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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Trip Report!! Jack and the BeanStalk
« on: May 13, 2022, 10:10:15 AM »
East Coast-
Jack and the BeanStalk
The property
This a small property with a large variety of tropical and subtropicals. They also carry some citrus.
The staff
The staff is was two ladies  and an older gentleman who spoke "ok" English so with my "ok" spanish I was able to converse.
The website
It's pretty basic and sparse. They seem to make an effort to update their inventory but you have to download a pdf so it is not up to the minute accurate but at least they are trying. They also respond to emails so that is plus.
Prices
Prices there are on par with with the upper end of Florida prices and I would say maybe a little pricey; Almost like West cost pricing a few years ago. 3 gals for >$45 is becoming the new normal. Theirs were $55 and small. When I was there most of their inventory was above 7 gal and up especially for what I call hard to find. Caimito's were in short supply and what they had looked healthy but was in 15 gals for $190 and only the greens were available. They had some healthy wax jambus in 7 gal but they were $90. I still bought two but it stung. Yes, the inflation has hit and it sucks.
Quality
On par with most other sellers in terms of size and health. Some of the plants were a little burned. I suspect this is because they don't have everything under shade cloth.

I met the owner and he was a nice guy. Even though his prices were a little high IMO he did cut me a deal so I basically got one 3gal plant for free.  I heard about the place from a youtuber named Paul. This guy is a great resource for places to go but he is single-handedly running down the inventory for everything  :D :D :D The owner said a few days after Paul posted the video he was swamped. It's about 20 min off of I-95 Near West Palm beach if I am not mistaken.

BTW
I was at Lara's bright and early. The gate was closed 10 minutes after opening time so I called. Julian answered the phone. After a short convo I found out he was sold out of almost everything. I was looking for: caimitos, custard apples.... Hopefully he will have more inventory soon. Call before you travel

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red Ruby Longan
« on: May 12, 2022, 03:20:07 PM »
Where are you guys getting your plants? I have not seen either Florida Honey or Sakip in the trade.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Persimmon dormancy
« on: May 12, 2022, 03:17:16 PM »
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In the past i had bought a chocolate variety persimmon bareroot. Planted it in a pot and waited prolly till the middle to end of june for it to wake up. I remember my other persimmons were leafed out when i had enough and threw the bareroot chocolate . I also remember that the stem was probably still green just above the graft when i disposed it.


Update, the coffee cake which I cut back (to a stick), now leafing out. The chocolate which initially look more promising (only trim 1/2 branches), shows no sign of leafing. Maybe chocolate variety doesn't take transplant well?

Alekhan. In the future I would recommend purchasing plants from someone local or in your state. Just fruits and exotics so far has not done wrong. I used to buy a lot of bare root stuff. The anxiety waiting to see if I bought a dud was just too much ;D ;D

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I'm not commercial so.. it's a cost but it doesn't really hit my bottom line too hard.

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I have persimmon patch I started a few years ago. It has (2 Nikita's Gift, 2 Rossyanka hybrids) Edible Landscaping,  4 Texas persimmon,  (1 very young prairie star, 1 very young prairie gem)One Greenworld, (1 Ruby, 1 Yates, 1 Prok)Edible Landscaping, (1 Suruga and 1 Maekawa-Jiro) Just Fruits and Exotics . So far only the Texas and the Hybrids have flowered, Nothing has set fruit. Both of the Rossyankas seem to have less vigor and have some weird blackening on the leaf tips this year.

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That's great!!! I have a Peruvian apple catus. I tried and tried with the dragons but couldn't make them work.

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So what did they look like before the push?

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Are you fertilizing it. Sometimes over fertilizing is the cause of leaf drop.

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Are they just chlorotic? Hit them with a little iron and see if they perk up.

