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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Redlands Summer Fruit Festival 2024
« on: May 23, 2024, 02:47:45 PM »

Saturday, June 22, 2024 - Sunday, June 23, 2024
11:00 AM - 6:00 PM

Summer Fruit Festival 2024
​​Showcasing local agriculture and tropical fruits that are abundant during the summer time. Vendors will be featuring tasty cuisine, arts & crafts, tropical fruit trees. We will have educational workshops, music…

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Future’s Florida Fruit Feast - Vol 11
« on: July 17, 2023, 02:14:46 PM »
I’m back!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango alongside Durian
« on: July 13, 2022, 11:16:59 AM »
What’s up TFF.

Fresh off DurianWriter’s latest tour, I’m inspired. Saw and learned a lot with my second Penang visit - arguably the world’s finest place for quality Durian. I saw many more mango trees than I noticed last time (only due to traveling to different locations).  But mango doesn’t appear to produce well there.

Durian and mango seem to have different needs - South Florida appearing near perfect for mango but deadly to Durian.  Penang is near perfect for Durian but hit and miss for mango. So it left me curious.

Who, if anyone, has seen a place where both thrive?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fruits of Zanzibar - Durian and more
« on: April 07, 2022, 03:46:00 PM »
Lindsay has outdone herself with her last three (Jan - Mar 2022) blog posts.

Super interesting Durian varieties plus a ton of other local delights.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Black Sapote as rootstock for?
« on: January 15, 2022, 05:29:05 PM »
What’s up guys. I see American Persimmon and black Sapote are graft compatible.  I have a black Sapote to topwork and wonder if anyone knows what else can be paired with

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Florida...October...fruit?
« on: September 16, 2021, 07:21:01 PM »
My travel hiatus will end but...what’s typically around in October?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Strawberry Guava Aborted flowers
« on: August 30, 2021, 09:06:37 AM »
So my oldest and biggest tree has never set a fruit.  It’s at least 12 years old and sets flowers but petals brown and flowers degrade before opening.  This seed was from Hawaii. It’s in a pot is busted through and earthed so I wonder if the restriction is the cause. Other tiny trees set fruit without issue.

Anyone else see this?

Interesting given it’s invasive status in Hawaii. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Variegated Mango
« on: October 25, 2020, 06:07:48 PM »
So I found a variegated Piña Colada seedling this year. In asking around, only one person said they’ve personally seen a variegated seedling come up and I see Adam/FF posted he had one as well.  Variegation seems a genetic weakness but I’m curious who else has seen one from their planting efforts.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Hurricane Paulette
« on: September 11, 2020, 05:07:23 PM »
Looks like Monday, we’ll have a visitor.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Dwarf Mango Project
« on: September 09, 2020, 06:36:30 PM »
Years ago I participated in what turned out to be an epic tomato breeding project.  It started with an enthusiast who found a dwarf tomato variety in a USDA collection (iirc).  He grew it out and sure enough, it was a stocky indeterminant plant that needed no staking and didn't take over the yard.

It was crossed with an heirloom varietty with superior flavor and the project was born.  It takes about 9 generations for tomatoes to stabalize after cross pollination.  So to speed up the process, seeds were shared in the northern and southern hemispheres, getting at least two growing seasons in per year.  Second generation seeds segregate for parental traits and the selection begins. 

During the selection process, we planted out received seeds, say 1-2 dozen and it quickly becamse apparent which picked up the dwarf trait.  They were half the size of the other seedlings.  These were kept and grown out searching for something worthy, the other's culled.   

Fast forward and there are about 100 dwarf varieties that were created - big, flavorful heirloom quality in a manageable grow-in-a-pot tomato plant.  These were shared with small scale seed companies and have become widely available now.

So the selection process left me wondering about mangoes.  I know the genes are different (heterozygous vs. homozygous) and but paradoxically, selection might be faster with grafting onto already mature trees.  I have an ultra low branching Julie seedling in my yard and I'm curious, what % of Julie seedlings carry the dwarf 9or slow growing) trait.

And what % of those would provide an interesting improvement on Julie?

Cuttings from the dwarf reverse grafted onto an already mature tree would tell within a few seasons...

Footnote I contributed to Dwarf Kangaroo Paw

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Future's Florida Fruit Feast Vol 10
« on: July 12, 2020, 12:33:44 PM »
And so it continues...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Hurricane Humberto
« on: September 14, 2019, 06:07:03 PM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Trinidad: Everbearing Julie Mango
« on: September 06, 2019, 05:32:43 PM »
So I met a guy from Trinidad yesterday who claims the tree in his mother’s yard bears all year. Never heard of such so wondering if anyone at that latitude or otherwise has witnessed such a big phenomenon. It begs the question, what would be inducing multiple blooms in that climate.

