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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Question on Kishu mandarins
« on: December 13, 2020, 10:55:45 PM »
Mine is on 2nd year fruiting, loads up very well, easy to peal, sweet, insipid and tasteless, lacking acid, like it's watered down in a sense.  I still eat 'em and enjoy what I can.

Good summary Brad.  That all tracks with what I'm getting here, except the Sir Prize seems to be dropping the 7-8 month timeframe rather than the 10-12 -- last one (of five) fell yesterday.  I'll keep notes on the remaining trees: LH, Holiday, and Pinkerton.  I'm most excited about the Pinkerton, 2nd most the Lamb-Hass.  Its so interesting to see the difference in behavior between these five young tress.

So far, I have to say this Expandable Container for Side-Yard Avocado Project has been a success.  Plenty of bumps along the way, but it's unequivocally been successful.  Expert advice from folks like you and Mark has certainly been a great help.

Thanks, Naysen

I dont know why the stewarts would turn that way.  May be from extreme temperatures or some other environmental factor.  If the tree seems in good h!ealth otherwise its probably not a nutritional issue.  The guy greg alder might have ideas, he knows a lot about avocados.  Maybe he will read this or if I talk to him soon Ill tell him read your post. 

The sir prize are ready in march and april here (12 months after flower) and lamb is ready July-Novemwber here (15+ months after flower)

You have mail.
That mail was for Brad, right Mark?  I have no mail.

Yeah, just double-checked my sanity and all this fruit did set earlier this year in the late-April early May timeframe.  So I guess that's record pace to get from fruit set to ripe and dropping -- for an Avocado.  There has to be a price to pay for that expediency.

The sir prize are ready in march and april here (12 months after flower) and lamb is ready July-Novemwber here (15+ months after flower)

Hi Brad, just seeing this now.  So it sounds like in a way these fruit which set less than a year ago should have been hanging much longer.  Unless I'm totally losing track of time, I think the trees flowered and set fruit back earlier this year in the Spring.  Now they dropping.  Well, they are very tasty anyway, but that wood crap inside is no fun to spit out.  I need to double check my blog entries here to make sure I didn't just miss 12 months.  I would certainly love to hear if any of your pals can fix what the condition is there.  The trees seem quite healthy and happy through the Summer/Fall.  I hope that stays true through Winter.  The Lamb-HASS, Holiday, and Pinkerton all have yet to show any color and are rock solid with no fruit drop, yet.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: November 23, 2020, 05:29:12 PM »
Heres a pic of the avocados in season here.  Mexicola grande on top and lamb hass on bottom.  The lambs are done and the mexicolas are coming in.  All the full mexican avocados ripen too fast and drop off the tree here.  These do it too.  They crack at the top like other Mexican avocados too.  Taste is OK.  Nothing spectacular, the lambs are better but take 9 months longer to get ripe.

Nice size at least compared to regular mexicola and stewart.  These are way larger.  I haven't noticed any off flavor in them either.  It seems like the best Mexican avocado I've tried.

We also ate the last reed of the year the other day.  Was an oil bomb

Hi Brad, this is really good info for reference.  On the Stewart front, I just got fruit drop (all 3 of 3 fruit) on the tree I am documenting in my Expandable container side-yard project blog here:

The fruit had a problem, and I'd be interested in your assessment.  If you have a chance, could you read the post and let me know what you think?  It's also interesting that my Stewart fruit is dropping 1-2 months after yours here in Sacramento valley.  Maybe the in ground vs. container?  Maturity?  My more mature in ground Mexicola dropped fruit in Sept/Oct.


Oh, I forgot to state it... in the first couple picks of Stewart, they are the ones on the South of the photo.  There are also three LARGE store bought Hass? for comparison.  Sorry for the lack of clarity with that first post.

I'm just starting to get fruit drop on a couple of the side-yard project Avocado trees.  I wanted to share it.  First we have the Stewart that ended up with three large fruit to mature (and one runt).  Two fruit dropped yesterday, 11/22/20, and then the 3rd today a day later.  I've cut into one of the fruit and it had this woody inner-layer that was inedible and kind of surrounded the flesh like an interstitial, half-developed shell or inner-peel/skin.  Bummer.  I'm hoping the others aren't the same.  Anyone know why this fruit came out this way and what it could mean; what I can do to fight it next year?  I ended up squeezing out maybe 40% of the avocado using finger and thumbs to make some OK guac.  The taste was ok -- and better I think than the Mexicola from my more mature trees that dropped a couple months back.

These three avocados dropped today, 11/23/20, and are from a Sir Prize tree.  The tree has just 2 more fruit on it, which I expect will drop any time now.  The remaining trees include a fairly well loaded Lamb-Hass with a lot of small-ish fruit, a Holiday with a singular Large fruit, and then the Pinkerton that is loaded with over 25 medium size, elongated fruit.  No idea when these three remaining trees will start to drop fruit, but all still seem hard and green in color.  Any input/insight will be appreciated, as these trees are now fruiting and harvesting for the first time.

I hope all of you are seeing great harvests this season.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus 2020 (potted)
« on: November 10, 2020, 11:17:11 AM »
Oliver, the typical advice is to remove any fruitlets from the citrus plan in its first year(s).  This is to help promote energy into roots and structural growth, I believe.  I don't think that one flower is of much concern.  I, personally, would just leave it to see if any pollination occurs (any other flowers around?)  Good luck. Looks like you have some kind of indoor setup there.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus 2020 (potted)
« on: November 09, 2020, 11:57:20 AM »
Containerman, my Kishu are just about there.  Maybe another 2-weeks they'll be ready.

