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Lz grows well but has lots of disease issues. Lots of flowers but fruit set is severely compromised.

Os grows easily but hasn't flowered for me for 3 years straight now.

Ppk grows like a turtle and holds a couple fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: May 29, 2022, 05:47:40 AM »
Hey brad

My green gold is a clear champ. Different from yours. Mine grows straight up, strong central leader, sets tons of fruit yearly, basically a problem free tree with lots of excellent large fruit.

Got mine from epicenter.
My hass is alternate bearing because it holds so much fruit every other year.

My Pinkerton is also a champ. I have 2 of them. One is bushy, the other grows upright. Both flower and fruit profusely every year.

Leavens hass and ardith were killed by gopher/vole combo. Same with Rio hass.

Yes, thanks to all involved.

All trees were potted into 3g pots in liner mix.

Some of them look like they're trying to bud out. I assume flowers for on second year wood, so unlikely to get flowers this year. Not sure if the buds will survive or not, but the weather we now have should be excellent for rooting out.

When did people receive the last orders? Sorry - I hadn't been paying attention to previous orders.


We will use same color of label for each variety as we did for last time.
For new variety, we will add other type of colors.

If you run out of color labels or it is difficult to find a different color, just use combinations. Is specific combination can represent a different variety I'm good thank you

Revival roots - I'll send you a message.

Yes thank you so much for putting this together.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: avocado question
« on: February 16, 2022, 04:29:23 AM »
Normal for California trees especially. Don't worry too much about it. They will flush strongly. In the meantime, take a good luck at the exposed branches and paint the wood to protect it from sunburn. The new leaves should shade most of the exposed wood, but in the event that there's a gap, severe sunburn can seriously stunt your tree. My kahaluu is still recovering from the great burn of 2018.

Can you please put me down for 3 of each female please and 1 of each male please?

3 wusu female
3 biqi female
3 late growing female
3 crystal female
3 dongqui female
3 black crystal female
3 an Hai female

1 bq male
1 LG male
1 cr male
1 dk male

Total 25 trees


Hi there. Is it too late to jump in on the order? Ideally I'd take 2 of each. I'm in orange.


Let me clarify - yes you can plant now but I don't recommend it. The plant won't grow (much... Some of my in ground are still flushing or started to flower) but the disease pressures are high and it's much easier for me to control in pots than in ground hooked up to irrigation. A few years ago I lost 1/3 of my mangos before spring started. For me it's just easier to keep protected and on the dry side (don't overwater).

No, keep overwinter in pot with minimal watering, protect from wind, and plant in March or April. Die back from freeze and fungus typically shows in March first.

They sold out immediately 🤷🏽‍♂️ local price in stores is what, 13$/pound? This is a bargain compared to that, and for named top tier varieties, it'd a no brainer.

You can buy from here.  For 29$ per pound it should come labeled...  :o :'(

For that price, they should drive them to you and spoon feed you after all seeds are removed.

Pay attention to the screc website. This offer unfortunately already sold out but they had top tier varieties for sale at a bargain.

The first Cherimoya Pop-Up Presale is now live! We currently have only 23 bags of cherimoya for sale. Each bag contains between 5-8 pieces of fruit and weighs ~8-10lbs.

Bags are $50 each and contains a mix of the following varieties: Carmella, Sabor, Orton, Fino de Jete, Deliciosa, Selma, Big Sister, Pierce, Chaffey, Whaley, Oxheart, Santa Rosa, and White. 

All bags are prepacked; fruit cannot be swapped or exchanged.

Bags will be available for pickup on Friday, December 4th from 9-12pm at UC South Coast Research in Irvine. To purchase, please visit:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: how much watering in how cold weather?
« on: November 30, 2020, 02:03:55 AM »
Depends what you are watering, whether or not the plant goes dormant in the cold season, and the type of soil you have. As an example, I water my avocados 3 times weekly in summer and once every 1-2 weeks in winter if there is no rain.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pinkerton avocado as rootstock
« on: November 26, 2020, 01:03:44 AM »
Large commercial grower in Fallbrook said to loon for big seeds or west Indian, and frank has seconded the west Indian suggestion. I've had great luck with bacon seedlings I got from Brad. Fast and vigorous growing trees.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Air Layering Balls
« on: November 26, 2020, 01:01:19 AM »
I tried similar ones. Worked well enough on figs in late spring.