There are a significant number if people here planting mango from seed.  Tear through enough seeds are you will confirm plants that are normally mono can throw poly seeds and vice versa.  I am curious if anyone is attempting / tracking / or close to fruiting one of these seeds: specifically what does a poly tree spitting a mono seed do and vice versa.  Of course, one result won't be definitive but for those seeking the 'off types' from elite mango varieties to begin the next elite generation, its another path...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mangifera Indica is a myth
« on: July 11, 2019, 10:43:35 AM »
Another of many threads from recent conversation with Dr Campbell: He has a theory that what we call m. Indica is actually just descendant of wild Borneo mangoes.  I am paraphrasing but he indicated he will probably do a paper at some point which details what we think of as India vs. SE Asian mango as actually having common origin in Borneo.  If true, this would shatter common wisdom that India is mango’s birthplace.

Incidentally, he has several wild mangoes growing in his front yard. One was found within six feet of the ocean, essentially growing in sand and must have its feet in salt water...

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Sierra Leone Mango Project On YouTube
« on: July 06, 2019, 11:50:06 AM »
Chris at Truly Tropical has become a tremendous friend and mentor to be this past 8 years.  It was mainly through her, plus Sheehan and Dr. Noris Ledesma’s efforts I was able to acquire the best of the best. Please share.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango Tasting Event - Central Florida
« on: July 01, 2019, 08:29:55 AM »
I strongly caution any diabetics.

South Florida's gourmet mangoes have been delivered Central Florida. 

In Lake Mary, on Sunday July 7th from 5-7pm we'll enjoy +25 elite varieties.  Probably a lot more. 

Only 10 seats available.  Booking required on first come, first serve basis. 

Pricing $50.  Prices spin up with first booking at $25.  Second at $30.  Third at $35.  Fourth at $40.  5th at $45.  Capped at $50. 

Booking via PM and Paypal.

Part proceeds to

Question: Are you guys seriously ready for this?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / The Truth About Kryptonite Mango
« on: June 29, 2019, 06:02:28 PM »
So I’ve spent  5 hours with Richard Campbell between yesterday and today.  Among the storylines, and there were many, he says Kryptonite is Kathy is K-3.

We had one today that was perfectly ripe and excellent.   

Even Sheehan would have eaten it.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Raw Honey Mango
« on: June 19, 2019, 09:05:30 AM »
Has anyone heard of a Zill mango fruit called Raw Honey?

You may recall last year I made an epic journey, transporting 35 mango trees from Florida to Hope Academy for Girls School in Sierra Leone.  33 survived.  The trees are the first plants to go into the school for underprivileged girls botanical garden run by my mother in law.  I've since added trees from Malaysia too.  The school receives zero government funds. Paying staff and running the school is purely by donations.  In a country where 9 in 10 girls don't finish high school, it is sorely needed.  Right now the garden, a source of income for the school,  is wide open and at risk.  I need your help.  I've setup a fundraiser to build the perimeter wall than will protect the garden and the school.  My team will be taking the plunge in chilly waters this February to raise money.  Please donate to protect our Zill mango trees and!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango seed germination absent sprout
« on: September 15, 2018, 04:51:54 PM »
I potted up mango seeds in scores late July.  >90% have skyrocketed. Went to reuse the few pots showing no activity and 6 of the 9 actually had viable seeds still there. All had roots, were green/white and one had roots all the way out the pot.  But no six weeks and no stem sited. 

Have you seen this before?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Hurricane Florence
« on: September 04, 2018, 12:37:54 PM »
In the next few days we’ll have a better idea if this will affect us or not.

I heard polyembryonic mango seeds can send up as many as 20 shoots. I have a Cac seed currently with 14. What is the most you have seen?

Footnote: has anyone noticed Cac leaves are uneven widths left to right?  The leaf’s dividing line is off centre.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mango Terroir - The Next Frontier
« on: August 08, 2018, 07:11:03 AM »
Not a horror show.


tɛrˈwɑː,French tɛrwar/Submit
noun: terroir
the complete natural environment in which a particular wine is produced, including factors such as the soil, topography, and climate.
the characteristic taste and flavour imparted to a wine by the environment in which it is produced.
noun: goût de terroir; plural noun: goût de terroirs”

Where fruit cultivars vary widely in character and further vary widely by growing conditions, terroir is relevant. I say specifying conditions required to produced specific results - flavor, texture, sweetness etc - is the next frontier for gourmet mango growers (and other fruits).

No better place to start that among the world’s premier resource, right here.

What have you noticed makes the difference with a specific mango?  Things that can be controlled would be ideal to note.

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