

The pics i took at dusk so some blurriness to them...
I havent removed the winter coat of bubble wrap off the gh ,so this prevents some of the light and since the plants are growing from march they are somewhat etiolated...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: identification please
« on: May 13, 2022, 02:13:32 AM »
Any idea?
Could u take a fruit and cut it open ? This may help someone to id it.

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