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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit haul in Da Nang
« on: March 23, 2023, 06:56:56 AM »
I can confirm that I was finding cat chu mango at the markets. Went to a super market today that had mangoes labeled ďcat chuĒ - tried some , and they definitely taste different than Ďcac.í They might have some similar genetics but I can say with confidence that these are different from one another. Sure there can be some variability depending on where they are grown but to me the differences are too far apart to think that they are the same. The fruit shape is different and the taste is way different.



The riper ones from an open market, the green ones being from the super market. Can tell they are the same


Heres a Cac from tropical acres that shows the difference in shape, fatter mango and less elongated. Flesh is more pale yellow



Canít really assume what someone says is correct until you go and find out for yourself. Varietal names are repeatably mislabeled and this seems to be a prime example.

Now for the taste test on this nice yellow fleshed durian








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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit haul in Da Nang
« on: March 22, 2023, 03:40:09 AM »
Hey Peter, glad to hear youíve got maprang growing now. these small mangoes overall have a different taste than Manila, similar but they have a stronger flavor. Also more orange on the exterior, and more fragrant. In Hawaii the old seedling trees produce a similar fruit, at least in size but they are stringy and have a bigger seed. These are fiberless. Now have been to the 3 main markets in Da Nang and I still have yet to find anything that resembles what we know as Cac in the states. Itís leads me to believe that what people think is Cac is actually something totally different.










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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit haul in Da Nang
« on: March 21, 2023, 04:54:38 AM »
Yes. Keep in mind these are considered out of season mangosteen, the people with them can charge a premium. I found someone selling durian, already packaged for around $10 for 1.5 lb of fruit, but again out of season prices

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Fruit haul in Da Nang
« on: March 21, 2023, 12:22:38 AM »
The maprang are extremely good. Exceeded my expectations. The mangoes on the bottom left have the thinnest seed Iíve ever encountered and the taste is phenomenal. Now I know why they were pricier than all the other varieties. The mangosteens were pricy at about $8 per kg. The longans are just ok. Still not sure if any of these are Cat chu mangoes. They all seem different than what we know as Cac. Sugar apple 8/10. very content with what Iím finding here in Da Nang









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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit ID Big Island Hawaii
« on: March 13, 2023, 02:42:27 PM »
Probably an araca-boi, sour but can make a nice drink if you add enough sugar / cane juice

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Noticed there is a second edition as well.

Some info on the author-

Anthony Lamb was born in Sri Lanka, where he had his early schooling and found his interest in the diversity of wildlife. He completed his secondary education in England and graduated in Agriculture from Cambridge University, followed by a Diploma in Tropical Agriculture at the University of the West Indies in Trinidad, before joining the Department of Agriculture in Sabah in 1962. From 1967 to 1977 he was in charge of the Ulu Dusun Agricultural Research Station, where he started taking an interest in the great diversity of wild edible fruits in the forests there, aided by botanists in the Forest Research Centre at Sepilok.

In 1987, he married Anthea Phillipps, at the time ecologist with the Sabah Parks, and with her and Dr George Argent and Sheila Collenette jointly produced a book on the Rhododendrons of Sabah, followed by Pitcher Plants of Borneo with Anthea Phillipps and Chien Lee. More recently, he has been involved in a 2-volume edition of the Orchids of Mount Kinabalu, A Guide to the Gingers of Borneo, a co-author in a monograph of Bulbophyllum of Borneo with Jaap Vermeulen and Peter OíByrne, and in 2016, A Guide to Hoyas of Borneo with Michele Rodda.

He officially retired from the Department of Agriculture in 1992, but then took on the task of developing the Agricultural Park in Tenom until 2001 when it was opened. Since retirement he has worked in voluntary roles with the Forest Research Centre Sabah and its Herbarium. He has now retired in Kota Kinabalu with his wife and has a daughter and son.

https://www.nhpborneo.com/publication-author/anthony-lamb/ 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangoes of Vietnam
« on: March 02, 2023, 12:28:07 PM »
Planning to head to Vietnam in a few weeks.  Should be the beginning of mango season. Saw a YouTube video where they must have had 8-10 varieties of mango in a super market. This image is of a mango store in Da Nang. Iíll have to keep an eye out for cat chu as Cac is one of my fav. I will give an update once Iím there. Let me know if anyone has any recommendations or places worth checking out


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« on: February 25, 2023, 08:09:19 AM »
A weird or ugly looking durian, discoloration of the skin etc usually indicates a bad durian from my experience. A good durian will be glowing sort of speak when they are really prime. Skin color etc can definitely indicate whether or not itís past itís prime. If a durian is being sold as low grade anywhere in Malaysia you better bet most of them are low grade. Of course a vendor would never sell you something saying itís low grade, they are trying to make a sale. Kampongs can be very good but again youíd want to pick one that has a nice look to it. The best durians Iíve eaten also have a nice look to the exterior so I would not say that outer appearance doesnít matter, with durian, it most certainly matters.

