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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« on: May 12, 2023, 12:45:25 PM »
I got my first 2 flowers on my black Surinam cherry in 2018 as a small seedling from 9waters. The tree is only about 1 foot tall and was holding a fruit but it got knocked off while moving outside :(. The leaves have no resinous smell which is a good sign. Hopefully it flowers again soon

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I have noticed my acerola puts out gobs of flowers and fruit during the winter and early spring, and then during the drier end of summer. It seems like a little stress helps get it to fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherry of Rio grande no fruits
« on: May 03, 2023, 12:29:50 PM »
Eugenia fruit set can be finicky in general. It can really help to have as many cross pollinating trees as possible.

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They look like aphids. When I use organic horticultural soap, it takes them out in one spray. Neem and castile soap would work well too.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Transitioning indoor trees outside
« on: May 03, 2023, 12:24:33 PM »
Its so frustrating living in a colder climate, moving all your trees out, and then a freak snow storm coming out of nowhere. It is probably best to wait till it is consistent and put them in full shade, slowly moving them to a sunnier spot. My peanutbutter fruit defoliated but has new growth, so I will be doing it right this time lol.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Transitioning indoor trees outside
« on: April 19, 2023, 01:23:04 PM »
Just my experience, in Idaho, and others may have different ideas.

Personally, I wouldn't put them out until the outside low equals about 10-15 degrees lower than your inside temps.

Then full shade for a while. Indoors, even with lights, the light level is way lower than outdoor shade. Only let them have early morning or late afternoon sun for at least a couple of weeks.  Trees respond to light changes much more slowly than veggies. Unless by "indoors" you mean a greenhouse, then you can subject them to more light faster.

I used to bring mine in and out of the greenhouse, but twice a year shock was just too hard on most things, other than figs, which are indestructible.


Good luck!
Carolyn

Thanks. I think I will wait then till the temperatures are consistent and find a shady spot for them.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Transitioning indoor trees outside
« on: April 19, 2023, 12:59:53 PM »
Hey everybody. I am looking to move my trees outdoors and get them acclimated to the outside, but I am unsure how cold many of them can handle. I read a lot of articles about how they can handle frosts, but I obviously don't want to stress them out. What is a minimum nighttime temperature for things like acerola, eugenias and plinia that will acclimate them without stressing them too much?

Our forecast calls for around 50 as a low at night and then 30 this weekend. 

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Thats awesome. Looking forward to seeing how the other ones turn out. I think it would be interesting to see how other Eugenias may cross as well. Eugenias have a lot of potential. Let us now when you have seeds!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Variegated Grumichama?
« on: December 21, 2022, 09:46:32 AM »
Definitely hold on to it. Quarantine and wait. If itís mosaic virus it will kill it, but if it states healthy itís variegation. The fact that it sprouted like that makes me think variation, as mosiac virus will change the plant from solid leaves to ďvariegatedĒ looking leaves.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« on: December 21, 2022, 09:40:27 AM »
Does the aroma of the crushed leaves indicate the resin flavor intensity? I had 2 pitangas with one that had very resinous smelling leaves and the other with no leaf smell. The resinous leaf died, and I still have the non-resinous smelling one. Neither fruited, though I am expecting fruit from the one I have this year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical Fruit Forum Grower Database
« on: October 28, 2022, 11:24:33 PM »
I am wondering, if we write a plant down at one point, and it starts fruiting, would it make sense to do another submission for that plant?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical Fruit Forum Grower Database
« on: October 28, 2022, 11:23:33 PM »
I am wondering, if we write a plant down at one point, and it starts fruiting, would it make sense to do another submission for that plant?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Papaya leaf curl virus?
« on: October 28, 2022, 08:52:00 AM »
The papaya I grew was also a Hawaiian variety, and being in northern Indiana, it makes me think that it was infected as a seed. Not too sure tho.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Papaya leaf curl virus?
« on: October 28, 2022, 08:44:31 AM »
I had a papaya tree that did that. I had to kill it and throw away the pot. I didnít want to risk it. It was transferred to other plants through whitefly, although it seemed like one of my plants recovered by using an aspirin solution (2 tablets for 1 gallon of water). I believe it is mosaic virus, and I am not sure if it got the disease or if it was grown from a mother plant that had the disease. I would isolate it and try treatment.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical Fruit Forum Grower Database
« on: October 28, 2022, 08:32:37 AM »
This would be awesome. I have filled out a few already.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba: is this normal?
« on: October 23, 2022, 10:02:01 PM »
It may be from the water I used for a while. I didnít realize the creek water I was using was a pH of 10! But it didnít start acting like this till a month.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Citrus/Tropical greenhouse zone7b
« on: October 22, 2022, 07:32:41 PM »
Thatís awesome! Iím in 5b, I would love to do something like that once I have the time. What is your main way of preserving heat?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Jaboticaba: is this normal?
« on: October 22, 2022, 07:30:46 PM »
I just brought in my sabara inside for the winter a few months ago and it has never dropped leaves like this before. I had sprayed it with neem a few months ago but it is starting to drop leaves now. Will it come back?



It gets some sunlight and it isnít watered heavily because it is inside

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse vanilla growing
« on: October 21, 2022, 08:35:44 PM »
Vanilla wants some shade but dark shade is not ideal. Living fence posts pruned to manage light shade in a relatively moist tropical climate is best. Vanilla is native where I live. It occurs as an understory epiphyte. If it is too dark development is slow. Too much sun will make the leaves pale with burn spots that introduce fungus like anthrachnose.
Peter

Good to know. Iíll probably set up some kind of wooden post for it to grow up in a little brighter of a spot. It is a frosted plastic sheeting so I believe it helps soften the light anyways.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing passion fruit up a tree
« on: October 21, 2022, 02:23:43 PM »
Iíll probably take it off the tree stem then. I have noticed it doesnít mind itís tendrils getting removed.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Greenhouse vanilla growing
« on: October 20, 2022, 06:36:56 PM »
Does it like more shade or would it prefer a brighter location? It gets very little light right now but seems to be doing ok.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Growing passion fruit up a tree
« on: October 20, 2022, 06:35:00 PM »
I am growing passion fruit in a container and it is inside for this winter. It has started clinging to a small tree I have nearby. Would it be ok to let it grow or could it be harmful to the tree?

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I recently germinated giant mulchi seeds. I like to use a paper towel and change it every so often so I can see the progress of the seed. 5 out of 6 germinated (one was rotted). Once my seeds germinate I immediately put them in clean soil. All of them came up but then I moved them outside and they rotted back so I put them under grow lights with a humidity cover and 4 of the 5 came back. For my others seeds I like to just put them in dirt, itís easy and cheap. I have found itís better to germinate indoors with more temperature control.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Greenhouse vanilla growing
« on: October 08, 2022, 09:59:47 AM »
There is a vanilla orchid growing at my colleges greenhouse. We are looking to trellis it on something, but there arenít a lot of options. Would a wood or metal trellis work better or an actual tree?

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