My trees have grown pretty well the past 2 years, although I haven't been on top of pruning. Seedlings definitely grow best, but some varieties like lemon zest and orange essence and Ambrosia have grown very well for me. My best fruit this year has been pina colada (brix 27-30, ripe in November) and cac (brix 26, ripe in October). Coconut cream had brix 16 but still carried its flavor well. Taralay alwa had been brix about 15, good texture and flavor just OK. Ambrosia I believe is not true Ambrosia, got it from plantogram. M4 has put out lots of fruit which I harvested early last week prior to ripening... I picked early because I figured our Temps were dropping and they wouldn't get any better, will report later. Overall, I was disappointed until tasting the Pina colada and cac. There's hope for next year. For comparison, I had picked 1 Pina colada 1 month ago, brix about 16 and not anything special. 1 month later - fantastic taste. Orange sherbet put out several mangos but the ones I've tried so far haven't been anything special either. I chalk it up to young trees. I'm planning on changing my fertilization and watering practices next spring and expecting better quality fruit next year.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to top work cherimoya trees
« on: November 12, 2020, 03:56:04 AM »
Yeah, I'll pull one up. Give me a couple of days. Won't get to yard u til the weekend.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to top work cherimoya trees
« on: November 10, 2020, 11:17:42 PM »
Modified cleft /veneer. And you can still cleft the top if you like.

Hi there. Looks like you really  Looks like you really want to make sure that you're doing it right. Over all you have a have a great shape which is the 1st part. If you want to get down to the fine details, up most of us will prune the tree individual branches when they get to about 18" long which is usually to flushes or so. I like to prune by tipping at the node so that but a buds an individual leaves get activated and you get branching all along being a new branch as opposed to multiple buds activated at the note which results in branching all at the same spot which is weaker. This should result  In shorter But stronger branches that have Better architecture. Good luck. As for fertilizing, some people fully or spray every month. I am on and off with that period otherwise you can fertilize every 3 months of be aware that in Winter the tree slows down you may not want to push the nitrogen. Same with growth. If you are happy with the growth in don't want the tree to become much larger com I would not push the nitrogen.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: August 06, 2020, 10:11:34 PM »
My reed tree set fruit for the first time this year.  They're sizing up quickly. Already baseball size. I should be harvesting them next year right? Is that normal? For them to get so large so fast? It's on toro canyon rootstock.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black sapote problems
« on: August 03, 2020, 03:04:22 AM »
6 feet tall and 8 feet wide. Many branches, bright green leaves, almost 100 flowers per tree, maybe more. They look just like persimmon flowers  but end up drying and falling off.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Black sapote problems
« on: August 02, 2020, 09:51:17 PM »
Hi all

I have 2 in ground black sapote, reinecke and beauty(?). I've had them for 3 years. They flower every year, and each year the flowers dry up and fall off. They look very similar to persimmon flowers (I believe they are related). I know some plants have male flowers, but as I have grafted plants the source material should be able to bear fruit.

I'm at a loss at this point and am thinking of replacing the trees or topworking them. It would be a shame to sacrifice 2 great looking trees, but after 3 years and with no fruit to show for it, I'm hard pressed to keep these when they should have fruited within a year.

Am I missing anything? Doing something wrong?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: first time mango owner, need help
« on: July 22, 2020, 01:44:25 AM »

Your tree is pushing out new growth from multiple buds, but it looks like the branches will be weak. The buds are all erupting from the joint. You may be better off cutting just below that area so that the buds are staggered.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Haas and Haas Carmen
« on: July 22, 2020, 01:29:01 AM »
The different season may be either from differences in climate or it may be one of the successive flowerings. My tree flowers 2 to 3 times per year, and it's hard to tell which group the fruit comes from.

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