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This species must vary a lot depending on the variety. I tried m. caesia in Borneo and it wasnít anything worth writing about. Iíve heard people rave about this Bali wani mango for years and still have yet to try it, some people even say itís their favorite fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« on: February 06, 2023, 02:08:14 PM »
Isnít Malaysia like a 3 hour flight for you aussies anyway? Good god, just go already

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Durian Season in Hawaii?
« on: February 06, 2023, 02:07:02 PM »
It was likely a COB durian, common in the Philippines. Donít think there is a variety called gob. Lots of junk durians out there people try selling , and sadly that is probably most peoples first experience with it , then they go perpetuate the rumor that durian is gross etc, whereas most people wonít ever get the chance to experience high quality D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Update on my durians
« on: February 03, 2023, 11:49:53 AM »
Kutejensis leaves look different than zibethinus. They are bigger, similar to graveolens

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« on: January 28, 2023, 04:32:09 AM »
Looks like they harvested it too early. $120 for an unripe durian , that is damn near robbery

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Ya that chart looks familiar. This is another good resource Iíve used- https://www.yearofthedurian.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/A-Travelers-Guide-to-Durian-Season-2016.pdf

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You are only going based off all the fruits videos this season? It wasnít a good year for durian this season apparently. Look at his previous videos where heís eating kutenjensis and hybrids. December and January usually are the main seasons on Borneo, starting November in Sabah. There are sometimes smaller seasons in the middle of the year or other times. Based off videos Iíve seen of fruits in Kalimantan, there may be a better variety of jungle fruits compared to the Malaysian side as I never even came across willughbeia species on the Malaysian side, although I know they exist in some of the jungles. Iím not that adventurous. stick to roadside stands and markets. On the Malaysian side, you will find different species of durio too. Itís worth going to Sarawak to experience eating dabai alone.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rollinia
« on: January 25, 2023, 03:14:28 PM »
A guy in Puna told me his rollinia trees would only survive for 12 to 15 years then they slowly start to die. Seems so strange for a tree to only last that long. At least they are pretty quick to fruit.

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What part of Thailand will have maprang? Iím planning to go later this year

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I can almost smell it from here

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Safou edible raw? Dacryodes edulis
« on: January 20, 2023, 09:57:08 AM »
I have not , cassowary but would be interested to try it. Maybe next time I visit Borneo

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Durian Season in Hawaii?
« on: January 20, 2023, 09:56:25 AM »
Your best bet will be Wednesday and Saturday hilo farmers market or Sunday makuíu market. Go early (8am) Also you can go to Pamís warehouse open any day of the week except maybe on market days. 55 furneaux lane.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Safou edible raw? Dacryodes edulis
« on: January 19, 2023, 09:14:24 AM »
No cassowary, Iíve seen what happens to them when they sit out for days and they become wrinkled and dry Iím presuming. They are very firm before the hot water is cooked which leads me to belief they ripen differently than safou. Safou no doubt can ripen naturally, no water necessary. Iím ok with soaking them in a bit of hot water to speed up the ripening process. Seems this is how Malaysians traditionally prepare dabai

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Safou edible raw? Dacryodes edulis
« on: January 18, 2023, 01:29:57 PM »
Safou are good eating. I enjoyed the ones I ate from Peterís. Dabai are slightly better eating ime. For good reason it can easily sell for $10+ per kilo on Borneo. Engkala is good but rivals a good avocado

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: ISO Keledang tree or seeds
« on: January 13, 2023, 06:41:15 AM »
That is why Oscar is a con artist. He has a ton of stuff listed on his website that he never actually has in stock. Surprising to me that many people have probably fallen for his deceiving ways. I know of 2 people in HI who have fruited Keledang. One of them, Steph , who sometimes posts here says itís good , but marang is still better. After reading Mike tís posts before about pruning keledang, it seems it handles a heavy pruning better than marang. Marang is almost impossible to keep small.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Manila mangoes: better in Manila!
« on: January 10, 2023, 08:16:18 AM »
They call this variety Cebu in Davao. Itís the same or very closely related to what we know as ĎPhilippineí mango in the states. Also called carabao mango. Itís the most commonly found mango in the Philippines. They are grown commercially in the Cebu area. They are good but I prefer the Pico variety which has a more orange colored flesh

https://nolisoli.ph/95562/philippine-mango-types/amp/

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