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Plinia sp Diamantina rare dwarf Jaboticaba seedling on eBay. Also have Plinia sp Campo Ramon and Cone-Tainers seed starting tray system on there.Auctions end Sunday evening 5-22. Thanks and have a great day, David
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185428957774?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=zGee3RFfQ0-&sssrc=2524149&ssuid=zGee3RFfQ0-&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Rooting Grumichama
« on: May 08, 2022, 10:11:14 PM »
Do a search on Matthias Thomas post in the Acca, Eugenia to Myrtaceae group on Facebook. He has rooted many Eugenia species. If I was in your shoes and was able to acquire multiple cuttings I would try both methods rooting and grafting because finding rootstock of a common grumichama wouldnít be difficult or too pricey.

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I quit being interested in it as much after seeing the taste test. Sounds more like a novelty fruit like most of the Eugenia and some of the other myrciaria, not much pulp or taste, just a very expensive ornamental myrciaria. I think it would be more popular and more information on it in Brazil in the last 10 years it's been around if it were worth much.

https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=22155.0

You do realize it is still very rare still even in Brazil. The only taste test from Adam was just from one fruit and wasnít sure it was fully ripe. Even if itís not a top tier fruit it sure is very ornamental.

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Yes I do get it with the hybrids he has created, but he has this because someone else was kind enough to share it with him from Brazil instead of hoarding. Evidently with the recent light on how easy it is to root these different jaboticaba from tiny cuttings and leafs has them running scared.

 If anyone hasn't seen the videos or experimented themselves it has been very easy to root these, I've had success with all of them including strigipes and guaquiea.

https://youtu.be/HMz5fv10h4E

I havenít seen a leaf cutting grow to a plant. How long would it take for a nursery to get one to a sellable size? Good to hear the Myrciarias you have were able to root from cuttings. What kind of success rate are you getting?

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Getting closeÖ. I just took a look-see at ďDemeterĒ this morning. She is looking rather lushes at the moment.

Thatís awesome to hear. Have you tried grafting or rooting a cutting to have another plant to have as a backup?

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Itís all about supply and demand folks. Talking about it on here sure isnít going to bring the demand down. I highly doubt people are just hoarding rare fruit plants for themselves. In this case it looks like Myrciaria glomerata is a more sensitive plant than some of the others in the genus if I only have a couple plants I wouldnít risk cutting it if I thought it may stress it and make it slower to fruit. Also these produce fruits near the growing tips unlike Plinia. There is a guy in Portugal that is fruiting it now too so in a few years the supply will go up.

Itís actually one of the easiest to grow due to its cold tolerance. I have already started testing what it can take. No foliage damage until under 30įF. No serious foliage damage until under 23įF. It can take the largest amount of fertilizer out of all of the myrciarias and jabos I own. As for cuttings, it is like Hydra on crack.


Are yourís fruiting yet?

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Itís all about supply and demand folks. Talking about it on here sure isnít going to bring the demand down. I highly doubt people are just hoarding rare fruit plants for themselves. In this case it looks like Myrciaria glomerata is a more sensitive plant than some of the others in the genus if I only have a couple plants I wouldnít risk cutting it if I thought it may stress it and make it slower to fruit. Also these produce fruits near the growing tips unlike Plinia. There is a guy in Portugal that is fruiting it now too so in a few years the supply will go up. 

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Auctions ending today, have a great day.

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Auctions end this evening after some good basketball games.

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Hi Domnik,

Ebay auctions donít work that way. The end price is whatever a person is willing to pay for it. Sometimes they go high for something very rare that no one else has on the market or sometimes lower than a market price.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona salzmannii var "Giant"
« on: February 17, 2022, 08:23:20 AM »
It is always very hard to believe that none of these fruits are in cultivation by locals in their endemic zone.
I understand the rate of deforestation and in some cases a very small native zone to search for a fruit locals only remember from childhood. There are some great works being done to spread these species far and wide in the hopes to further increase distribution and understanding.

I donít think itís possible to out local the locals anywhere in the world. When you know the forests or streets for your life , you know it much better than anyone visiting.
How can visitors be the one to find and ďbring into cultivation for the first timeĒ a food source that has been in the neighborhood for hundreds and thousands of years? I donít know how thatís possible.
I think itís maybe being brought to english speaking collectors for the first time.
Something portugese speaking locals may care little about .
One thing is very clear is Brazil does not make it easy for these genetics to leave the country.

