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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia neonitida, now recognized as Eugenia selloi
« on: April 29, 2014, 06:32:27 PM »
A bit more well known (commercially cultivated even) is Annona diversifolia, the illama, which is a synonym of Annona macroprophyllata. I cannot understand why you so-called plant lovers insist on calling plants by their synonyms. ;)

The best source for up-to-date plant names is theplantlist.org

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Available seeds of rare species of the Amazon region.
« on: April 26, 2014, 02:12:17 PM »
Seeds arrived today, all in excellent condition, Eugenia longiracemosa arrived alive and germinated!




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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Selling - RARE Duguetia staudtii (Cameroon)
« on: April 20, 2014, 12:00:31 AM »
From what I have heard from Wirsiy the collectors have been so far unable to taste the fruit, but JSTOR claims the fruit is “palatable to monkeys,” not giving me high hopes for the flavor. Isolona, there is much debate on whether or not the Aftican duguetias should be contained in in a seperate genus, pachypodanthium, although there is only one accepted species (p. staudtii is currently a synonym of d. staudtii). Continental drift is probably right, the species are different enough from there brazilian counterparts to show for several million years of seperation. As for the Brazilian species in African rainforests… it is most likely that they are introduced species rather than native. BTW, the seeds are said to have high germination, usually above 85% after a period of two (or so) weeks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mammea americana
« on: April 15, 2014, 11:46:52 AM »
I bought seeds last year (July). It sprouted in october, and so has proven to be a pretty hardy plant, surving the stress of moving twice, a hard frost, months in the semidarkness of a laundry room, a four inch pot that was highly drought susceptible to drought. Unavoidable, but completely irrespobsible. Until recently it was unable to produce leaves, so when the cotyledons began to shrivel I feared I would lose the seedling, but it surprised me with it's first leaf.


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Hedvekuli: a rare, vining annona endemic to India
« on: April 14, 2014, 12:54:46 PM »
Roy, you are welcome. I had germination in just 72 hours, the fastest I have had for any plant. Jet, I payed Roy 25 USD, for 140 hedvekuli seeds plus a number of others.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona Montana
« on: April 12, 2014, 07:47:51 AM »
Quote from: Coconut on September 06, 2013, 02:56:44 AM
…strain of annona muricata that has annona montana in its bloodline, i am five years away from stabilizing it as annona muricata x montana. The tree display all the cold freeze & frost tolerance of Tallahassee florida, but the fruit is quit tasty does look like its parents but have quality of both…I have spend two decades looking for a montana that taste good but to no avail until a few month ago.  This Tampa annona montana has the most superior taste of its class. So I have to get budwood or seeds from this old eccentric, to cross with the mossad [above montana x muricata strain]…

It appears forum member “coconut” of Boca Raton has found a somewhat tasty strain of a. montana, we'll see if he can find some means of propagating it.

Quote from: fruitlovers on April 12, 2014, 02:16:31 AM
Sorry to break it to you all, but most mountain soursops taste about as good as pond apple = soapy.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fissistigma verrucosum, a rare annonaceae from Assam & Meghalaya
« on: April 10, 2014, 01:02:46 PM »
Melodorum leichhardtii is very similar, even if it is of a seperate genus. According to helton (I think), the Australian zig-zag vine, m. leichhardtii, has a “delightful orange sherbert flavor,” I hope this applies to the Indian zig-zag vine. I recieved one hundred and forty seeds from Roy, many germinated with 73 hours of planting, with no special treatment.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / A race to breach the soil!
« on: April 06, 2014, 10:28:52 PM »
On March 10th, I planted 140 hedvekuli (fissistigma verrucosum) seeds, with no special treatment whatsoever. 73 hours later, ten seedlings with one-inch taproots where poking their way free of the soil. This got me wondering, what is the fastest you have ever germinated and sprouted your tropical fruit seeds? I have included some of my records:

1. Fissistigma Verrucosum (hedvekuli)
Family: Annonaceae
Seed Seller: Roy-Ind
3 days to sprout (7.2% germ on first day)

2. Ceiba Speciosum (silk floss tree)
Family: Malvaceae
Seed Seller: Trade Winds Fruit
5 days to sprout (12.5% germ on first day)

3. Parmentiera Aculeata (guajilote)
Family: Bignoniaceae
Seed Seller: Trade Winds Fruit
7 days to sprout (100% germ on first day)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Guide to USDA Permits - Nothing in here yet - Work in Progress
« on: March 26, 2014, 03:43:23 PM »
I have some questions regarding the importation of threatened species. First off, near threatened and vulnerable plant seeds be imported by the standard Small Lots of Seeds permit? Second, can critically endangered species by imported with the Endangered Plant permit?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fissistigma verrucosum Syn. Melodorum verrucosum
« on: January 23, 2014, 09:01:26 PM »
I sent you a PM on the seeds. ;) I have not heard of plants of this family growing as lianas, are there other annonaceae species/genera of lianas? You say the flowers bloom in march, yet the fruit do not ripen until January, how large are the berries, and do they grow in clusters like other annonaceae?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Junglesop (Annondium mannii) About time we dedicated a thread to this one!
« on: January 21, 2014, 06:34:33 PM »
Ditto: oh mannii!
My little junglesop seed seems to have died, my heating table was unplugged for a few weeks without me noticing, the temprature variation killed many of my seeds, and I cannot find any signs of life with the junglesop, is there any hope? The endosperm was showing white through the edge of the seedcoat, but there is nothing currently visible. Does anybody have a spare seedling ::)?

Jackson, where will you be getting scions from? Remember that while Uganda specimens are said to be excellent, Cameroon selections are terrible and regarded as “cattle fodder.”

