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also have several rooted muscadine varieties i could trade.

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Looking for scions of sunset loquat & Asian variety Persimmons.

Near Pensacola.

Would love to trade:
Have: Tam kam persimmon, Fuyu persimmon, Brogden Avacado, Lila Avacado. and I have one smaller peluche loquat limb i could sacrifice to trade.

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I too ordered one back in March 2021... 

I'm fairly local, so I started contacting Adam in Spring 2022... After trying to get ahold of him a couple of times, he finally got back to me. I asked him if my tree was ready and if I could come to pick it up. He said yes and agreed. I drove to his new location in AL the next day. I arrive and he was super nice and shared all the perils he's had with his business (hurricane/property/rental/location/employee issues), which is unfortunate. But it looked like he was getting his feet on the ground and all set up at the new location.

I was able to retrieve the tree... but it was pretty obvious most, if not all, of the grafts had been done the day before (nothing had flushed out, grafting tape was pristine, labels were brand new, etc).  A tree I had ordered over a year ago at that point had just been grafted.  I'm not sure if he lost some of the original trees in storms or power-loss events... but that isn't encouraging for the rest of ya'll.

Only 2 of maybe a dozen grafts ended up taking. I contacted him about the failed graphs and he said that ,under his guarantee, he would come and re-graft since I was local. I told him, I'm here anytime...  That was months ago, I'm not holding my breath because at least I got a tree.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Paw paw seeds
« on: September 20, 2022, 09:42:59 AM »
"Here’s info on how to germinate paw paw"
where is the info? Do you have to vernalize them?
my first attempt failed - I vernalized them.

Where are you located? I've really been on the lookout for some seedlings, but may have to try germinating again...


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fuerte Graft
« on: June 30, 2022, 10:44:41 PM »
im not an expert but yea, i think you have to do something to initiate growth. right now the hass is still the apex stem... not sure if you should bend/break the hass portion or cut it off completely though. do pull any hass suckers off once the fuerte does pop though (they can even come up out of the soil)!

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Variegated sparkleberry
« on: May 25, 2022, 01:05:26 PM »
very cool. I've got a sparkleberry growing on the lot next to me that is over 20ft tall.  It's a tree!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: SHOW OFF:WAX MYRTLE
« on: February 01, 2022, 01:35:11 PM »
these grow like weeds around me (pensacola area). all over the untamed lots in my neighborhood.  i just transplanted several to a property line on a lot i purchased - I hope they survive. should make a nice natural fence if they do.

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Hi saltwater, my issue is that it is still too early to graft here in N. FL. temps are too cold.
he says his trees are starting to pop already.

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i've got brogden. two small trees - one is actually flowering right now. not a ton of extra limbs at the moment, but may be able to spare a cutting or so. i'm over in pensacola. I'm on the lookout for mexicola grande and other mexican/mexican hybrids.

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the fact that there was a group in Oregon trying to also do it give me hope that it may be possible.

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so no one has tried some backyard grafting of v. arboreum?

I may have to give it a try myself...

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I stumbled upon a HUGE blueberry "tree" on the lot next to my property. Apparently, it's a Vaccinium arboreum. There are many wild-growing bushes all over the wooded areas in my area mostly 4 ft to 7 ft tall. This one is the largest at over 20ft. The berries have blueberry flavor but are mostly skin and seed (so not worth picking).

Anyone have experience growing these? Or grafting them? I found some info saying OSU was trying to use them as rootstock for commercial varieties.

I'm in N. Florida (panhandle).

Vaccinium arboreum
https://gardeningsolutions.ifas.ufl.edu/plants/trees-and-shrubs/trees/sparkleberry.html

grafting reference
https://www.growingproduce.com/fruits/new-blueberry-growing-system-could-help-improve-efficiency/









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Yes, the second photo is trifoliata (Rootstock).

yes, the punchline is that my brother-in-law cut the orange tree down... allowing the rootstock to completely take over.

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so my brother in-law trimmed the lower portion of his citrus trees a few years ago. He has a young boy and didn't want low-hanging branches with spines... He asked me why they weren't producing oranges anymore. I took a closer look for the first time.