I can tell by Facebook pages like Belas Frutas and others that cultivating native fruit is getting very popular in Brazil. There is just so many species. Most of them donít want to deal with the hassle of shipping internationally or they want to spread the very rare species in cultivation in Brazil first.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona salzmannii var "Giant"
« on: February 16, 2022, 02:57:35 PM »
8 seeds from The Seeds Hunter with shipping in USA $167.50 with the current conversion rate this includes his guarantee if the seeds get lost he sends another package.

8 seeds directly from Brazil 8x$5= $40 plus $60 phytosanitary plus $40 shipping plus 7% PayPal fee = $149.80 with little guarantee if it gets lost. Andre may replace the seeds but you will have to pay for phyto and shipping. This is much more risky in my opinion. Sure you can buy more seeds direct from Brazil to offset the cost of phyto and shipping but that goes into prices that most would consider to be unaffordable on here.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Seeds Annona Salzmanii gigante
« on: February 16, 2022, 10:58:35 AM »
Giant gecko the other seller is not shipping from usa

so he is selling 4 of these seeds for $40?

If there is a seller shipping within the USA with the same guarantee for a cheaper price then someone could criticize Seeds Hunter price.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Seeds Annona Salzmanii gigante
« on: February 16, 2022, 10:51:16 AM »
Giant gecko the other seller is not shipping from usa

He said this in his post.

US orders will be shipped within the US
Shipping costs for US Orders 8 Euros 💶

International Orders will be shipped with EMS
Shipping costs 17 Euros 💶

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Seeds Annona Salzmanii gigante
« on: February 16, 2022, 08:59:03 AM »
Here is a great idea for the folks that criticized the
price on this variety from another seller who is shipping from USA, buy a large amount from Andre, pay the shipping from Brazil, phytosanitary and risk of loss then resell them on here at cost to help spread this rare fruit. 4 for $40 and guarantee at least one seed germinates would be very fair.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona salzmannii var "Giant"
« on: February 13, 2022, 04:43:11 PM »
I remember when Eugenia selloi Star Cherry was relatively expensive, Flying Fox Fruits was first in the USA to offer it that I know of and I’m sure he made good money bringing it to the market. Now it is common in cultivation. These rare species,first time ever offered to be cultivated out of Brazil, will eventually come down in price too once they become more common years later. I will argue that a grower that pays a higher price for seeds or plant will be more serious to do grafted plants and sell seeds of the species to get their initial investment back or more to buy more rare species.

Back then (5 years ago) he sold me seeds for $1 each.

I'm glad people give feedback on these exorbitantly-priced offerings, so the younger or more impressionable members can get some perspective, and see paying this much isn't a normal or required part of this hobby. I'm glad people do buy The Seeds Hunter's seeds though, so one day the species will be common, and I'll get to grow them too. I hope some are being sent to nurseries or qualified collectors for propagation, if the goal really is preservation. It would be sad if most of the expensive seeds are going to people without the skills to grow and propagate them.


Hey Nate, I think Adam has been working with Eugenia pitanga tuba for at least 10 years. The price of the plants back then on eBay just seemed high to me at that particular time with my limited experience in the hobby and the market at that time. Since then I think the demand for rare fruit species all over the world has gone up due to Covid and social media while supply is low since for quite a few years no seeds were getting out of Brazil. I think most folks that get in any hobby or business knows that there are different price points for items based on rarity. There are plenty of people that buy 50 grand cars and trucks that just lose value which I personally think is crazy but I’m not going to complain about the price to the dealership.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona salzmannii var "Giant"
« on: February 12, 2022, 04:47:03 PM »
I remember when Eugenia selloi Star Cherry was relatively expensive, Flying Fox Fruits was first in the USA to offer it that I know of and Iím sure he made good money bringing it to the market. Now it is common in cultivation. These rare species,first time ever offered to be cultivated out of Brazil, will eventually come down in price too once they become more common years later. I will argue that a grower that pays a higher price for seeds or plant will be more serious to do grafted plants and sell seeds of the species to get their initial investment back or more to buy more rare species.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona salzmannii var "Giant"
« on: February 10, 2022, 10:08:05 PM »
People sure like to complain on here. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy these seeds.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: THIEVES IN THE COMMUNITY
« on: February 03, 2022, 08:55:57 PM »
Came by to warm up next to this dumpster fire.

This is my advice for any buyer on here or anywhere online. Use PayPal no matter how known the seller is and no friends and family option. You have 180 days around 6 long months to file a dispute.Me personally donít have the patience to wait that long. If someone is more patient than that they should tell the seller to refund then let them know when the seeds are actually Available. Simple as that.

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