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I was asking for soil amendment advice from two different sources, not specifically to compare the labs but to get a second opinion on fertilizers, so it just happened. 1/2 of the 3 acre plot has been fallow, the other 1/2 was a lay-down yard for 20-50 gallon potted trees for several years at Treehouse nursery, and may have received runoff from them irrigating the pots, but that was 2 years in the past. I didn't expect such differences in results, and didn't keep another aliquot of the original sample, just threw it back on the ground. I could take a similar sample, but expect I might only get a third different result.

Aluminum shouldn't be a problem at my ph, both labs agreed on that.
One acre of young trees I'll probably use some sul-po-mag, gypsum, plenty of compost and mulch, and various foliar feedings. I'll be on the lookout for deficiencies, chlorosis, etc..
1-1/2 acres of the property will be in velvet bean cover crop through the summer to build it up and smother weeds. I may try the same experiment next year with different labs to keep myself confused 

Yes, both samples were taken from two locations on the 3 acres, then mixed thoroughly in the same plastic bucket, then that same mixture was divided into 2 identical samples and sent to two different labs. Both labs use Mehlich 3 procedure for analysis. Lab 1 is Logan Labs Lab 2 is Spectrum Analytic.

In most cases there is a minimum ph range of 2.3-3.3 needed to get a good gel 'set' and retard spoilage in jams/marmalades, etc.

Years ago I had a small tropical fruit cannery making value-added products for the tourist trade.

Several Loquat jam recipes versions here, including the seed liqueur.
A marmalade generally has whole bits of fruit versus a jam which is a finer consistency of pulp.
You can modify a jam recipe towards marmalade by substituting chunks of seeded fruit for part of the sieved pulp.
http://www.eattheweeds.com/loquat-getting-a-grip-on-grappa/

This is probably not an issue in FL but this would be worth checking in some areas -- the soil along the Hamakua coast of HI is a weird clay.  At a recent meeting of East HI Cacao Assoc. it was reported that auger type post hole diggers (3 pt hitch / bobcat type) cause compaction of the soil.  The end result is as if you planted the trees in a clay pot.  It surprised the heck out of me but it was based upon some commercial plantings, not just speculation.

I will guarantee this to be correct. I thought the auger would be perfect, don't do it. All of the 100 bare root Black Walnuts in clay soil were totally root bound in clay pots from the auger smearing. The ones done by hand thrived.

Maybe you could also plant a windbreak between your place and his. He might not get educated, but a green wall might protect your place.

Sorry But...Unfortunately they appear to be the same... I am compelled to post so others do not accidentally plant INVASIVE SPECIES... i will be happy to remove this post if you prove me wrong or choose to delete your post so people do not accidentally plant INVASIVE SPECIES for a wind break in South Florida.

University of Florida has been promoting this hard working immigrant for citrus windbreaks for several years
http://www.crec.ifas.ufl.edu/extension/greening/PDF/establishing_windbreaks_story.pdf

I use a Dymo Rhino 1011, which embosses letters onto stainless steel or aluminum tapes.

Nice industrial tool. Maybe slip the plastic pipe over a rebar for sturdiness. Everyone wants this for Christmas! I've been helping a new owner of a property which has several 100 trees some fairly uncommon and almost all are unlabeled with no records. This could have been avoided.
http://www.labelcity.com/DYMO-M1011-METAL-TAPE-EMBOSSER.html?gclid=CjwKEAjwh9PGBRCfso2n3ODgvUcSJAAhpW5ob6RmgeFQk_zMMKf2ZnAQJbGHy7mIXkbO5UudDPRQwBoCsPnw_wcB

Cambuca'

Sorry the trunk picture wasn't good. Comparing to Oscar's photos of leaf and trunk, Har is correct, Cambuca - Plinia edulis
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=411.0

Thanks!

Quote from: pineislander on March 16, 2017, 09:37:48 PM

My northern border will be 350 ft of sweet edible shoot bamboo, 3-4" diameter x 30-40 ft tall,

You must be planning on selling fresh bamboo shoots. They seem to have good shelf life. I see them sold in bulk in Chinese supermarkets. Submerged in water in 5 gallon plastic buckets. Where did you buy them? I should plant a few.

I was going to plant a windbreak along the border anyways, and was offered cuttings. First I have to clear a 350 ft treeline full of Brazil Pepper and Earleaf acacia, and then plant cuttings in situ under drip irrigation this summer. I'm told there is a market, and why not grow something which can be harvested as a dual purpose planting? Hopefully I will see how it goes. If the propagation is successful, in a few years I'll be able to sell shoots/plants/cuttings.

Wow - at about a minute 40 seconds in there's a tree that's full of fruit already.  Do you know the variety on that one?

A Thai variety of 'green mango', very early and very sour now which is just what they want. I'm advised to sell it that way because the variety gets large but is quite susceptible to anthracnose later. Can't recall the name, and have a lot of sorting out to do on the varieties here.

Curious to know the tree x row spacing?  Looks nice

Spacing is 14 ft in row and 23 ft between rows. They are bedded about 18" high for drainage.
Planted in 2013, but may have been from 25 gal or more nursery stock.