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Don't sweat it friend. It is all part of the journey. I have killed some of every type of tree that is popular MULTIPLE TIMES :( :) >:( ;D :o ???!!!! Take the hardships as a learning opportunity and document your successes so you and other can benefit in the future.
BTW Did I ever tell you guys about how I wiped out Nishigawa avocado? I had bought some stuff whose name I don't remember and it purported to raise brix. So, I mixed it up and did a foliar feed on my plants. I go in the house and think nothing about it. The next day I came outside and I was shocked. Cherry of the Rio grande:Normal. Barbados Cherry:Normal. Muntingia: a little tip burn. Nishigawa: looked like someone hit it with a flame thrower. I have seen stuff defoliate a plant but I never seen anything actually BURN THE TRUNK. Damn! I wish I could remember the name of that snake oil. Paid $20 and I killed about $200 worth of trees. ;D ;D ;D ;D Live and you learn.

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Don't sweat it friend. It is all part of the journey. I have killed some of every type of tree that is popular MULTIPLE TIMES :( :) >:( ;D :o ???!!!! Take the hardships as a learning opportunity and document your successes so you and other can benefit in the future.

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What kind of paint are you using? I'm about to transfer mine to my outside greenhouse.I'm hoping they will like the lower humidity and harden off. I will posting some pics at the beginning of next week if all goes as planned.

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I really want a Wampee but only a sweet variety. I don't like sour fruit. That's why I really don't like most kumquats.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Contest: Largest Loquat Fruit for 2022
« on: April 25, 2022, 05:21:08 PM »
Yes, the China White seems to be a vigorous grower and has large fruit set. I took a few photos today. The fruits are all over ripe now (plan to get seeds). This is from 2 grafted branches that are 2 years old.




I have never seen that cultivar in the trade. How would you describe the taste?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Brazilian Sweet Lemon
« on: April 19, 2022, 04:18:34 PM »
I'd say buy it and try it. The New Zealand is sweet but not lemon flavored as much as it is lime flavored in my opinion. That fruit looks like a lemon so may be it tastws mire like a lemon.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: April 19, 2022, 04:09:00 PM »


Hereís my best looking tree an hai. My black crystal new shoots died back probably cause of overwatering. Not sure if itís going to regrow or die. As long as I have one tree so I can graft scions on then Iím happy. Though it would be nice if the male and at least 1 female made it. The male and the biqi are a little behind but are growing also.
Yeah Jabo. I'm gonna have to call B.S. on that photo. Firstly, it is clearly in violation of section 3 of the North American  Fruits and Foods act. Secondly, it looks like it may have some biological problems. As a duely sworn member of the Northy Carolina division of the National Yang Mei Inspection  and Evaluation Bureau, I'm going to have to sieze that plant. Nothing personal. I'm just doing my job. ;D
None of yours made it?  You can be the first person in NC to fruit this - donít give away your head start.  :P

Iím sure others are having success. Letís see some pictures!
All my buds are small. I don't want you guys making fun if me :-[

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: April 19, 2022, 02:27:06 PM »


Hereís my best looking tree an hai. My black crystal new shoots died back probably cause of overwatering. Not sure if itís going to regrow or die. As long as I have one tree so I can graft scions on then Iím happy. Though it would be nice if the male and at least 1 female made it. The male and the biqi are a little behind but are growing also.
Yeah Jabo. I'm gonna have to call B.S. on that photo. Firstly, it is clearly in violation of section 3 of the North American  Fruits and Foods act. Secondly, it looks like it may have some biological problems. As a duely sworn member of the Northy Carolina division of the National Yang Mei Inspection  and Evaluation Bureau, I'm going to have to sieze that plant. Nothing personal. I'm just doing my job. ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: April 19, 2022, 02:25:03 PM »


Hereís my best looking tree an hai. My black crystal new shoots died back probably cause of overwatering. Not sure if itís going to regrow or die. As long as I have one tree so I can graft scions on then Iím happy. Though it would be nice if the male and at least 1 female made it. The male and the biqi are a little behind but are growing also.
Yeah Jabo. I'm gonna have to call B.S. on that photo. Firstly, it is clearly in violation of section 3 of the North American  Fruits and Foods act. Secondly, it looks like it may have some biological problems. As a duely sworn member of the Northy Carolina division of the National Yang Mei Inspection  and Evaluation Bureau, I'm going to have to sieze that plant. Nothing personal. I'm just doing my job.