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Flying Fox Fruits nursery, a source for rare seeds, scions, fruits, and plants
« on: January 21, 2014, 04:45:50 PM »
Good luck, Adam! I'll write a review when I recieve my seeds, thank you for your time, and excellent service! ;) ;D

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Tropical Fruit Online Library / A traveler's guide to durian season
« on: January 18, 2014, 09:35:42 PM »
From the Year of the Durian's newsletter:

http://gallery.mailchimp.com/5bdd943b7a13915c43809e080/files/A_Traveler_s_Guide_to_Durian_Season_1.pdf

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Monotypic Taxa (a subject of great interest)
« on: January 03, 2014, 08:27:14 AM »
http://www.eattheweeds.com/only-plant-in-its-genus/

Quote from: Jackson on January 02, 2014, 10:16:10 PM
The fruit Zabala, or Lardizabala biternata, is the sole species in the whole Lardizabalaceae family!

As mangomike said, lardizabalaceae contains several genera, though the most notable is probably akebia, the chocolate vine genus, with edible fruit. However, lardizabala, is a monotypic genus, and lardizabala biternata does, in fact, bear edible fruit.
It seems we have forgotten that quince (cydonia oblonga) is the sole member of the genus cydonia.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Closest garcinia to purple mangosteen I can grow in subtropics?
« on: January 02, 2014, 11:22:02 AM »
Quote from: adiel on January 02, 2014, 08:29:05 AM
How about Garcinia Limoncillo (Luc's Limoncillo)?  :)

I hear Luc's Limoncillo (garcinia vleerackerii) is one of the hardiest garcinias, and should grow well in a subtropical climate, if you posted what zone you were in that would certainly help.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: zabala fruit
« on: January 01, 2014, 06:59:11 PM »
It appears it is not the only notable member from Lardizabalaceae, are there any active members growing chocolate vine (akebia quinata)? A plant producing edible blue-violet pods that split open when ripe:

http://kyotofoodie.com/japanese-fruit-akebi/

The author says it is not exactly flavorful, and has a texture akin to that of a lychee, I wonder if this description is applicable to the coguil?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical Fruit Forum Logo
« on: December 30, 2013, 12:48:10 PM »
Spent most of the morning and last night working on this, please tell me it wasn't a waste of time!



It actually has nothing to do with Plantlover's sketch, and is based on an earlier sketch of a papaya tree with letters for the leaves:


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A new annona variety from Brazil?
« on: December 28, 2013, 06:24:15 PM »
Interesting, the Cerrado plant annona cornifolia's flowers are also slightly warmer than the surrounding temprature as to attract pollinators. I wish I could judge size, the fruit can't be more than a couple inches across, but it is very large compared to the stalks/leaves.

Quote from: thao on December 28, 2013, 05:56:28 PM
Look how small it is and has flowered. Though must be due to a slow growing habit?

There are very few annonas with this growth habit, the plant is rhizomatous, and grows several stalks from large, woody rhizome, this plant is most likely to die back during the dry season, as with annona stenophylla.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona acuminata: Albino Annona?
« on: December 28, 2013, 02:07:44 PM »
Please remember some annonas are unable to hybridize, I don't know anything about a. nutans, but if I am correct a. cornifolia, when the flowers are pollinated with other annonas, will abort the pollen. There was a thread about how to overcome the pollination issues such as this, but one must also take into account chromasome count and flowering season when using this method (irritating the ovary with concrete), paired with the fact the parent plant's characteristics would show up in unpredictable ways, so the odds of the pigments appearing in the skin/flesh for a pink fruit is very low. But it would be, as you said, be a great experiment, definitely worth it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical Fruit Forum Logo
« on: December 28, 2013, 01:51:55 PM »
Quote from: vipinrl on December 28, 2013, 08:46:43 AM
Hi All,

I have an idea:
A logo with,
*. The 'sun' (and a palm in background if necessary) - representing the tropicals
*. A fruit split open with germinating seed inside - representing a fruit tree seedling
*. The fruit is on hands - representing us , the growers
*. 'www.TropicalFruitForum.com' written beneath the image

Excellent idea! Here, I drew a scetch for it, is this sort of what you were thinking?



The fruit is a fantastical annona, loosly based on biriba (annona mucosa) and annona cornifolia. I had a bit of trouble with the hand scetch if you know what I mean :o :P.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona acuminata: Albino Annona?
« on: December 28, 2013, 08:14:24 AM »
I doubt any members are growing this fruit, but a few are growing the Panamanian a. hayesii, which is stark-white fruited, and with seeds of a light cream coloring. Back to acuminata, judging by the thin, mammilate skin, orange flesh, and origin, I can guess prematurely that this is closely related to a. cornifolia, although a. cornifolia lacks the acuminate leaves, where a. spraguei and a. hayesii both produce similar leaves, but different fruit/flower, yet are closely related.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical Fruit Forum Logo
« on: December 28, 2013, 07:53:15 AM »
I did a quick scetch last night, sorry for the mangosteen theme ;):



And I really don't understand why the background became so gray, either :o.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dream
« on: December 27, 2013, 01:36:29 PM »
Mostly my tropical fruit dreams are of mature, fruiting plants, and seeds I recently planted germinating. It just comes down to patience for me. Other dreams include:

a) planting a tropical jungle outdoors in TN

b) developing nonsensical large-fruited trees

c) meeting forum members and their farms

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Garcinia forbesii and a brumby Russell's sweet
« on: December 26, 2013, 08:07:52 AM »
According to Jim West the skin is palatable, but still sour, have you tryed it? How long did this plant take to fruit?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Annona Hayessii
« on: December 26, 2013, 08:03:28 AM »
I did not buy seeds, but would like a plant, I don't have anything to trade, so perhaps a sale?

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