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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Jade Pineapple
« on: May 28, 2014, 03:58:31 PM »
No problem. Sorry for the confusion. His variety is a great tasting pineapple but my only complaint with how he grows them is that he doesn't let them turn yellow / red before picking them. To him if the " eyes" are yellow it's ready. And if its yellow on the skin it's overripe. It may be true with this variety because I haven't had the chance yet to test that  , but with sugar loaf it's best to let the skin turn yellow before harvesting, even letting it crack some is ok. When this is done there is barely any acidity and several pineapples could be eaten without adverse effects

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need Jackfruit experts to weigh in please
« on: May 28, 2014, 03:49:05 PM »
They have a nice size already. sometimes they will abort and put their energy into other fruits. This happens more so to very young fruits from what I've seen. thinning is done sometimes so the plant may put more energy into the other fruits,, from what I've observed this may be of value for certain varieties as the carpels develop more and the flavor even may be sweeter / richer from the bigger fruits. I've had some great ~ 5-10 pound jackfruits etc but the best tasting ones have always been the ~30lb fruits where the flavor is really developed. since its still young I would just let it do its thing and you will see for itself. If it fruits at several different times then that is a bonus ! Enjoy

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Jade Pineapple
« on: May 27, 2014, 07:50:51 PM »
I haven't seen pineapple get Sunburnt really... Dole plants them in big open fields in the valley, full sun. If it is given too much shade it just stunts the plant but it may stay healthy and green otherwise.. To me that plant looks underfed., pineapple are heavy feeders

Quote from: fyliu on April 06, 2014, 01:29:16 AM
If it's the same variety as the fruit that Frankie sells then I can say it's a very nice variety. I don't remember the core but it could just be so soft that I didn't notice it. It's not big but it's very sweet due having to low acid.

His variety is named Meli Kalima (honey cream) and isn't the same as he doesn't sell this particular one he made/selected ... but sells some others

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can I harvest pineapple pups before the pineapple has ripened?
« on: May 25, 2014, 10:43:00 PM »
Quote from: fyliu on May 25, 2014, 07:06:35 PM
Split the crown down the center into 4 quarter pieces? Or split it the other way, taking out the center growth?

Down the center. The middle part is what needs to be under soil. But some of the top of the middle part can be exposed to the air which is where the new pups will grow

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can I harvest pineapple pups before the pineapple has ripened?
« on: May 25, 2014, 03:26:00 PM »
Here's a trick that I learned from Frankie.. From both the crown, a fully developed slip or sucker you can divide it into 3-4 pieces (using a paper cutter seems to work great). You section them so the inside of the crown or slip is exposed and that is planted directly facing down into your potting media. From there 3-6 new pups should grow. theoretically from one crown you can get up to 24 pups. That's how to maximize your pineapple  production :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Some Fruits I Just Picked
« on: May 23, 2014, 03:23:00 AM »
Fairchild notes in the world was my garden that he found mangosteen difficult to open. I can't say that I do.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Some Fruits I Just Picked
« on: May 22, 2014, 12:56:05 PM »
Theobroma bicolor has a nice texture , almost like a durian, but the taste throws me off. It doesn't taste like cempedek but like a non sweet yogurt or something

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First taste of mangosteen
« on: May 21, 2014, 05:26:41 PM »
They are good but they aren't nearly as satisfying or filling as a durian or cempedek.

Seedless would be nice. Most of the ones I've had have seeds in them

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Who has fruiting Marang ?
« on: May 18, 2014, 09:44:12 PM »
Six meters is already pretty tall. If its a good variety i think it should be fruiting already. I know of a tree that was maybe 5 meters tall loaded with fruit.. I would probably top the tree if you haven't already. I've seen many marang fruits that rot because they are too high up to harvest.. I'd like to see how they harvest in the Philippines..  Since they don't fruit near or on the trunk it's not exactly an easy fruit to harvest.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How old were you when you planted your first fruit?
« on: May 17, 2014, 12:33:35 PM »
Quote from: micah on May 17, 2014, 11:45:39 AM
From young kid times we were forced into the taro patch,  never by choice. Slave labor. In this remote valley.. the only reachable fruits were guavas, we lived off of them, starving all day, until we would drive home. When I was around 14 my older brother forced me to plant a naval orange tree.  Do it or the beatings would go down!  Well I cried/complained planting it.  Years later when it finally fruited... When tasting fruit I finally realized how awesome planting is. Around this time I started planting/smoking Ganja..when cotton mouth sets in...it's time to eat fruit.  This truly opened my eyes(maybe third eye) to what i feel we humans should be doing.. care for nature..cause we are nature.
 we have over 150 edibles and still growing.   Now my kids run around all day searching for the next harvest.

