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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: anyone growing meiogyne cylindrocarpa?
« on: November 30, 2014, 03:06:09 PM »
After nearly eleven months of inactivity, one of my seeds finally germinated. There is no above ground shoot yet, I noticed it only after accidentally disturbing the soil. This is perhaps the lomgest germination periods I have have experienced, with luck they will grow faster than my Duguetia.

What's the fruit like? Does it take good? good pulp?

Lilith, have you seen this one? It is in your range, could you please include a photo of the seeds?

This orange pulp has been described as sweet and pleasantly flavored. The fruit similar in looks, though not closely related to Annona purpurea, instead to A. sericea. 5-9 centimeters is an extreme exaggeration, instead it is closer to 4.5, occasionally reaching seven.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A race to breach the soil!
« on: October 31, 2014, 11:08:17 AM »
I am sorry again.
The   seed supplied by me as Fissistigma  verrucosum is actually Senna occidentalis syn Cassia occidentalis


Thank you fpr the ID, Roy. One of my plants is flowering, and they are quite nice.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Orange Frost Hardy Satsuma
« on: October 30, 2014, 11:17:35 AM »
Thanks everyone. I have no plans to overwinter it outdoors- according to to the website I posted above it should hardy to 8a, rather than 7.

Tom, I have nothing against pampering plants. Most of my plants are ultra-tropical and would not survive an hour outdoors during the winter.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona bullata
« on: October 22, 2014, 09:34:33 AM »
According to Safford, the fruit is hard and sour, and 'unfit for the table.' The wood is aromatic, while the leaves are eaten by horses and cattle and the fruit by pigs. As for grafting, it's closest (obtainable) relative would be the cherimoya, and most likely compatible with atemoya?

Here is from Safford's book 'The Classification of the Genus Annona':
Richard is quite right in recognizing the relation of this species to Annona cherimola, but, for reasons assigned in describing the section Saxigena, it seems advisable to place to place this and A. crassivenia in a special section.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Duguetia, what's the deal?
« on: September 28, 2014, 12:52:00 PM »
Alex, did you not say that as a result of transplanting your Duguetia megalocarpa seedlings into individual pots killed them? Do you know if this was simply a result of transplant shock, or in fact caused by moving them from the strawberry guava?

My lone seedling is growing considerably slower than any other annonaceae spp. that I have experience with; however, it is wick and I expect it to shed it's shell soon. The four inch pot in which it is currently growing contains coconut fiber and composted wood chips that I stelized immediately before sowing-- I do not see how mychorrizae could have been introduced.

Hey Soren, I only have one plant, is that enough to get fruit from this tree or does it need a partner?

I believe all myranthius spp are dioecious. Also, reference Søren's first post.

Several Artocarpus spp have an impressive show; but my favorite is cola cauliflora - not only the nuts but especially the leaves are amazing; a winner as an understorey tree.

Soren, regarding this Cola sp., is it worth growing for the fruit?  I understand that the arils are edible but I have no idea of how much flesh is on the aril or what its flavor is like... is it like monkey cola (C. lepidota & pachycarpa)?


Not sure; I believe only the nut can be consumed (chewed). I got Cola lepidota as well; but understand that one doesn't have an edible nut.
All are seedlings.

Søren, the seed of C. lepidota is used as a stimulant, but I am not sure how it is ingested.
I emailed Eric Wirsiy on Cola species a while back, and he claimed that C. lepidota was the best in terms of pulp, also being the sweetest. This one is on my wishlist with along with praecuta.

The fruit looks akin to A. rugulosa... I can't comment on the leaves. How was it acidity wise?

I hope you are able to try more, sounds like an interesting fruit nonetheless. Perhaps you wouldn't mind sharing seeds if you get enough (Of course our master breeder Coconut should get a chance before me  ;))

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Achacha versus Mex. Garcinia - 5 years later
« on: September 03, 2014, 07:25:23 PM »
I am calling you on this one; the Mexican Garcinia (Mexican Achachairu) does not exist.

What makes you say this?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID this fruit from India PLEASE
« on: September 01, 2014, 08:39:06 AM »
Is it Diospyros ferrea?

I actually came to this thread to reccomend Diospyros ferrea, but I believe you are correct on the identification.
Also, leaves and peduncles are akin to that of a D. virginiana.

So, it is unlikely that it would be able to hybridize with Rollinia deliciousa, a true Rollinia. Not that it isn't worth the shot, of course.
Sorry for the multiple posts!

Wow, great news!
I should hope for a 'decent sized' review on this species  ;) ;)

Keep us posted!

