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That's really neat! I know grafted garcinias don't do the best but maybe grafting a scion from a mature tree directly to a root would be more effective than a traditional graft to a seedling?

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The smaller varieties of sapodilla do very well in containers. Grumichama also seem happy in a container.

Thank you for the heads up! I didn't know he ships to California.

I'll go with the Celtics, thanks for doing the contest!

I was having the same issue after mine defoliated due to freeze over the winter. I put 50% shade cloth over it and it seems to be coming back now

It might be a long shot but I would like to purchase cuttings of Selenicereus spinulosus. I'm located in central California.
Thanks in advance!

Fruitwood nursery sells scions of several cold hardy varieties. As far as rootstock goes, you can probably find some mexicola or mexicola grande seeds on this board in season.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A watermellon question.....
« on: May 13, 2022, 01:43:29 PM »
Here they grow like weeds too. They like lots of fertilizer and well drained soil. If you use a grow bag or container use a really big one and give them lots of space. I recommend planting a very early maturing variety like blacktail mountain. That gives less possibility of something bad happening before the fruit matures.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: seeds
« on: May 13, 2022, 11:34:22 AM »
I received everything in quickly and in great shape. 
Thanks again!

Thank you all for the suggestions. I will cut back on fertilizer, thin the fruit as suggested and make sure to water on a regular schedule.

I have a wax jambu in a 23" container. It is beginning to bloom profusely as it does every year. It seems to be healthy with plenty of nice foliage. The problem I have had is that it drops nearly all the fruit before it is ripe. Is there any way to prevent this? Could it be a nutritional issue? Should I thin the fruit after it blooms?
Thanks in advance for any advice,

Hi, I'm interested in just one scion of each variety (I only have 2 small plant s for rootstock). but I'm happy to pay full price. Pm sent.
Thank you,

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lara farms = awesome
« on: February 24, 2022, 11:57:16 AM »
I purchased a few trees from him and I was also impressed. The trees were packaged for shipping better than any other seller I've purchased from and shipping was very reasonable to California, which is great since many sellers won't even ship to California at all.

Looking to buy avocado seeds for rootstock. Prefer more cold hardy varieties. Located in central California.

Thank you

Thank you for the encouragement, Jack. It sounds like you have had an interesting career in growing fruit and seeing the changes in our climate. We still get low 20's up here maybe every other year, but nothing like 30 years ago when I was a kid. I remember low twenties and teens frequently and having to break thick ice in the horse's water trough every morning. No one grew citrus here when I was a kid, but now you see them around and mine do fine unprotected.
That's great you are able to grow such a variety of plants down there. I have some more tropical plants in the greenhouse that are doing well but still far from fruiting. I think I will try a white sapote up against the house to see what happens. I look forward to checking out the upcoming CRFG scion exchange. I've wanted to go in the past but haven't been able to make it.

Owen, climate is changing....when we first moved to Nipomo local nurseries did not think we could grow avocados.  We consistently had low 20's during the winter with long duration.  Between freezing years I grew up different tender trees to the point of having some success.  We used covers, return stack heaters (lots of diesel), and sprinklers.  We therefore had limited success.  Now, we see bare 28 degree winters rarely, short duration, don't see any frost damage.  One year 45 yrs ago we had 17 degrees, killing many eucalyptus growing in the area.  Our 40 varieties of avocados are mature, about 45 macadamias doing well, and white, yellow, black sapotes undamaged.  Last year I planted out 6 mangos, put another 8 in the greenhouse.  All will be out this Spring.  I did encircle and cover the outside mangos for 2 nights last year.  I will be planting out some other subtropicals this Spring also like Monkey Orange, Nance, and two lychees (Already have had Longans out for years).  Don't know how cold you get in Atascadero, but life is short and planting out these "rare" fruits is a gamble.  I'm more worried about our reduced rainfall.  Then again, now maybe I've brought down the gods of the freezes as a result of the aforementioned.
:o Now you did it Jack ::)

So that would be a cleft graft off to one side of the rootstock to closer match the diameter of the rootstock? This sounds like a simple solution. I do have experience with cleft grafting on other trees (not avocado)
For large diameter avocado rootstock, modified cleft graft works best for me.  It has a high success rate, maybe even higher than the regular cleft graft.  At least for me it does.  Good luck!

Thank you Scott, Jack, Mark, Mason and everyone else! This thread is extremely helpful.
I know that Atascadero is probably marginal at best for growing the most cold hardy avocados. Is anyone aware of any mature avocado trees in Atascadero or north San Luis Obispo county? The rootstock I have is an assortment of aravaipa, duke, and mexicola. I have been planning to buy scions from fruitwood nursery since they have a selection of more cold hardy varieties.
The rootstock is in my heated greenhouse, and I have 50% shade cloth over half where I plan to do the grafting. I think I will try a variety of grafting methods with the suggestions here.

Excellent advice from Jack, Kaz, Brad,and Mark I live closer to Ocean than Jack, but on Mesa and we have found out through many years that grafting avocado's in our area of Calif. works best in Jan-Feb.
Owen, the challenge for you in Atascadero is cold in Winter time so, if you do top work your trees using which ever graft but paper bag over your graft's that's what i do until they start to push new growth. I use modified whip & tongue.

Owen, you can go to CRFG-Central Coast and see Newsletter to check latter in Dec or Jan. for sure to see if we will be having scion exchange. I manage scion exchange with my wife and we don't know yet if we will have exchange because of Covid.

Thank you, these tips are very helpful. I will try some side cleft and bark grafts too.  Hopefully I'll end up with a few healthy trees.

thumb size is kind of a hard size because its too big to do a normal cleft graft and on the small size for bark grafts.  Vaneer is a good option because the sizes dont need to match that closely and you can put multiple grafts on.  You could try doing some small bark grafts also above the vaneers.  If you do vaneer grafts only, you can leave the top on the tree for 6 weeks then once the graft is well healed lop the top off to force the graft to grow.  Also remove all other suckers and shoots off the rootstock once you are confident the graft is healed and has taken. 

the downside to vaneer grafts is they usually end up with a little kink where the graft was.  Its good to tape the scionwood against the trunk above the graft to try and get it as straight vertical as possible.  So it doesnt grow sideways.  Also vaneer grafts tend to be more fragile than clefts o bark grafts.  You need to keep it taped and possibly staked and supported longer so the vaneer doesnt rip off.  Especially with a larger rootstock, the graft can grow back rapidly and get heavy and want to rip off the tree.  It can work well though you just need to do more aftercare with some types of grafts. 

You can also do offset cleft grafts and just only match the cambium on one side.  Thumb size is a little large to do this with but finger size is ok.  The grafts usually take with this type of graft but the bigger the diameter and more mismatched the sizes are, the longer it takes to heal.  You could try some of these types on the smaller ones if a regular cleft is not going to match up and do some vaneers under the offset clefts also.

I have several large diameter avocado rootstock, some as big as my thumb and 4-5 feet tall. What is the best grafting method for this size of rootstock? I have seen veneer grafts recommended, but I am open to suggestions.

Thanks in advance!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Papayas without the vomit taste
« on: November 24, 2021, 11:36:47 AM »
Thanks for the ideas. I'll buy some red lady seeds and give it a try since they are inexpensive anyway.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Papayas without the vomit taste
« on: November 22, 2021, 09:17:54 PM »
Does anyone have first hand knowledge of the height of red lady papaya? I'm wondering if it might work well in the greenhouse. I see some sites describe it as dwarf.

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