Lol we gotta hang out sometime. Jeff the micro plant guy on north shore Oahu had mentioned you before ... Aloha

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How will Durian do in my climate?
« on: May 17, 2014, 12:22:12 PM »
So who gets them to fruit consistently ?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How will Durian do in my climate?
« on: May 17, 2014, 12:16:59 PM »
Are you speakin from personal experience? you have fruiting durians every year that fruit fine? And Not true about finding durians at market.. There was hardly any durian found at Hilo market the last 2+ years 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Comparison of Red Jackfruits
« on: May 17, 2014, 12:12:44 PM »
Quote from: bsbullie on May 16, 2014, 04:48:37 PM
This is a 24 pound fruit from a red morning seedling.   Cleaned was 8.5 - 9 pounds of edible flesh.  Ta ste was outstanding and reiterates why I say that a good red fleshed jackfruit is better than a yellow fleshed.



Wow look amazing! Thanks for sharing

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How will Durian do in my climate?
« on: May 14, 2014, 02:02:01 PM »
Quote from: DurianisaDrug on May 14, 2014, 01:26:07 PM
This year in ecuador at a much lower elevation had we a very weak harvest. I think it was from too much rain.. kona sure isnt durian haven though hilo is much more so imo.. papaya farms road etc

The trees grow well and get big in Puna but they don't fruit consistently. It's also wet there a lot so they might no sweeten like they should. Kona definitely isn't ideal for durian but with irrigation, wind protection etc they will grow. I think one of the sweetest durians I've had was from kona side and it was off season around summer time..

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How will Durian do in my climate?
« on: May 14, 2014, 12:46:47 PM »
Quote from: fruitlovers on May 14, 2014, 04:30:43 AM
Quote from: ben mango on May 13, 2014, 12:25:40 PM
Quote from: fruitlovers on May 12, 2014, 02:41:47 AM
Durians like consistent rainfall and hate drought. They only need a couple of weeks of no rain for good flower set. We have rain evenly spread through year and they fruit fine. I like Peter's suggestion of planting on a slope, but mostly to avoid root rot disease, to which they are very susceptible. Make sure they are planted in soil with very good drainage, not heavy clay.

Sorry but I wouldn't say durian fruits fine in hawaii. It fruits inconsistently. Sure, this is a good year for durian but I know someone on hamakua coast who had not had a crop in 3 years. I'm sure he wouldn't say "they fruit fine" and this goes for graveolens etc

Are you speaking from personal experience? i don't think so. Maybe your acquaintance just forgot to fertilize them for 3 years? There are many reason a plant may not fruit, besides climate.

Ask some of the bigggest durian collectors/ growers on the islands , John mood on the hamakua coast, ken love in kona, or Frankie in waimanalo if their durians fruit consistently and their answer will be no. Frankie hasn't seen a decent durian crop in 4 years. Maybe he's not fertilizing but I think it has more to do with climate. Here in hawaii until this past season we had not seen a decent durian crop in 3 years... Definitely doesn't " fruit fine "

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Keledang Ever!!!
« on: May 14, 2014, 12:40:00 PM »
Awesome. They look delicious inside...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How will Durian do in my climate?
« on: May 13, 2014, 12:25:40 PM »
Quote from: fruitlovers on May 12, 2014, 02:41:47 AM
Durians like consistent rainfall and hate drought. They only need a couple of weeks of no rain for good flower set. We have rain evenly spread through year and they fruit fine. I like Peter's suggestion of planting on a slope, but mostly to avoid root rot disease, to which they are very susceptible. Make sure they are planted in soil with very good drainage, not heavy clay.