 :o

They are now like 15 ft tall (2 trees). How do I break it to him?  Should I propose cutting the tops off and re-grafting higher up? Maybe chest height (?)



you can see the trimmed trunk in the middle... I think that was an important trunk.  :-\  He did this to both trees. My guess is the rootstock suckers was already taller than the orange tree when he went to trim it.





the foliage of the remaining trunks.

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Citrus General Discussion / which nutrient deficiency (photo)
« on: September 16, 2021, 10:07:45 AM »
Does anyone else have trouble meeting your citrus' trees demand for nutrients? Mine are mostly 1-2 year old nursery stock (navel, hamlin, satsumas, lemons - some still in pots some in the ground) and I'm using citrus fertilizer (as instructed on the bag) but various trees (some not all) are still showing various deficiencies. I'm in 9a FL btw.

here is a navel orange leaf. I'm trying to figure out what it needs. Iron or Manganese? It is on new leaves not old. Newer growth is an even lighter color. Best way to apply the needed nutrients? Apparently, the regular citrus fertilizer I've applied hasn't been enough.





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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Mexicola avocado cuttings
« on: April 23, 2021, 11:46:31 AM »
I am thinking you may not have had the right scion grafted to your Mexicola.

That is exactly the opposite experience we've had with ours.  Mexicola is one of my favorite avocados by far.

I find it difficult to eat some other varieties due to how good they are.  Mexicola Grande is also quite good--like Spaugh said, though, it is a monster of a tree and needs space to stretch its legs.

How old is your Mexicola?
Do you have experience with other Avocados in your climate? which ones would you recommend besides Mexicola in your climate?

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i second sweet potato greens. they grow really well in hot humid FL.

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It is in the ground and not producing... but it is starting to lose the yellow leaves. Just leave it? When is it safe to first fertilize this spring?

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The deficiency is a nitrogen deficiency..  The symptoms for a nitrogen deficiency in citrus are:  Totally yellow leaves with no variation of color, or yellow/orange veins with some green to the sides.  Note: 1 inch of irrigation either from rain or hose can leach nitrogen 1 to 2 feet down in sandy soil.  A combination of low nitrogen and cool weather could also be involved.

thanks for the insight! Do you recommend fertilizing during winter right now? If so, how much would be safe?

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I have a few citrus trees in the yard I planned this spring. Several have leaves turning yellow.
One is a blood orange (pictured below)... the photo is a couple of weeks ago - now some of the leaves on the top of the plant are dropping. The yellowing started occurring as it got cooler out (Nov i think is when i noticed it).  I'm thinking it is a nutrient issue... but i'm afraid to fertilize in winter. I stopped fertilizing in Sept/Early Oct. There are also two mandarines that are showing signs similar, but not as bad. A 4th tree ( Hamlin orange) doesn't really show symptoms like this. We do get strong north winds as I'm near a bay on the gulf but haven't really dipped below freezing this year (yet). I have not tested soil (haven't had soil issues with any plants/trees), but the trees performed great during the summer with regular citrus-specific fertalizer.




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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus ID from flower bud (?)
« on: October 07, 2020, 06:14:49 PM »
thanks. that's what i was thinking too. i'll report back.

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Citrus General Discussion / Citrus ID from flower bud (?)
« on: October 07, 2020, 05:27:01 PM »
I have an unidentifed citrus tree i aquired in a container... saved from my neighbor's trash. Neighbor knows nothing about it. No info about it except what I can observe.

I pruned it because it was massively lopsided and needs reshaping. It exploded with flowers.

Can anyone give me a clue of what this might be based on the flowers?  Some of the flowers have light purple on them. Most are just white. They are all white when opened.

Even in the relm of lemon, orange, grapefruit would help.  It is 3 ft (tall) x 4ft (wide) has a few small (1cm) spines.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lula Avocado
« on: October 06, 2020, 09:17:51 PM »
How cold tolerant is the lula variety? I'm in N. FL. I picked up a small lula in spring and it put on a lot of growth. Alas, it was washed away by Hurricane Sally. Would like to find a replacement if it can handle below freezing temps.

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