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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Purple Leaf Plum Fruit
« on: May 17, 2025, 07:58:07 PM »
My Hollywood plum is sourced from Dave Wilson nursery. Flowers are pink. Heavy fruit set. Ripened mid July to August last year, it’s first holding fruit. Vigorous pretty tree. Fruit are small but 2 to 3 times the diameter of a cherry.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pouteria lucuma
« on: April 06, 2025, 03:15:59 PM »
Do seedling Lucuma trees flower for many years before setting fruit? I ask because I have a tree that has flowered heavily for 5 years and never set a fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Painters Cherilata.
« on: February 07, 2025, 12:39:40 PM »
Cherilata is a strong grower in Southern California. I also noticed that leaves do not drop in march-May like cherimoya. Mine started to tip burn in spring but do not drop till early summer. It flowers a couple of months  later than cherimoya too. Fingers crossed that fruit improves.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Painters Cherilata.
« on: February 05, 2025, 07:45:14 PM »
@Seanny. What months did they fall into the bag?

The fruits on my tree are in various states of development including one that may be ripe. They set pretty well without hand pollination. Hope they taste better than styrofoam this season.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Painters Cherilata.
« on: February 03, 2025, 05:35:35 PM »
I have a Cherilata on its third year. Last year I harvested the 1 fruit it held over the winter in July. It took over a week to soften and had very little flavor or sweetness. The flesh had mild red blush. Did I harvest at the wrong time? This year it is holding about 10 fruits. Anyone in Southern California getting good fruits from their Cherilata trees? The tree grows well but it will likely go to the cull pile if it does not perform.

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Louie’s in Riverside probably has some annonas.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Unripe atemoyas split while on the tree,
« on: November 28, 2024, 12:12:10 PM »
Some atemoya varieties tend to split with fall and winter rains in Cali. They will sometimes ripen but it is a race between ripening and mold starting at the split points.

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Those varieties require 700 and 800 chill hours which is way more than you get in most areas of Southern California. I would plant a variety that is low chill and more likely to give you fruit. You could always search out some scions of those 2 varieties to graft to whatever you plant. A nonproductive branch or 2 is no big deal.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Falll Annona Scions 2024
« on: October 26, 2024, 06:39:57 PM »
I have never tried grafting cherimoya or atemoya in the fall. Always do spring grafts. What is your success rate in the fall? Any special considerations/techniques?

You have a bunch of varieties I want, if not now in spring. Just threw 5 seedlings into the ground this week planning ahead for spring grafts.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bananas.org dead?
« on: July 16, 2024, 10:59:59 AM »
When it is up Bananas.org has some good resources, particularly their bananawiki. The site is so slow and clunky. Really a shame as they have good info archived and many photos. Would love it if this forum created a banana subsection.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Purple Leaf Plum Fruit
« on: June 25, 2024, 05:44:32 PM »
Try Hollywood plum. It is pretty widely available, a strong grower and quite productive of small plums with dark red skin and flesh.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pellet Rifle Advice
« on: June 03, 2024, 11:26:41 AM »
My experience with ground squirrels over the past 3 years in the San Diego area has been eye opening. I am in a semi rural area, Bonsall. Moved here 5 years ago. Property was largely barren but well populated with Squirrels. Have planted about 200 trees. First year the trees were decimated by squirrels. Got an air rifle, Benjamin Marauder, and started hunting. Got about 10 in a week but it did not make a dent. Got a squirrelinator trap. Wow!! Captured and euthanized over 100 poor souls over the next 6 months. Some of those were undoubtably reinfestation from adjacent properties.

Since that eradication the trap is put out whenever I see them on my property. Have gotten about 2 per month since. My property is 2.5 acres.

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It would be an interesting experiment. If you can get the vertical flower to bend towards your property it might work out. Are you on good enough terms with your neighbor that you can offer to share a hand or 2 come harvest time?

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First I have heard of this hybrid. My main concern would be chill requirement for flowering and fruit set.

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It may have dropped leaves for spring dormancy. Are buds swelling? Full sun is usually not a problem if you acclimate the plant.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Sapote Fruit Shapes
« on: March 11, 2024, 04:55:18 PM »
Ha ha ha. Looks like green tomatoes. WS fruit are surprisingly variable in size and shape.

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Brad, I would suggest Fino de Jete. It is between A and B pattern.  Could send you cuttings.

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@mcoambassador my trees have had the good fortune to have only rare exposure to either light frost or extreme heat residing 5 to 15 miles from the coast. Luciida, Nata, and Orton have been weak growers for me. Other than those all other varieties have thrived and fruited well on strong cherimoya rootstock. For me rootstock vigor has trumped variety in determining how an individual tree has done. With late summer heat all of my cherimoya have shown some stress such as burned leaves and burned fruit when not under the canopy. Not growing it now but Booth has been my most bullet proof variety in the past.

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I have planted and fruited about 30 cherimoya and atemoya varieties over a span of 35 years in Orange and San Diego counties. Some I have tried on 3 different properties. Most have done very well. The most important variable for me has been the quality of the rootstock. In my conditions anything grafted to a really strong cherimoya rootstock has done well. Dr White, Fino de Jete, El Bumpo, and Pierce have given the highest fruit quality. My current property has enough room that all the varieties are on individual trees as opposed to multigrafted trees. Still trying new cultivars as I find them. Looking forward to adding more in future years.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Cherimoya Source Recommendation
« on: February 26, 2024, 08:20:07 PM »
I Know Anthony well. He is a good man and would not knowingly misrepresent his trees. When prices are particularly favorable it is more profitable to buy from another grower than go through seedling and graft process. Mislabeling can occur at any stage of the process. It is a lot of time and work. When he does it himself he makes sure the scion wood expresses the said phenotype.

Sorry for anyone who has mislabeled trees. I have at least 4 cherimoyas trees that are not what they were sold as. Amazes me because they were well grafted strong plants. Someone thought they were doing good.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Starting a farm in Southern California
« on: November 21, 2023, 05:23:54 PM »
Janet, so impressive. I can relate to all the challenges and hard work as I have put in about 1.5 acres of orchard on my home property just south of you in Bonsall over the past 3 years. For me the two limiting resources have been time and of course water. I have a well that has covered my needs so far but they are more modest than what your acreage will require. Looking at your projects makes me jealous and exhausted for all the possibilities.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB grafted white sapote trees.
« on: November 03, 2023, 11:33:16 AM »
Not really acreage Ollie. I have between 1 and 1.5 acres of orchard. Any more would start to feel like work.

I will now have a Suebelle seedling and the Vernon in ground to accept grafts in future years. May plant a third WS to replace a useless landscape tree on a moderate slope. Regardless,I am sure just one white sapote will produce more fruit than I can shovel within a couple years. Just one more fruit crop to keep he chickens fat.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB grafted white sapote trees.
« on: November 02, 2023, 06:40:57 PM »
Found a grafted Vernon for $39 at the Oceanside Home Depot. Will plant it with plans to graft scions in the spring.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / WTB grafted white sapote trees.
« on: November 01, 2023, 03:50:10 PM »
Would like to plant Mcdill or Younghans gold. Open to most others except Suebelle which I already have. Thanks in advance.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Alano sapodilla
« on: October 17, 2023, 07:12:22 PM »
Thanks Brad. This year I only had 3 fruits and the critters must have got ‘em. Was worried that I missed harvest season and they just fell off. Looks like I will have many more fruit next year.

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