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Buddy vs just humidity or buddy +humidity? I'm starting to get some wake up after giving mine some sun and a shot of this Liquinox 0-2-0 Start with Vitamin B-1. Was it the food? Maybe. I wish I had did a soak on arrival. I have not used any tape. The question would be what caused the push if I see buds after tape application?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Monster Rambutans
« on: April 10, 2022, 07:48:41 PM »
What cultivar are those? To be honest I have never seen a Rambutan tree for sale in the States. I'm not saying they are not for sale but I have never seen the trees for sale in any of the place I have went.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Monster Rambutans
« on: April 10, 2022, 07:27:36 AM »
Rambutan season has almost finished here. Been feasting on loads of rambutan most days for the last month or so. We have 3 trees, all around twenty five years old. Interestingly, one tree produces particularly large fruits. They taste great and I have certainly enjoyed the crop, as have the flying foxes and cockatoos, haha.



Ok. So let me get this straight. You're feasting on rambutans and you haven't sent us any? Come on man. Put some of those trees in a box and send it to us. I'll even help with the shipping ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Yangmei (Morella/Myrica rubra) thread
« on: April 09, 2022, 02:23:57 PM »
I want discuss something here that Iíve been hesitant to bring up.

With all these trees imported from China, we should assume they are all infected with RKN. Wether or not you actually see the galls, it is best to treat your trees as if they do have RKN.

RKN is a Serious issue and Iím absolutely shocked how lightly people are taking this. Iíve spoken with many forum members and many people did not treat their trees even though this last order, and probably all the other orders, had RKN.

RKN is a serious threat to our gardens. Once you get RKN established in your soil, they are difficult if not impossible to completely get rid of them.

They stunt or kill vegetables and can decrease productivity in woody plants.

Iím not telling people not to purchase trees from China but if you do purchase trees from China, treat them for RKN regardless if you see galls or not. Even if there is not a single gall detected out of 500-1000 trees, I would still treat them. RKN is microscopic and they may not have formed galls yet and there can also be RKN eggs.

Nursery owners are well aware of the horrible issues associated with RKN and some states even have restrictions that nurseries that ship plants must grow their plants raised off the ground.

I have a friend that has RKN in their yard and his tomatoes and fig was severely infected. His tomatoes looked horribly stunted and his fig tree was growing a lot slower than it should be. He pulled up one of his tomatoes to show me the roots and it looked like the same galls from the Yangmei trees from the last group buy.

With the popularity of Yangmei, I donít want RKN spreading in all of our gardens. Iím not saying donít buy the trees, just please treat your trees just in case. Any soil, water or tools that have come into contact with infected trees should be thoroughly disinfected or discarded in the case of soil.

RKN is absolutely horrible and you may not notice symptoms until many years down the road when the RKN population has thoroughly established and by that time, itís probably too late to eliminate them. An ounce of prevention is worth more than a pound of cure.

Simon
Ok, Simon.
What do you think the protocol should be when receiving plants?
For example:
Upon bare rooted plant arrival soak root in dilute solution of B1 root activator for 2 hours. Dispose of soaking solution in Municipal sewer after adding 10% by volume bleach.  Pot plants in pre-moistened soil followed by soil drench of anti-nematode solution making sure to use drip trays to contain overflow. Water as needed until bud break then apply anti-nematode soil drench.   

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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Spring flowering loquats
« on: April 07, 2022, 06:34:43 PM »
I know I'm late on this one but Just Fruits and Exotics has Novak.

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Plus one. I have been looking for this cultivar. Until I get one I'm eating Miracle fruit!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

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