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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: March 29, 2023, 09:27:36 PM »
MangoMaven888, it was planted as a small 3gal April 7, 2019. It grew rapidly and first fruited in 2021--I removed most of the fruitlets, but missed a couple. My timing on picking them sucked, so I hope to do better this year. Last year the tree bloomed but the freeze ended that and set the tree back quite a bit. It bounced back rapidly and lost a couple limbs in Hurricane Ian, but this is where it is today. I doubt it'll hold on to all, but still hoping for a good amount to make it.

bovine421, how old is that graft? Looking forward to a taste report!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing Pouteria macrophylla?
« on: March 29, 2023, 09:21:15 PM »
Thanks, elouicious, let us know if they recover from the freeze!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Anyone growing Pouteria macrophylla?
« on: March 28, 2023, 08:44:49 PM »
Just got seeds in and was wondering what people's experience has been growing this? Namely, growth rate, size, temp range, time to fruit, etc. Particularly interested in Florida growers' experiences, but would like any input at all. Thanks!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Macro Fruitography and Zoom Shots
« on: March 28, 2023, 08:40:54 PM »
They're back . . .

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: March 28, 2023, 08:39:10 PM »
Sugarloaf coming along:

Coconut Cream seedling fruitlets:

Was hoping other seedling trees would push some blooms, but guess I have to give up on that this season.

Just received my Pouteria macrophylla seeds, including an extra! Excellent communication, as well. Very pleased! Thanks, SouthBayHapaJoe!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are these seedlings Bael Fruit?
« on: March 22, 2023, 04:33:45 PM »
Thanks, Satya and Jordan321! Cocoplum is a possibility, but the leaves seem rounder in a Cocoplum? Satya, did your seedlings have thorns on them (mine don't)? Did the leaves have a distinct aroma when crushed? I haven't checked leaf smell, but will if it's something that would help figure out what these are. Thanks for your replies!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Are these seedlings Bael Fruit?
« on: March 21, 2023, 02:50:06 PM »
I've looked at leaves online but don't feel confident I've made a match. Seeds were from Fruit & Spice Park, but I planted so many different things and lost labels in the storm. Is anyone growing Bael Fruit? Thanks!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Macro Fruitography and Zoom Shots
« on: March 19, 2023, 06:21:01 PM »
JCorte, is that a Brown Anole in the first photo of your most recent post? Are they in California? Beautiful photos!

Too funny about the Black Pepper, roblack! In the bug photo, an Assassin Bug is eating a fly that was pollinating my Pickering 😳 Fortunately, enough flies survived to achieve excellent fruit set😄. Thanks for the macro recommendation!

Speaking of Anoles, saw this Green beauty at Naples Botanical Garden this past Friday.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Macro Fruitography and Zoom Shots
« on: March 19, 2023, 02:15:21 PM »
Awesome photos! I need to get a macro lens, and I need to actually start using my digital camera. The cellphone is just too convenient though, when out working in the yard:

roblack, when I sent my friend pics of my first Passionflowers, he asked if they were real. After confirming they were, he dubbed them the Drag Queens of Flowers. I thought it a fitting epithet.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Selling: some plants
« on: March 16, 2023, 09:38:42 PM »
Pm sent


This is on some Sugarloaf fruitlets. Not all, thank goodness gracious. What is it and should anything be done? Thanks!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugarloaf seedling thread
« on: March 06, 2023, 07:42:58 PM »
I have three Sugarloaf seedlings in the ground.

Two are from a 2021 fruit from my tree. This one's leaves have an Indian-Alphonso scent, so I tried unsuccessfully to graft a Kathy scion onto it. I trimmed under the failed graft and will try again this upcoming summer.

This next one is from the same seed, but the leaves smell pineappley to me:

This last one is a 2022 seedling that came from a fruit we got from shot--easily one of the best mangos we've ever had. Two sprouts came from one seed. One sprout's leaves had an Indian-Alphonso smell to them, so it didn't get planted. This one's leaves have an Indochinese smell to them, so it's in ground now.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Illegal or Not?? Mango Scions
« on: March 04, 2023, 08:17:24 PM »
Too funny about 25 to Life, Jabba the Hutt! I wonder how a lawyer would handle the case if one was facing that? Would the people/business that sold the Coconut Cream Mango to the seed planter bear any responsibility--seeing that the patent information was not disclosed at the time of sale?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Illegal or Not?? Mango Scions
« on: March 04, 2023, 08:10:54 PM »
C-20 patent expires March 20, 2031

On a side note, based on what pagnr points out regarding gene expression, I wonder if Lemon Zest and Orange Sherbet are clones of Po Pyu Kalay?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Illegal or Not?? Mango Scions
« on: March 04, 2023, 08:08:28 AM »
To perhaps add to the confusion, I believe I read somewhere within the TFF that there can be differences within "clonal" seedlings--if I remember correctly (and it's a big if), they'll have the same genes, but they can be expressed differently? My brain doesn't understand scientific things, so apologies if I misread or misremembered this. Regardless, drymifolia addresses this by noting applicable propagation methods (rooting, grafting, tissue culture).

Galatian522, my planting Coconut Cream seeds was not meant as an affront to the hard work of the Zills.  I originally didn't know it was patented (didn't even know there was such a mango until 2017 or 2018). The 2018 seedling I have flowering has leaves that smell like what Alex calls Indian - Alphonso. I do not like this type of mango. If it holds fruit, I may need to enlist someone who like Alphonso-type mangos to rate its quality.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: March 03, 2023, 05:38:58 PM »
All my Sugarloaf fruitlets seem to have black spots on them -- guessing that's not good

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seedling Mango tree thread
« on: March 03, 2023, 04:37:30 PM »

Flies working the seedling Coconut Cream's blooms. Fingers crossed . . .

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: March 03, 2023, 04:25:28 PM »

Pickerings coming along

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Illegal or Not?? Mango Scions
« on: March 03, 2023, 04:16:13 PM »
I'm confused -- I thought you could plant seeds of Coconut Cream? Because it's polyembryonic, you're not necessarily creating a clone in the way grafting a scion would? Help clarify for a Coconut Cream seed planter!

I think actual Candy Corn is disgusting, and I will unfortunately be influenced by that if I ever get to taste a Mango with that name. I don't like the name (nor the suggested "Candy Sweet" I believe I read was suggested for M-4), and Watermelon Splash sounds like a sweet mixed drink that I wouldn't like. Watermelon is one of my all-time favorite fruits, but not sure it's a taste I'd appreciate in a Mango. Am I the only one who is influenced by names? Do people like Candy Corn?

Probably in the minority here, but I like names like "M-4" and "E-4".

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pine Island update? 2023 mango season
« on: February 27, 2023, 10:06:49 PM »
We're hoping too, shot . . . Through your farm, we've been able to try for the first time: Black Sapote, Ross Sapote, Canistel, Ice Cream Bean, Rollinia, and probably a couple other things I can't think of now, as well as top tier Mangos and Jackfruit and Sapodilla and Longan and Lychee picked at the perfect time. It's been our go-to for the best fruit fix. Looking forward to future visits.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: February 25, 2023, 04:04:55 PM »
Awesome updates! Our other two Pickerings and NDM#4 are pushing, but because of freeze and hurricane damage, I'm debating whether or not to let them hold fruit. In a recent Truly Tropical video, Har said flowering can occur anytime between November and May, so I'm still hoping our oldest seedling trees flower this year . . .

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: February 20, 2023, 07:31:57 PM »
Yes, even with the ones that've turned yellow and dropped, there's still an absurd amount growing. Also growing is the Coconut Cream seedling's panicles. Only one branch has panicles, though.

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