BTW, this one was renamed as Annona schunkei by Rainier (and a few others) during the Great Merging.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Asimina Trilobas in the wild
« on: August 20, 2014, 10:28:07 PM »
Congratulations, Bob, a beautiful specimen! Sounds like a great strain, did you plant any seeds?

There is a sapling not far into the forest near me, about three meters tall with several suckers. I cannot locate any parent or sister trees in the woods nearby, unfortunately.

Adam, keep us updated on your plight! The internet is severely lacking in information on these temperate annonaceae. If you manage to locate A. parviflora or reticulate, these are two species I am interested in.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Durio pinangianus
« on: August 17, 2014, 11:08:36 AM »
Congratulations on the find! Looks very interesting, can't wait to hear about it!

According to Beccari, this species was a subtaxon of Durio testudinarius (D. t. subsp. pinangianus, respectively), only corrected later by Ridley.
Sooo… similarities? The split pods do not appear to contain any pulp, at least from what I can make out in the photo.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona edulis?
« on: August 16, 2014, 03:54:29 PM »
There is a Rollinia edulis.

Rollinia edulis is synonomous with Annona edulis. The seeds that have beem circling the internet over the last few months I suspect are R. e. var. acuta, rather than the larger leaved var. macropus, if the photos supplied by the seller are anything to go on.

From Paulo (I think he has an account on the forum, if so I am hoping he will chime in):
I do not know Annona edulis, but I can say that these seedlings the figure are very much similar to Rollinia mucosa.
From Jackson:
Hiya Patrick,
Yes i used to have a few R. deliciosa plants (from seed) and my A. edulis do not look or have any habits like that of the R. deliciosa i sprouted.

Har, here are a few photos of my seedlings, what do you think?

Roy, photo 9 appears to be the 'true' Garcinia cowa, and matches the leaf and fruit descriptions on India Biodiversity.

I believe you are correct on Garcinia kydia, but information is scarce.

Dear Patrick
Please have your comment on the discussion board so that members can interact further on this species.
According to  the site on Indianbiodiversity,photos 9 & 14 are fruits of Garcinia cowa which is available in some parts of Kerala and Karnataka but what I have seen in Mizoram,Chengkek is Garcinia cowa and the photo numbers 1 & 2 match with this species.I always thought the Garcinia fruit resembling tomato is Garcinia cowa.
Thank you

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A. squamosa Boca Giant Chewy
« on: July 27, 2014, 04:03:34 PM »
Congratulations! They look like winners to me, and love the description Seadation!

My two remaining plants are growing quite rapidly. The pinnate leaves close when shaded or exposed to midday heat, and the plant will refuse to grow if not placed full sun. Definitely not a houseplant, at least while seedlings.



Speaking of rare… one of my Eugenia longiracemosa seeds (unfortunately) rotted. When I cut off the rotten half, I found the endosperm to be a deep eggplant purple, scented heavily of roses and blueberries. Personally, I would be curious as to the chemical content of these seeds.

Thank you, Vitor!

Sanitarium, I copied all informative posts on the subject by Vitor, and have them saved in PDF form. If you want it send me an email.
I will be doing the same with a few other topics I would hate to dissapear.

One of my E. longiracemosa's is an albino, all leaves maturing to white. Green leaved seedlings are rather slow to start, though. Duguetia megalocarpa is coming up even slower, and has been 'sprouting' for the past few weeks now, though making little progress. Tetragastris hostmannii seed rotted, much to my displeasure. Vitor, will you be able to find this species again in the future? Also, will it be possible to sell seeds of these species?

Annona nitida
Caryocar nuciferum
Eugenia ternatifolia
Fusaea longifolia
Inga cinnamomea
Lacunaria jenmanii
Talisia sylvatica
Tetragastris hostmannii

Thank you!

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« on: July 01, 2014, 11:37:56 AM »
Note the rather inconspicous calyx at the base of the fruit, which is not present in sapindaceae. I am certain that this is a species of Ixora, perhaps Ixora brachiata? This species looks much like the photo of thondi.

Small tree, up to 7 meters tall. Fruit berry, red-purple, 5 mm across, globose, glabrous; pyrenes planoconvex.
The fruit in the photo appears to be unripe:

More information here:

Cassio, Pappea capensis is an Africa native, and a rather uncommon one at that. I am doubtful of it's presence in Kerala.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« on: July 01, 2014, 09:13:48 AM »
In the video desciption the person said that he thought the plant belonged to rubiaceae.
I believe that this thondi fruit is actually a species of Ixora, which also belongs to rubiaceae.
Perhaps it is Ixora coccinea? The fruit's vernacular names (thechi and thetti) bear close resemblence to thondi.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia sp. Shawi from ebay
« on: June 28, 2014, 09:33:10 PM »
I think it would be a good idea to move discussion on Annona edulis to this thread.

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