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus 2020 (potted)
« on: November 08, 2020, 05:24:36 PM »
The finger limes are ripe.  The winter navals all appear to be within weeks of start of harvest.  I'm excited for the bounty.

Citrus General Discussion / Citrus 2020 (potted)
« on: November 08, 2020, 12:53:50 PM »
My citrus are all blushing orange what feels like earlier than usual this year (9B Sacramento area).  How's everyone else's crops progressing this season?

Mark, enviable production as usual.  I might have the first of three Mexicola avocados to survive on my ~8-year old tree to try soon.  I'm can only image how delicious those fresh salads must be in your house.

Ah, gotcha. 

Mark, thanks for sharing the root-balls.  How did the two plants perform in comparison?  Or what were they?  Peachy mangos.  What combination from the gods is this?

Looks like a winner.  Wishing a delicious treat with that one.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: August 19, 2020, 05:23:21 PM »
Banana looks fine, it looks a bit elevated, havent seen that before really.  Maybe the soil is really shallow.  It looks like it needs mulch around the corm. 
Thanks for getting back on my question Brad.  The soil isn't shallow, but it's quite rocky/stony.  I believe the reason it's built up on its corm like a medieval fortress could be all the years I've been cutting it back only to have it grow out new growth within a day or week.  So it's like a scar that keeps scaring over itself.  There's plenty of detritus around from the cutting I could throw around the corm fortress.

Today we tried a holiday avocado that dropped early.  A mouse had nibbled on it and it dropped but ripened ok.  The oil content is good but still has room for improvement.  The taste is like reed, not much nuty flavor, just buttery and straight forward mild flavor.  The fruit has potential.  Overall, Im still not that impressed with the tree and fruit.  Theres others like reed that taste similar but grow better.  The huge size isn't great either.  Its a bit much even for a family of 4.

My holiday on the side-yard is the worst of five trees planted out together at the same time and under similar conditions.  The tree is weepy, and it held just one avocado where the others are doing much better this year.  Definitely agree based on minimal experience that Holiday seems to be a loser variety.  Maybe it would do well in a container (relative to alternative varieties).

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: August 18, 2020, 05:28:05 PM »
Brad, what do you think?  Did I do a good job prepping that banana tree for success going forward?  Would you recommend removing all but a single shoot, or leave the two (with a baby for backup) as I Have it now?
Thanks man!

Oh, also, if you're not in an agricultural type of situation, like where your neighbors have to see the trees, then the surround kind of dusts around the area being exposed.  A lot of my trees have mulch around their ground area, and the surround dusted the mulch in an unsightly way as well.  If you're farming a hillside or acre somewhere that no one gets to see, it's totally fine.  I think the product is very innovative and works well (and as advertised), it's just messy.  It also holds to the tree even after light to medium (and successive) rain.

Screw the make work.  Spray leaves and all.

Mark, I purchased like $100 or more of surround and gave it a try last year.  Frankly, it took the joy of growing out of the process for me.  What I mean is that irritating white dust covering all the foliage turned my trees into something out of post-fallout Cormac McCarthy novel.  Even touching the stuff was annoying.  So, I've taken to methodically "painting" the stuff on the exposed tree branches and trunks and leaving the foliage alone.  What's the point in growing anything if I take no joy out of being among the plants.  At least, that's where I've landed for the time-being.

Oh yes they did.  It hit at around 1am "night" before last.  Went on for a couple hours.  Pretty intense stuff for our region.  I didn't get wind of any rain.  Maybe it happened some places.

Good point.  It's not an easy proposition. I'll try to see what I can do.  But then that wind causes trouble.  Shade cloth often causes more trouble than its worth with my half-a**ed application/effort.  Thanks.

Mark, rain? Haven't heard of it, seen it, don't remember what it is... But I must say we are blessed not to have the grasshoppers roving the land.  I hate those things with an unreasonable passion.  We were doing the 100F+ thing for months too, but it ratcheted up to more like 110F+ recently.  You are correct, it will pass in time.  I just hope the power stays on.  Gotta keep those wine coolers running.

This past couple days here in Sac Valley have been scorching hot.  The trees are starting to burn.  The Lamb Hass has shown the worst of the bunch.  It's dropped several half mature size avocado fruit as a result.  I guess it's not well adapted to the intense heat, or maybe its proximity to our air conditioning unit's exhaust has something to do with the increased burning of new leaves.

Here are some pics...

Intense heat spikes:

Lamb-Hass now under a shade cloth (after taking damage):

Some damage on Sir Prize:

So far, Pinkerton is doing well, and holding on to the most and best looking fruit:

Pom's not happy:

Chickens aren't happy:

Tomatoes et al. are crispy too:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado thread
« on: August 17, 2020, 09:51:14 PM »
Sorry to ask a question (on the wrong thread none the less), and ditch for a couple weeks.  I have been out of town and then hard at work hacking away at those banana roots.  I finished up yesterday in the 113F heat.  I think I've got the tree in shape, but I'd love for any keen eyes to review the pics and make suggestions on what more to do.  The goal is (1) to keep the tree in check; (2) focus its energy into one or two main branches; and (3) maybe produce a viable fruit or two.  Thanks all.

Here's what I had after an hour of hacking at it at the start:

And this is where I left off after finishing up yesterday evening:

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