Sorry but I wouldn't say durian fruits fine in hawaii. It fruits inconsistently. Sure, this is a good year for durian but I know someone on hamakua coast who had not had a crop in 3 years. I'm sure he wouldn't say "they fruit fine" and this goes for graveolens etc

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Comparison of Red Jackfruits
« on: May 07, 2014, 07:29:40 PM »
I'm curious what they sell the fruit for too...

Quote from: luc on March 25, 2013, 11:39:00 AM
Are these RED really RED or just a darker orange ?

I am getting some red and latexless ones from India ....Oscar did you see / taste any of these when you were there ?

Ya where are the pics?  I've never seen a truly red jackfruit or chempedok. Orange to a more bright or dark orange but not red like a pomegranate ...

Quote from: Finca La Isla on March 25, 2013, 10:24:50 PM
I had a conversation with Richard Wilson last May about Jak fruit and he said that anyone looking for quality jakfruit in India was wasting their time.  Vietnam was the place for jak.  Could the Excalibur red be from there?
Peter

Some good malaysian and thai varieties have been introduced with success in hawaii. Regarding India, this is particularly true for Hawaiian growers from what I understand any cultivars from India don't produce good fruits here, the environment is so different .. Vietnam probably has many crunchy varieties , it seems Vietnamese much prefer crunchy types..yet I've seen they also like chempedok. I wonder if chempedok is at all found in Vietnam..I would think so

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Castleberry Jackfruit?
« on: May 07, 2014, 01:04:37 PM »
Anyone have scion available of Excalibur red or any of the other good red varieties?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to graft a new variety on avocado
« on: May 05, 2014, 12:45:19 PM »
If you wait until later try bark grafting.. I've seen it be rather successful for avocado and jackfruit ..

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ice Cream Bean
« on: May 05, 2014, 12:40:54 PM »
Seems like a better tree just to cut back and have mulch. The fruits are pretty much tasteless

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit care
« on: May 04, 2014, 11:12:11 PM »
That tree looks pretty healthy from what I can see, if its growing and the new growth looks fine I wouldn't worry so much...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jack x Chempedak ' Cheena '
« on: May 04, 2014, 11:09:27 PM »
I will have red fleshed chempedak seeds in the next few weeks if anyone is interested in a possible trade or something send me a pm

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black sapote not sweet in Hawaii..
« on: May 04, 2014, 01:39:09 AM »
Quote from: Mike T on May 03, 2014, 10:05:55 AM
Dragon fruit as well maybe there really is a big island curse.

Do you have anything worth posting or just make more bad jokes ?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black sapote not sweet in Hawaii..
« on: May 04, 2014, 01:33:47 AM »
Quote from: fruitlovers on May 03, 2014, 05:00:28 PM
Quote from: ben mango on May 03, 2014, 09:02:37 AM
We have sweet fruit... Also dragon fruit are another example of a fruit that doesn't sweeten that well here. At least the big red ones white or red fleshed. They taste like water... In Thailand they can be hyper sweet. I never said black sapote taste like persimmon. I said I heard They can be sweet like a ripe persimmon.

Dragon fruit in Thailand is notorious for being super bland. Again it has to do with cultivar chosen, not with the fruit itself. But a lot of people complain that dragon fruit is tasteless. (Read many past threads on this forum about dragon fruit.) And they come from many different countries. Same is true with marang, or practically any fruit. If you have a bad selection, and Ken Love obviously does, then it's not going to be the best tasting.
Right now i'm eating loss of mangosteens from my trees which are super sweet. Never really fully appreciated this fruit until now. The ones i had in Thailand were a lot less tasty. I think this has to do with depleted soils there and use of chemical fertilizers.

No Ken doesn't have a bad selection and he's tasted ones from different growers. And as he stated they don't sweeten here as they do in the davao area.

Would be nice if some people from Mexico chimed in instead of someone who thinks they Know everything there is about about a fruit. Is it possible that black sapote can become hyper sweet like a nice ripe persimmon? I think so as this is what ive been told. Don't doubt it until you see it ...

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